Why Garen needs a complete gameplay and visual Rework(visual is cool could be cooler)

Ekron El·11/25/2019, 7:46:41 AM·1 votes·953 views

Garen People of Demacia It is your sworn duty to read this whole thing. First I would like to say this is going to be long, because i am passionate about what im going to say and have a lot to talk about on the subject so pls read this to the end and really listen to what I have to say it would mean a lot thank u.Oh boy where do I begin. So Garen, my personal favorite champion in league of legends. Not because of his kit or simplicity, but his lore and his character. He is just awesome. But this is where I get disappointed and kind of frustrated. Garen the least played champion in lol worlds, who hasn't won really any of the games he has played in worlds, which are mostly all losses. But why is that, why is he not played well competitively, well lets see. His kit is incredibly simple, which means that he cant be very strong. Low risk low reward, cant be low risk high reward that's what we call imbalanced. Sure some say he is imbalanced right now, but high elo players will still wreck him because of his kit.Now I know there needs to be simple champs for the people who need them but I think its time that we realized that league of legends is one of the most if not the most competitive game in the world. And its not a simple game, and people strive to be the best, always trying to get better and master their favorite champs make those crazy outplays. And u can do that with well champs that have that potential in their kits. Garen I feel like im immensely limited to a certain skill level, because well since his kit is so incredibly simple so is his gameplay, he has no gap closers, no cc, recent updates force him to build attack speed if u want good damage, which is completely opposite of his kit, or what his kit should be. He is supposed to be a juggernaut, they don't build as, so why is it in his kit??? He cant proc after shock, and hes a juggernaut like what? Has no cc, no team fighting synergies. Cant really set up plays, or pull crazy out plays cause its not possible with his kit. Riot, League is at that point where nothing should be that simple I want to be able to have a skill cap like lee sin, katarina, Azir, Zed, Irelia, and so many more. A champ that when mastered and played correctly, u can do awesome stuff that other players have to practice hard to learn. Like Beyblade on yasuo, he is still good if u don't know how to do that but its awesome when u do, and your rewarded for it. I feel that all champions should have that kind of potential to do things that only the best and most practiced players can utilize a champ to that capacity. I love garen and his character but I feel theres a point where u cant get better at his gameplay, I cant practice awesome wombo combos. And im getting bored of him and that saddens me, and when I do good with him everyone says the same thing. "Your Garen u take no skill", if I do bad its, "Your garen how are u losing hes a brainless champ". Thing is they are right in a way, should anyone be able to say that about a champ in league, one of the most competitive games in the world. I think that every champ should have a decent difficulty, and potential to play a champ at a level that far exceeds other players on that champ. I think there should be simpler champs yes but not brainless ones that really the only thing u can do to be better than other garen players is will, have better itemization and map awareness, And knowing when to engage, but when it comes to gameplay all garen players are the same, no unique style or combos or itemization either really. Its sad, his only gap closer is flash which is a 5min cooldown that's not right, hes a juggernaut, that cant cc for his team. None of it makes sense. I Just hate doing the same thing over and over again, AAQER, and sure there's some other combos for certain situations, but its like really? I hate having an ability where I just spin in place for 3 seconds like does that take skill, can I spin better then other garens, not really, takes no aim all u do is get close and stay close. But imagine for example if garen had these abilities, now im not saying that these are the abilities u should do. Its just an example. Put is Q and E into one ability, It would be his E, Garen quickly spins twice in an area around him slowing enemies he hits, then leaps into the air to deliver a massive blow 1/3 the area of his spin that silences enemies. With this ability u would press e then aim with the the 1/3 of the ability that procs the silence takes skill and aim but quicker and more smooth, and more satisfying. Now his passive oh boy, I think his passive is lame doesn't affect your gameplay at all, u just sit back during laning phase and heal after trades, no skill and boring, and annoying for the enemy player. Instead it should be more interactive. Garens passive, enchanted armor and Blade. After hitting with an ability his next basic attack becomes empowered doing extra damage and building stacks of Damage resistance to his armor for a period of time, doing empowered autos renews the timer on the stacks. Garens w: Garen Strengthens his resolve becoming unstoppable for the duration of the ability and slams his sword into the ground cracking the ground around him slowing enemies, damage he takes from any source gives him a stack of Damage resistance from his passive up to a maximum. Based on the amount of damage he has taken at the end of the ability it increases the size, damage and knock up duration of the ability as he pushes his sword deeper into the ground sending a powerful ripple through the ground around him. This ability can be pressed again to activate earlier. Now Garens E: Garen charges for a short period before leaping into the air to slam into the ground damaging and knocking up enemies around him if garen hits 3 or more enemy champions with this ability his next q becomes empowered and dealing more damage, with a more powerful slow, and longer silence, for each person hit with an empowered q, reduce cooldown of his E. Garens R: Garen Summons his sword high above him in the air with immense strength he leaps straight up Grabbing the sword, then in the chosen direction slams his sword into the ground stunning and dealing massive damage to champions in the immediate area, and sending out a wave that damages and knocks back enemies within the outer area of the ability. Now there's lots of other ideas I had for abilities but these were my favorites. I probably don't know enough to add balanced stats but that's not my job. I would love to hear other peoples ideas, theres many possibilities. The abilities were just a passion of mine and me showing how much like like this champ and what he could be im not asking u do these exact abilities. But he could be so much more, and I know that lol fans would love to see garen played in lol worlds more, he is an iconic part of lol and should be given more respect than a brainless champ. I would love to put in the name of the abilities and many other things but the point is that he needs the rework, Like how volibear and fiddlesticks are being reworked, they are old champs that don't have a kit that is up to date. Feels old, that's garen. I Love lol ive grown up playing this game and im just sad that im growing bored and disappointed of my favorite champ. I know its a lot to ask and whoever reads this to the end I very much appreciate it and hope that u show it to someone that could do something about garen if they chose too. Pls give it that chance. And pls share your opinions or ideas on garen i would love to hear them. Or even any champs that u agree are like garen and need the rework .

