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Shen ult change

ShenOnry··1 votes·1,781 views

Hello sums,

Not sure this is appropriate discussion but with the amount of changes that have been implemented to characters and runes I think it would be good to change Shen's ult. His ult cool down is incredibly long and I know there will be those that would say it's a dumb idea but... what if his ult was changed to where everyone on team receives a shield when he ults in on a single target ally to keep the enemy team guessing where he will pop up to give further presences across the game and a larger surprise. It's rather difficult to push lane keeping an eye on your teammates and ulting in just to have your tower pushed in from attempting the save or lower the cool down by 20-30 seconds overall through points (and yes I always run Teleport). Just my thoughts, good idea? bad idea? Also... several of his abilities scale off of AP and I don't think anyone in their right mind buys any AP items for him. Perhaps scale abilities based on health/armor/magic resist (I know one of his abilities scale from HP). Anyways this post isn't about his QWE abilities but mainly about his ult.

Let's discuss

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6 Comments

Monstermushmush1 votes

I dunno. Shen just can't leave lane because if he does, he loses so much xp and his lane opponent can get so many tower platings.

ShenOnry1 votes

That is very true, but what's the point of the ult if you suffer so much from attempting a save or making a play... What I typically have an issue with deals in correlation with lane pressure either by bully comps duo bot or an intuitive enemy jungler and Shen's long ult cool down. His kit is nice, but I feel it's lacking in the ult department, if I remember correctly his ult use to be 120sec at level 3… I could be wrong. Level 1 Ult 200sec level 2 ult 180 sec level 3ult 160sec. Arguably there's only 2 true global ults and that's Shen and Karthus. TF, Galio, Jinx, Ashe, Draven, Gangplank, Pantheon, Ziggs, Bard, and Ezreal have partially global ults to the extent that they have a wide range. their ults also scale with primary stats (other than GP and Bard). By comparison Shen's ult is sometimes really good but mostly really awful (doesn't scale with any primary stats people build on him and I don't even recall any AP items on the recommended build) but could be better with slight tweaked cool down or the proposed ult concept above... I mean the ult name is "United we stand".

Shen [zombie-brand-clap]

ChaosReyn1 votes

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I dunno. Shen just can't leave lane because if he does, he loses so much xp and his lane opponent can get so many tower platings.

That's what teleport is for. You're supposed to ult down, make your miracle play, and tp back to your lane when its over. Buuuuuut, everyone below like gold 2 uses their tp to get back to lane right after their first back and doesn't have it up after their flashy ult play.

That's not because Shen can't leave lane: that's because the player leaves him no fast way back to lane.

Monstermushmush1 votes

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That's what teleport is for. You're supposed to ult down, make your miracle play, and tp back to your lane when its over. Buuuuuut, everyone below like gold 2 uses their tp to get back to lane right after their first back and doesn't have it up after their flashy ult play.

That's not because Shen can't leave lane: that's because the player leaves him no fast way back to lane.

Yeah, that's what I do when i get bullied out of lane as shen.

ChaosReyn1 votes

There's a huge difference between leaving lane, and getting bullied out of lane. Besides that, if you're being bullied, that's the best time to help your team anyway. if YOU aren't gonna make plays, let THEM make plays.

If YOU aren't gonna solo carry on a tank, let your bot lane get fed enough to shred people, and your mid get fed enough to yeetus deletus their adc/mid.

Shen tbh is the king of "lose lane, win game." But he's also not supposed to be very easy to bully.

ChaosReyn1 votes

In regards to the original question, if you were going to make it a global shield to your team, they'd have to make the shields weaksauce and it'd be pretty much irrelevant. In addition to that, it'd be even more irrelevant as a "distraction" in teamfights because you're probably close to the same distance from the enemy team in most situations regardless of who you ult.

I don't think Shen ult is bad as a single target, because it makes sure that one person gets the defense they need, and basically forces everyone trying to kill that guy to KNOW you're coming and back off. If you were to use your Oprah version, it may work in low elo to confuse someone and make them leave, but anyone around high silver and above is gonna know you're ulting the guy about to die, and your shield wont last long enough for the port.

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