Wanna know why me roger is so jolly?

I Mayne Support··1 votes·540 views

Because you've failed multiple times to learn from Activision-Blizzard's modern mistakes as a game developer:

NEW & IMPROVED = WE'RE GONNA RUIN EVERYTHING AND ACT LIKE WE DID A GREAT JOB.

(Otherwise known as the, "We really like the direction we're moving in," cop out, despite the ~6,500,000 subscribers who told us it was awful and quit.)

For example, let's start off by reviewing Gangplank: What was wrong with Gangplank that determined he needed a new kit and voice overs? Was he not being played enough to your standards? Did not enough people understand how to play him? And to that end, is he now being played more or less since being redesigned?

The point here is that you took the primary aspects that people loved about Gangplank and neutered them. Gangplank was cheated out of an amazing team buff and left with a mostly unreliable ability that gives the enemy team gold every ten seconds. The new voice overs are disappointing compared to the originals and are devoid of personality. Adding customized upgrades to the way his ult works was a good idea, but why the fuck are cannonballs being calculated as magic damage on a physical scaling champ?

That doesn't make any damn sense, and I shouldn't have to be the one to tell you that.

But wait, there's more!

**Next, we have Taric: ** There was perfect harmony in the ways that healer supports worked before the Taric redesign. For the most part, each had their own form of heal-bomb and a CC. Whichever one worked better in different situations was up to the player to decide. Taric's specialty was single target healing and control, and once again, an excellent team buff that would ultimately end up being neutered. His new kit is so bad, so absolutely awful, that I can't help but feel the only thing Taric's redesign was successful at was completely driving away the player base that actually played Taric. Not to mention, once again, new voice overs that completely ruined what people that played Taric enjoyed spamming the entire game.

So kudos, once again, for killing a champ's personality because people were having _ too much fun_.

**But it doesn't stop there! ** (I won't even comment on Galio because that's just an awful experience either way.)

Now, and with great dishonor to the unicorn R7 Crabgot mains, you feel the need to fix another aspect of the game that isn't broken.

So, let me be the first to tell you how that's going to play out:

Do you want to upgrade his character models? - That's fine, it's a bit dated and it shows. Do you want to redesign Crabgot because of the appearance? - Don't, and say you didn't. The redesign looks like garbage, but not in a good way. Do you want to change his kit because people can't do math above a fourth grade level? - That seems like a community problem, not an Urgot issue.

This redesign is an insult to your Urgot players and people that own Crabgot.

So, here's what's gonna happen: You hype up some twelve year olds by getting a couple of pro players to pull Urgot out after the redesign. You get your commentators to talk incessantly about how great the Urgot redesign is to encourage more players to want to pick him. Urgot's pick rate/ban rate spikes around forty times higher from the time of this post for about a month. The type of players you attract to the redesigned Urgot are your BV Yasuo mains (that somehow manage to feed every game in ranked, but will never get banned for it) and people that have conversations with themselves in all chat for the majority of their games.

After that first month, unless Urgot magically jumps from 30-60% win rates to a straight >70% solid, interest in playing him will once again fall off the map. Except you'll have replaced the experienced Urgot players who enjoy the champion for what it is with inexperienced players that want to try playing him in ranked because_ they saw someone else doing it_. I'd go as far to say we can all look forward to the "new & improved" Urgot launch to be similar to Jayce month.

**Do you remember Jayce month? ** It was a solid month where ranked queues were absolutely destroyed because no one knew what they were doing, but everyone wanted to do it. (Kind of like Bronze/Silver Yasuo mains, except at some point people eventually stopped being a malignant cancer with it in ranked.)

So, if your intention is to piss off everyone in ranked for a month or two; Great job! I'm sure there's going to be plenty of bans going around for overt racism and homophobia after the relaunch. Intentionally feeding? Not so much, I'd wager.

One last thing: Break Garen's taunt animation cycles again. Letting people mute pings is the worst idea you've ever implemented into this game.

Specifically, in ranked, the ability to mute pings should not exist. A better solution would be to revert the ability to mute pings by adding a volume slider specifically for pings that would never be able to fully mute them.

I'd go as far as saying you should increase the limit to the number of pings a player is able to make before they get auto-filtered, and reduce the duration of the filter by half for ranked games. If you want to let the kids playing normal games and ARAM mute pings, go ahead. That is not a feature that should ever exist for ranked play. If anything the volume and size of pings should increase with the frequency of pings in ranked. I don't care who gets butt hurt for being pinged to death for playing like they're blind, that's what volume controls are for. If they want to sit in silence because four people are pinging them to stop doing something, that's their problem. Don't make it a problem for everyone else.

Don't fix things that aren't broken. Learn from Activision-Blizzard's mistakes.

6 Comments

Candurill3 votes

The salt is strong in this one...

Anyway, let me point out a few things here. Now I can't speak for Gangplank players, since I don't play him, nor did I ever play him before his rework. But the current Gangplank is a MONSTER when played right and I feel they did a great job reworking his visual and audial theme...

I also dislike how you talk about your fellow players...Just because someone dies a lot, does not mean they should be banned. That they die is simply because they got paired against stronger opponents. Now if people feed intentionally (which I just can't get my mind around why anyone would ever do that in ranked) then yes maybe they deserve a ban, but not everyone who dies a lot is a "feeder".