12 Comments

Divin1ty11/25/2019, 8:25:10 AM4 votes

Good effort and I would read it, but without spacing nah not a chance. Already got a headache.

xHeimtechZX11/25/2019, 8:42:53 AM1 votes

Hmm, honestly I'm not entirely sure if I want him changed. Here's reasons why:

  1. I still think he's a fun champ.
  2. LoL needs some easy champions for complete beginners.
  3. His kit is almost completely the opposite of Darius. His passive heals him over time, Darius' passive makes enemies bleed over time. Garen focuses more on being tanky, Darius has armor penetration and is more aggressive. Garen makes himself speed up towards the enemy, Darius pulls the enemy towards him. Garen is easy to pick up, Darius require some positioning and taking chances (I still kinda suck at Darius but I'm decent with Garen). I kinda like those opposites and I also don't want Riot to touch Darius because he's fun and perfect the way he is. Despite those differences, I build Darius and Garen similarly (which may or may not be ideal). They don't HAVE to be complete opposites, but I just think it works out nicely. Its always fun watching Darius vs. Garen lanes.

So for your ideas.. I think getting stacks of armor would be good the more he attacks. It's keeping the "opposite of Darius" thing. Maybe not stacks of damage tho, just might be op to get defense and attack passive all in one. Actually, a lot of your ideas sound like Garen on steroids and I'd be up for such a change if it was balanced. Its sounds a little overtuned.

IMelchorI11/25/2019, 8:42:56 AM1 votes

He is supposed to be a juggernaut, they don't build as

almost all juggernauts build item 3078 and a lot of them build some attack speed

Nasus Darius Trundle Yorick Volibear

arowin24211/25/2019, 9:28:01 AM1 votes

if it Weren't for the W A L L O F T E X T i would read this over multiple times.

garen is one of those chose champs whom is usually balanced trough numbers, he's got nothing flashy to do so numbers it is.

at the moment he's strong, despite that thing that have countered him in the past still counter him. if you wanna ruin his day play Kayle everything she does invalidates him.

FURRY V211/25/2019, 9:33:36 AM1 votes

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IMelchorI11/25/2019, 11:05:30 AM1 votes

i forgot DrMundo builds item 3046 to snowball just like garen

most people who are against garens attack speed spin only say "he is not supposed to" or "i dont like that he builds this". this is only an opinion without a real argument.

if you do not want to build attack speed on garen then build other items. build item 3053 instead of item 3046

why do you want to deny people the ability to build attack speed when they want to? you give up tank stats for more damage. it is a fair trade.

in truth the difference between Garen item 3046 and Garen item 3053 is the same as

onhit MasterYi and critical strike MasterYi

it is the same champion. he plays the same. he is countered the same way. the only difference for garen is less tank and more damage in the item build.