Female Champion Body Types

Pacifica Marie··7 votes·2,855 views

In the hopes that someone from Riot might see this, I think that perhaps the next female champ that comes out should be a bit more plus sized! I feel like the support from the female players would be huge and I'd love to see a female champ that is both attractive AND plus sized!

37 Comments

The Loli Bully10 votes

->Attractive Female ->Plus Size

Pick one mate.

Reynard the ƒox5 votes

too many fedora-toting dorito-munching katana-polishing neckbeard white knights on this forum for your perfectly logical post to have any upvotes

Dreddeth1 votes

I fail to see the logic of casual bigotry, personally, and I loathe katanas about as much as I loathe casual bigots. They're both entirely useless at their purposes, being a human and being a weapon, respectively, and for the same reason: While the rest of the world advanced, bigots, as the Samurai, continue to adhere to an obsolete paradigm, to the extent that they are/were effectively crippled when they faced people armed with more advanced tools, such as the concept of equal rights, or muskets, respectively.

That is not to say that the Samurai were bigots. I'm only using them as a means of better illustrating how the opinion that only women of a certain shape can qualify as attractive is an obsolete relic of a bygone age, much like the Samurai and their ways.

Also this is your argument, or rather lack thereof, in a nutshell.

Reynard the ƒox1 votes

its funny because youre the exact person i described in my other post

enjoy eternal virginity

Dreddeth1 votes

Are you honestly trying to project your own frustrations onto people you don't like? That's very immature of you, and not at all relevant to my point, which is that your perspective is bigoted, and that you haven't contributed anything meaningful to the discussion.

Reynard the ƒox1 votes

its funny to me because youre just proving my point over and over :)

Dreddeth1 votes

What is your point, exactly? You aren't really demonstrating anything other than a suspicious refusal to engage in polite discussion.

Elwyn4 votes

A cute, chubby girl champ? Sign me the frick up!

SeoSeBom4 votes

People hate fat girls and you know it.

Reynard the ƒox4 votes

I like sexy women.

I want to see more sexy women in my games.

I don't find plus sized girls attractive.

I don't want plus sized girls in my games.

Seriphym1 votes

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I like sexy women.

I want to see more sexy women in my games.

I don't find plus sized girls attractive.

I don't want plus sized girls in my games.

If I wanted to see plus sized females I could go out into the real world.

I play games because they are NOT the real world.

If they want to see an "attractive plus sized feminist champ" let them go watch :

https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/roseanne.jpg

ActuallyArrow4 votes

Pretty sure Gragas is the only +Size champ (unless we're counting non-humans). I mean, it is a battle arena, where the champions are always engaged in intense combat (lore wise, and game wise). This means they are always getting a workout, which would only make them lose weight. The only reason Gragas is so large is because his fighting involves chugging down barrels of grog. If you notice, his arms are muscular. That is because he is always carrying, lifting, and throwing his barrels of Grog, thus working out his upper arms.

I'm also not quite sure a female Gragas could achieve attractiveness... Unless there are actually people out there who find Gragas to be attractive. If that's the case, sure, maybe some men (or women) would find a female Gragas attractive. To each their own, right?

DrCyanide4 votes

Urgot is on the plus size too.

It's all a matter of scale, proportions, and attitude on if a plus size woman is attractive or not. Attitude can make up for a lot.

Personally, I'm sad we don't have a stereotypical old hag witch in the game. I mean, come on, it's a classic!

ActuallyArrow3 votes

Is Urgot human? I wasn't counting him because I was under the impression he was a non-human. xD

This is true. Many find Jinx to not be attractive due to lack of breasts, but I find her completely attractive because of her crazy, destructive personality.

They need this. I want an old hag witch champion now. It would fit great with the lore, too.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

urgot was human now hes not exactly human hes like a tech + zombie combination

ActuallyArrow1 votes

So he is a +size Zombie? Equality for all! :D

Ice Weasel X2 votes

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Pretty sure Gragas is the only +Size champ (unless we're counting non-humans). I mean, it is a battle arena, where the champions are always engaged in intense combat (lore wise, and game wise). This means they are always getting a workout, which would only make them lose weight.

