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Singed Rework Concept

InsanitysTheName·8/12/2016, 3:22:15 AM·8 votes·2,162 views

So I was thinking about what Singed would look like reworked and this happened. Tell me what you think!

Passive - Poison Trail

Singed lays a poisonous trail behind him that deals 10/30/50/70/90 (+20% Ability Power) (Levels 1/5/9/13/18) magic damage per second for 2 seconds.

Rylai’s Crystal Scepter does not apply to his passive.

Q - Corrosive Flask

Singed throws a flask at a target location, applying a corrosive potion to all enemies struck that deals 65/120/185/225/260 (+60% Ability Power) magic damage. If the flask strikes an enemy champion it explodes in a greater range and applies a Mark of the Chemist for 5 seconds to all champions struck.

Cooldown: 14/12/10/8/6 Mana Cost: 40/60/80/100/120 Cast Range: 1000 Radius: 75 Champ Explosion Radius: 250

W - Frozen Trail

Passive: Increases Singed's Ability Power by 10 for every 100 Bonus Health he has.

Active: Singed changes his brew by adding a freezing mixture for 5 seconds. Singed poison applies a debuff that slows enemies for 30% for 3 seconds, and then stuns them for 1 second.

Cooldown: 20 Mana Cost: 40/30/20/10/0

E - Fling

Singed flings an enemy over his shoulder, dealing 50/80/110/140/170 (+2/4/6/8/10% of Singed's Bonus Health) as magic damage. If the target Singed flings has a Mark of the Chemist, they are also rooted for 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds.

Cooldown: 12/11/10/9/8 Mana Cost: 80/90/100/110/120 Cast Range: 175

R - Insanity Potion

Singed drinks a potent brew of chemicals, granting him double speed, double damage from his passive, and a 40% slow on his passive for 8 seconds. Upon activation a global laugh is heard.

Cooldown: 140/120/100 Mana Cost: 100

How about a Drink? --

Edit 1: Added W rankings and added global laugh to ult.

36 Comments

CrimsonCobra38/12/2016, 4:15:44 AM2 votes

Wait a second--under what conditions does his passive activate? Hold on. It's always on. Ow.

TheDogOfSteel8/12/2016, 4:49:59 AM2 votes

Neat concept but poison trail being on all the time would make csing the easiest thing in the world.

Still a cool concept and worth an upvote.

(also q at max rank costs more than ult)

Friendly Ram8/12/2016, 5:02:22 AM2 votes

i like the idea but not sure on giving singed any more hard cc. he's more about being obnoxious and making the enemy want to chase him then wanting them to stop.

Bârd8/12/2016, 12:42:53 PM2 votes

Passive: His old main damage source, but permanently on at no cost. Not broken at all. Yes, the damage is lower, but you put enough damage elsewhere in his kit that it doesn't even matter.

Q: One of Singed's core weaknesses is his lack of a ranged skill. This blows that away, with a massive nuke, but the tiny radius (even when you hit a champion it is small) makes it bad for pushing, which is the only thing Singed ever does. Adds too much damage, as well as a ranged farming tool, to Singed's kit.

W: You get literally nothing for more than 1 point in it. Also, this allows Singed to hit 300 AP with a full tank setup. Too powerful of a passive. Also, don't give Singed a stun. That is just asking for trouble.

E: An argument could be made for his E scaling off of Singed's HP instead of the target's, but that root is out of the question. Singed's current root is balanced because it is damn near impossible to pull off; this is basically guarunteed.

R: Singed's current ultimate grants him 25 seconds of a moderate increase to his speed, AP, regen, and defenses. This makes it incredible for doing what Singed does best; running around wasting the time of enemies. This ultimate is a massive increase to his speed, damage, and utility, but with a short duration. This would turn Singed into a champion who wants to engage instead of a champion mean to apply permanent pressure, and I don't like that.

tl;dr Too powerful, and doesn't maintain Singed's playstyle.

redfeenix8/12/2016, 6:19:24 PM2 votes

I dont like the idea of making his main spell his passive. He really needs to manage his mana, and thats an aspect of singed that should never change.

For w, I like the idea of throwing an unstable contoxtion. Nice idea

I think it should be like this:

Passive: Singed gets bonus movement speed equal to 10% of his max mana (or whatever % is balanced). MS for singed is good, encourages mana builds

Q:Same as Live

W Sticky Concoction: Throw a sticky bomb in an area which SLOWS all enemies. Flinging an enemy into the sticky area will knock them down and GROUND them. (Same effect as LIVE w, but now uses grounded).

E: Same as Live

R: Same as Live

Great ideas in the OP

l Helios l8/19/2016, 8:19:32 PM1 votes

Does he still laugh when he flings someone?

ZT Xperimentor8/12/2016, 6:28:08 PM1 votes

Nice forethought preventing the crystal scepter from working on his passive, then buffing his ultimate; but his poison trail always on without limitation? I'd suggest some kind of inhibitor, like he only benefits half of max mana on items or something, to give him some kind of meaningful penalty.

Rain NT8/15/2016, 9:35:43 PM1 votes

Not a bad idea. Bet Riot would use one of these when they rework him, making his Q a passive instead of an ability. And having his perma slow as an ability is an awesome idea.

Votable Jester8/12/2016, 9:26:13 AM1 votes

Difficult for me to judge in my tired state, but right now, the W seems to have just 1 rank to it.

Keepe8/15/2016, 9:38:16 PM1 votes

Eeeeh. My complaint is that it seems to force him from his respective role as a tank whose main job is to be a pain in the butt to a brawler. Not sure that would be healthy especially with this kit.