In-Game Bullying

iAmaUnicorn··2 votes·517 views

Wouldn't it be great if riot created a product that protected from in-game bullying? Instead, Riot strives to creat an environment where the majority wins. AKA a group can choose to play, get mad at a single player, and then proceed to get that player banned from the game, simply because that person protected themselves while they were berated by their "allies." It is terrifying to know Riot not only condones, but promotes players to come onto their game and create a toxic environment where a single player gets bullied and abused

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MysterQ4 votes

I hate Riot's mute "policy."

But grow a skin, in game bullying is irrelevant. It can tilt you, it can hurt your game. But it should not affect your life, so move on.

iAmaUnicorn1 votes

you are so right, if not for the fact that a SINGLE group of 4 resulted in my account getting a 14 day suspension, simply because they agreed it was right to be abusive as a group upon me. They agreed it was alright to refer to their teammate as being mentally challenged, as if the simple fact of being 4/5 made them correct. It would be great to be able to avoid in-game bullying, but when riot condones them to allow a single player from playing the game, it is not only sad, but proof they condone bullying within their program that results in groups being able to express outright control over their environment.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

May I add, it was a single game, where 4 members decided it was okay to use terms referring to their ally being mentally challenged, that I was then issued a 14 DAY SUSPENSION because riot has no care for the community.

MysterQ3 votes

But you sadly must have retaliated =
I agree it is a bad system. But don't say we need to fight online bullying, say Riot needs a better system.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

how is it not an issue dealing directly to bullying, if they promote their system of only capturing the data dealing directly to the player, rather than all relevant data, such as the remarks abusing the player. How is it fair that riot gets to openly allow abusive language, but the second the player calls out an ally for using the language, they get a banned. If anything, Riot should always take into account if players used highly offensive an abusive language against the individual first. Lets rephrase the situation into another way that boil down the same way. An ally uses a RACIST term against an allie. the allie protests, saying it is racist and bigoted to used such terms. Says the allies are "pieces of shit for using such terms" (random text that would probably flag offensive). The single person being singled out the faces a ban, while 4 players that used highly offensive, combative, and abusive language, get off freely. This is the exact same situation. The people using the terms face ZERO retaliation, but by grouping together as 4, they get to completely control the narrative.

FloRaider424 votes

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it was a single game then I was issued a 14 DAY SUSPENSION

I am seriously doubting that. 4 reports don't mean anything.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

nope, a single game, in which my allies chose to be rude, I said it would be smart for our caster, who goes oom constantly, to grab a morello's (against a yas with a BT). Instead, the caster decided I was mentally challenged, and refused to buy the item. I muted them after that point, calling the decision to not get a morellos (30min before the game ended) an "idiotic" move (I guess a terrible decision on my part). I then get a great message at the end of the game that I have a 14-day suspension, thanks Riot, I love to get bullied.

FloRaider424 votes

You don't get a suspension for one game, you probably have a history of reports. I also doubt that your comments in game had the same sound as what you type now.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

let me send what i typed in game, which i will surmise the worse terms to be in calling an ally "trash" for refusing to buy an item that would assist our team, and calling them idiots, after many of them proceeded to use the abusive term towards me. I will have it noted, that never did I once stop playing, do intentional feeding, or simply grief an ally and troll them into a situation where they died. Instead, I played properly as the tank, bit my lip, and brought us to a win as maokai. I then get greeted with a ban post game because my allies called me "retarded". Thats what this game did. I have a small history, but never a long ban, and never for much, I have played for 6+ years on this account, but Riot would prefer to bully me

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FloRaider423 votes

I have a small history, but never a long ban, and never for much

You realize that bans work like probation and if you repeatedly get banned the duration increases?

BTW you shouldn't have posted that log if you wanted to play the role of the victim. You definetly sound like you deserve a report.

Is it fair that the premade ganged up on you? No! But you definetly aren't innocent yourself.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

Never did I once say i didn't try to defend myself, I simply said that I was introduced to a toxic environment in which i got to experience some of the worst of the LoL community. That I got to face some of the most vile players as allies, and not only did i man up and finish the game, I assisted my allies in some terrible situations as tank. I simply said that I was issued FAR FAR FAR FAR WORSE than i could of dreamed to come back at them with, for simply trying to give good advice for a player complaining about being oom. I never said I was innocent, what is at fault here, is that when confronted with a heavily toxic and demeaning game, I am not only expected, I am required to act as if all is well and KNOW that the people will never face a single issue, because by playing as 4, they reduce the other person to being the toxic element of the game that should never be heeded. They force an environment where they are always right unless they enemy takes your word for fact against 4 competing sources.

Simply put, It is BS that I get a 14 day ban for 4 players deciding to be bullies, but since i stand alone, those 4 players get to continue on ruining the community with no recourse. In fact, Riot allows them to bring each game into mayhem simply because they play as 4 and entirely rewrite the summoner code for their team.

for that nice piece A La Mode, I haven't faced any type of reporting in well over a year (likely multiple), but yet i get to be judged as if I had immediately just enacted every single one of my prior "crimes" within seconds before getting reported for this. Their systems judges based on things reported, not time frame they occurred over, neglecting the fact that nearly a decade has passed between some of the situations.