Not quite. Muscle is heavier than fat. It's just denser, so it takes up less space. I've run into a lot of women who tried martial arts to lose weight and were surprised when they ended up going up 10-20 pounds.

I'm also not quite sure a female Gragas could achieve attractiveness... Unless there are actually people out there who find Gragas to be attractive.

I'm positive there are. I personally know quite a few people comparable to Gragas (not quite his size, but general appearance) who have no trouble finding partners.

ActuallyArrow1 votes

Well, yes, muscle is heavier than fat. I am quite sure Olaf weighs near 300lbs because of all his muscles. I suppose I worded it wrong, when I said "weight" I was referring to fat. Like Gragas' stomach. I myself weigh around 220lbs because of height+muscle.

Correct there too, but because I am who I am (meaning I don't find heavy-set to be attractive), I couldn't speak for others. Thus said "I'm not quite sure". I know someone far larger than I am who has had more girlfriends than myself. I suppose in the end it comes down to personality (of both people).

Zarddramon1 votes

I don't really think the argument of they're always fighting so they couldn't stay fat is legit. I mean, sumo wrestlers and Olympic weight lifters are always working out, yet they're fat as well as incredibly strong. So it would be completely believable to have a fat champion who doesn't constantly drink like Gragas.

Also, I've seen alot of things on the internet and there are some people out there who got some really "interesting" tastes, I'm sure there are some people who are attracted to him.

Veraska4 votes

im all about more diverse body types for female characters in this game. a lot of people say rek'sai RekSai is a good example of this but honestly she really isn't at all. she's a woman only in the context of her voice being a higher tone then what you imagine a male version of her would sound like. if you need to remind players that this character is a female then she's probably not very good female representation.

i think 2 really good examples for plus sized female representation are

Zephyr

http://www.comicbookreligion.com/img/z/e/Zephyr_Faith_Herbert_2.jpg

a legitimately fat woman who has super powers that don't have to just do with her weight (arguably some say she's a literal blimp but the story i read shows she very much overweight before she becomes a super power, implying that it's actual fat and not some weird hot air super power)

and brienne of tarth

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117031/3660017-brienne.jpg

still a woman obviously but she's a warrior and she's strong and durable as any fighter should be (remember female fighters don't have to be dexterity based) these 2 me are good examples of non sexualized or idealized female characters and function fine as good representation for girls who have a little bit in the tums.

im all for more diverse body types in women. kalista was an okay start, but we could do better and hopefully have a character who is X and is Y and not X because of Y or X despite of Y (does this make sense)

and too the folks saying "i don't want it in my games" or "i wouldn't play it" that's the cool thing about league, there's over 100 characters so you won't ever have too, i don't ever play hyper feminine characters simply because i don't see myself represented in them and they don't fulfill my in game fantasy. but i bet there's plenty of people in our player base who would love or need this kind of representation.

TL:DR -more body types in league pls, particularly for the women since they're lacking in that department. don't let your fat girl characters be walking fat jokes like we've let gragas become (no angry redneck ullga skin pls) female characters are strong when they're strong and they're feminine, not when they're strong because they're women or despite being women.

RazorTS4 votes

fat people disgust me

LordTekron4 votes

Oh boy, here we go again... This isn't the first time a heated argument spurred out from such a talking of a, not exactly fit female for a champion... In fact when this was first brought up I did make a champion under those circumstances to show how A. it could be done right and B. Just to look and see how pissed off people would get from it all.

As for my opinion on the whole thing? Well look at the whole god damn roster of champions we have, and tell me some of them are more sillier or just wouldn't work in reality as a legit thing? A plus size female wouldn't surprise me in a game that has a crying mummy, a nine tailed fox, a bunch of monster from an alternate dimension, two reanimated soldiers, a drunk, a well mustached man with an ego, a mutant rat, and a guy the uses an anchor as a weapon, AND THAT IS JUST NAMING THE PEOPLE I HAVE UNLOCKED!