That said, I CAN say something for the Taric players, since I am a Taric main myself and have been since back before he was reworked. I loved Taric for the character he was and for his place in battle, but he was outdated, both his kit and his visuals. Even I (as a new player to league back when I picked him up for the first time) could see that. With his rework, I feel like his theme and persona only got beter!! It didn't change, he is still the fabulous battle healer he had been, just with more sparkles and awesome voice overs!!! His kit didn't change too much either and left him in the exact same place where he had been for me, just with a more interesting and rewarding kit!! So do not go on jabbing that we aren't happy with his rework!! I loved him back then and I still love him now!! Succesfuly using the new ult, fills me with just as much joy as using his old ult did, only now you actually have to time it right.

As for Urgot, He was NEVER played...I never saw him in game and the only time I did see him was when one of my friends felt like a trol game. That is because his kit and his model were outdated...lets be real, nobody wanted to walk around the rift with the sack of rotten potatoes that he was. His new model looks totally badass and really made me think of trying him some time, not because I saw other people play him, but because I now think he's an interesting champion. Also: what is your problem with the Crabgot skin anyway? It looks WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better then that thing it was before...

Anyway, I like your enthusiasm for rarely played champions, I really do, but I also believe that Riot is just trying to keep their game going...they are still a business in an ever fluctuating industry...interests change, the playerbase changes and thus the game must change with it.

I Mayne Support1 votes

So, does Riot/Tencent pay you to post damage control around their forums or do you just feel the inexplicable need to ride their dick?

This is more feedback for Riot devs than an open discussion for Johnny Givesafuck. **If I wanted to read uneducated opinions, I would be reading Yahoo! news articles. If I wanted to shitpost uneducated opinions, I would be writing Yahoo! news articles. **

You're right about one thing, though: Riot is an entertainment business, and like most professional sports entertainment businesses: Everything's colluded, fixed, and rigged from the ground up.

SEKAI3 votes

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So, does Riot/Tencent pay you to post damage control around their forums or do you just feel the inexplicable need to ride their dick?

Now look dude... I didn't read the OP, so I won't comment on it. What I will be commenting on is this line I've quoted.

Because someone comes in to refute your point, it doesn't mean you can just accuse them of being a "damage controller", "dick rider" or whatever label you decide to put the ring on. That's not cool.

Candurill1 votes

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Hell I wish they'd pay me...but no...sadly they don't. Not even with dick. ;P

Anyway, If you want riot to hear you, doing so in a salt filled rage fest on the boards is NOT the way to get your point across XD Especially this board (the Concepts and creations board) since it is a discussion board....hell, when you created this..."thing"... you even had to click on a button with in big letters "Create discussion" written on it... But you still refute my comment, not even willing to take it seriously, by saying that "you didn't want this to be a discussion"... -Initiates slow clap-

Still, I stand by my point. I find the reworks just fine. It keeps the game fresh and modern. You must admit that compared to the old Urgot, the new Urgot looks and feels newer. And even if you don't; no matter how much you like a good pair of jeans, eventually you will have to buy a new one...cus they become ugly and old-fashioned... :)

PixelPicksTW3 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Mayne Support,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=sfbdxBrL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-17T18:11:46.595+0000)

So, does Riot/Tencent pay you to post damage control around their forums or do you just feel the inexplicable need to ride their dick?

This is more feedback for Riot devs than an open discussion for Johnny Givesafuck. **If I wanted to read uneducated opinions, I would be reading Yahoo! news articles. If I wanted to shitpost uneducated opinions, I would be writing Yahoo! news articles. **

You're right about one thing, though: Riot is an entertainment business, and like most professional sports entertainment businesses: Everything's colluded, fixed, and rigged from the ground up.

Literally almost everything in your OP was incorrect. Gangplank has a very decent play-rate right now (not the highest, but more than most other champs in toplane). They reworked him because his kit was becoming obsolete (his ult was random hits in a circle, like poro king but less effective as high mobility characters could just dodge it). A majority of people were actually incredibly happy with the rework.

Onto Taric. His kit was not perfectly balanced. Riot was stuck at a point where the point-and-click stun duration was either too strong in lane or useless in the late game, and the heal was a single-target heal for what was supposed to be a tank support. Personality killed in the rework? I would argue to say that the reworked Taric was very well done in certain aspects of the personality (they harbored his sassiness while maintaining a seriousness given by his role in Targon).

As for Urgot, you appear to be under the impression that Riot reworked him because, and I quote, "because people can't do math above a fourth grade level". This is not the case at all. Rather, it is because Urgot is THE least played champion in League of Legends, and Riot believes it is because his kit is boring and only useful in certain situations. Because of this, Riot is reworking Urgot not because he is too difficult, but because he is too niche.

Now, this is not me riding Riot's dick, as you so educatedly put it. Riot has made many poor decisions in the past, and will continue to do so because it is made up of human beings. However, while you are worried about who's dick someone else is riding, perhaps you should take a minute to read your own article and marvel at how you can see anything with your head so far up your own ass.

Candurill2 votes

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"However, while you are worried about who's dick someone else is riding, perhaps you should take a minute to read your own article and marvel at how you can see anything with your head so far up your own ass."

Love this, thanks bro XD couldn't have said it better myself!!!

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