Ýones2 votes

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iAmaUnicorn: lol iAmaUnicorn: no adc comp vs no adc comp iAmaUnicorn: cept they got quinn top iAmaUnicorn: have fun bot vs yas iAmaUnicorn: yas and riven prolly iAmaUnicorn: well fck iAmaUnicorn: nj iAmaUnicorn: thought jax was you, lol iAmaUnicorn: lol iAmaUnicorn: nj iAmaUnicorn: Lol iAmaUnicorn: get more mana man, you have 800, your abilities cost 150 each iAmaUnicorn: you are making yourself oom like a dipshit then complaining to us iAmaUnicorn: not even a morellos iAmaUnicorn: trash iAmaUnicorn: cuz u are an ass to me iAmaUnicorn: maybe if you weren;t throwing the game and spamming spells iAmaUnicorn: we have a chance iAmaUnicorn: i acan fucking 1v4 iAmaUnicorn: and all i need is minimal backup iAmaUnicorn: lol iAmaUnicorn: gl iAmaUnicorn: fuking idiots iAmaUnicorn: and thats offensive as shit iAmaUnicorn: reporting iAmaUnicorn: idgaf iAmaUnicorn: using offensive language like that is childish shit iAmaUnicorn: gl winning without YOUR BEST PLAYER iAmaUnicorn: THE PERSON CARRYING YOUR AS THROUGH ALL THIS iAmaUnicorn: THAT YOU HAVE TO USE FUCKING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE AGAINST iAmaUnicorn: CONGRATS iAmaUnicorn: exactly iAmaUnicorn: so why you guys raging like idiots? iAmaUnicorn: no1? iAmaUnicorn: just lawlsi ng iAmaUnicorn: gj team iAmaUnicorn: you managed to throw an ezpz game iAmaUnicorn: can;t even win vs all ad team iAmaUnicorn: congrats iAmaUnicorn: i bet you guys get trophies each time you play iAmaUnicorn: let me guess iAmaUnicorn: you guys carry around confedarate flags too? iAmaUnicorn: so glad to have offensive players like you in league' iAmaUnicorn: btw iAmaUnicorn: i love that the only response you have to real concerns, is to use offensive langugae iAmaUnicorn: language iAmaUnicorn: proves your age iAmaUnicorn: sad really iAmaUnicorn: gg

Yeah, no idea why you would get a 14 day suspension. You didn't say anything rude at all. Riot's system doesn't work as intended.

Algemis2 votes

He/She may be using different words, but I don't doubt for a second that they faced this issue, hell, I faced a similar ban about a year back because i got angry at an ally using the N-word repeatedly. guess what I get for using offensive language in defensive of this disgusting behavior. It should not matter if you have a past, especially when riots new system teams reported players with other reported players. They are throwing chlorine and ammonia in a pot and then banning anything that boils/fumes out.

iAmaUnicorn2 votes

It is quite great to have had some bad experiences in the past 8 years I have played, and therefore be put into playing with a disgusting group of trolls, racists, misogynists, and bigots, because that is what riot deems appropriate, to group those that are disgusting with those that are have shown some menial diversion from the general norm of behavior. FAIRNESS

FloRaider422 votes

It should not matter if you have a past

So what are bans supposed to be based on?

Algemis2 votes

simply put, they should analyze the situation, past can definitely play into it, but as it stands, it feels those with a past record are considered wrong automatically. As if a felon can't have a crime committed against them or have an accident happen. It currently feels that if you have a record, you are automatically charged with attacking some1 even though they came at you with a machine gun and you came at them with a fcking slingshot. That you are at fault for "hurting" an ally even though they sit there and slap you while you blow a fucking spitwad at them. I get that the spitwad needs recompense, but how is it fair that the person slapping people never gets affected?

Additionally, the current system is entirely broken, why should the same restricting/suspending/banning procedure be applied over 8 years as it is applied in the short term. A forgiveness programs should be initiated, how fair is it to compare some1 to who they were 8 years prior, just because they don't want to lose $400+ they invested over that time. It is unfair that a player never receives a negative response for 4 years, yet the second they do, they get a 14 day suspension. Basing their suspensions on prior record is by far heavily biased against old accounts.

FloRaider421 votes

Thanks for being calm and rational about this [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

It currently feels that if you have a record, you are automatically charged with attacking some1

Imagine: Police arrives at scene Two people are fighting each other One has a criminal record and a history of physical assault the other hasn't There are no reliable witnesses (premades lie and enemy team doesn't get the whole picture) Who is more likely to be suspected to have started the fight?

Who says that the other guy goes scott free? Every report gets noted and if he continues to act that way he will be banned as well.

Again you don't suddenly recieve a ban. You start with chat restrictions and work yourself up with bans getting longer and longer.

Prior records doesn't mean all records, but "recent" history.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Hey guys,

This thread should really be in Player Behavior. (Just below gameplay) That said, this discussion is great so I'm going to lock it for now. In the future, gotta aim your threads at the right place!

-Cap

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