Ice Weasel X1 votes

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Oh boy, here we go again... This isn't the first time a heated argument spurred out from such a talking of a, not exactly fit female for a champion... In fact when this was first brought up I did make a champion under those circumstances to show how A. it could be done right and B. Just to look and see how pissed off people would get from it all.

As for my opinion on the whole thing? Well look at the whole god damn roster of champions we have, and tell me some of them are more sillier or just wouldn't work in reality as a legit thing? A plus size female wouldn't surprise me in a game that has a crying mummy, a nine tailed fox, a bunch of monster from an alternate dimension, two reanimated soldiers, a drunk, a well mustached man with an ego, a mutant rat, and a guy the uses an anchor as a weapon, AND THAT IS JUST NAMING THE PEOPLE I HAVE UNLOCKED!

But... but you didn't name anyone :(

LordTekron1 votes

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But... but you didn't name anyone :(

That's besides the point...

Ice Weasel X3 votes

Why does she have to be attractive? Why can't we have a female Gragas counterpart?

...except, please cover her up more. Gragas is too sexualized as it is.

Veraska4 votes

as long as all her skins aren't just "fat girl tropbhes" like all of gragas' skins, and they make the character respectfully and not just "ullga the whale lady" or some garbage

Dreddeth3 votes

I think we can all agree that the Renaissance-era female nudes, while more well-rounded than one might expect, are still exceedingly beautiful. Plus-sized doesn't necessarily mean Gragas-sized, after all.

Of course, that perspective lends itself its own problems: Renaissance art is guided primarily by anatomical study, so it really doesn't mesh well with Riot's more anime-esque style, which relies on exaggeration to define a given character. That being said, the principles behind creating a character who is both overweight and reasonably physically attractive are probably universally applicable, the trick being figuring out how to apply those principles to a given art style, rather than shifting to one in which they are already apparent.

Patience, OP. I'm sure that if/when Riot's art department reaches that point, they'll do it anyway for the sake of some weird concept/mechanic that they think would fit her best.

EmittingXs2 votes

Doesn't Rek'sai break the "skinny and attractive female" cycle? Compared to other women in LoL, she's plus sized and I support her... but seriously, I've always wanted a Gragas-esque female fighter. Some one burly and kick ass, kinda like Vi, but stronger looking and not super pretty and attractive. Sure Rek'sai is a chick but she doesn't fully represent what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a human, not a Void monster.

Hooks You2 votes

Someone perhaps like Ellie from borderlands?

EmittingXs3 votes

Dude... DUUUUUUUUUUDE! Yes, vulgarity and all! That'd be freaking awesome.

Upon taking damage: "That tickled." Upon taking a turret down: "That’s one part down!" Upon losing vision (Graves/Nocturne?): "Aw, skagballs -- looks like we got a dust storm comin'!" Joke?: "Explosions, theft, and interior design. Hell of a day."

Hooks You1 votes

Riot this idea has already been laid out for you, just make a champ and you have a skin for them already. Maybe the champ can have some sort of a vehicle? That would be a new mechanic for a champ!

EmittingXs1 votes

The vehicle could be her ult! Kinda like Sion's in that you can't fully control it so that people don't scream "overpowered"? That or give me a job at Riot~

IGotScuttleCrabs2 votes

I want a champ that resembles Ellie from Borderlands 2

Seriphym1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pacifica Marie,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=oAvNsdfH,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-01T19:03:01.937+0000)

In the hopes that someone from Riot might see this, I think that perhaps the next female champ that comes out should be a bit more plus sized! I feel like the support from the female players would be huge and I'd love to see a female champ that is both attractive AND plus sized!

And I would like to see the easter bunny but unfortunately such things simply do not exist.

Zahz1 votes

rek sai is pretty large

Kuzja11 votes

What kind of plus size you talking about? Cute Chubby girl or Muscular Sexy chick?

catraven1 votes

they're back lol.....

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