Garen needs buffs

hsojbabe·4/19/2018, 10:27:38 PM·5 votes·1,557 views

Starting with his passive, he should be able to regen health every 3 seconds he is untouched NOT 6!!!!

Q - should be able to STUN targets with more HP than him (so that AD builds are more viable) keeping his silence as well.

W - should grant garen's a shield BASED on the TARGETS ARMOR!!!! (GOD HE NEEDS THIS!)

E - pretty much the same because its balanced HOWEVER, he should be given a fear effect like fiddle so he is given proper cc in teamfights

R - love the R its fine maybe more dmg.

these are some ideas to buff

6 Comments

OatheSworn4/20/2018, 10:14:46 AM2 votes

The things you listed above would make him completely broken.

Garen would become a monster with: a ton of health (Build) + high regeneration rate (P) + high armor (Build)+ a silence (Q) + movement speed boost (Q) + slow remover (Q) + a stun (Q)+ a HUGE amount of tenacity (W) + a TON of % damage reduction (W) + a shield on top of all this (W) + an AoE fear (E) + EVEN MORE DAMAGE ON HIS ULTIMATE (R).

Essentially he would become an extremely tanky, high damage champion with so much resistance to everything including CC that he would basically be able to 1 v 5 late game just by flashing into a clump and pressing E which would apply a fear to everyone surrounding him and if that wasn't enough, he would gain a shield on top of the % damage reduction already gained from the normal W AND if even this was too small for you, he has the ability to STUN now. His silence is already annoying but now that silence can STUN. To put a cherry on top of the already so sweet cake, his ultimate does even MORE damage on top of the high damage it already does against low health champions AND the true damage it deals against villains. To put another cherry on top of the cherry which is on top of the already so sweet cake, his laning phase will be broken. His passive already healed loads but now its doubled. So basically he can go in, stun+silence someone, deal damage with E while applying a fear (all this CC would leave the enemy helpless but to just stand there and take it) and after all that just walk out while taking little to no damage because of his W which would give him a shield on top of % damage reduction and tenacity. If he does somehow take some hits, he can sit under tower, think about life while his health just springs back up and go rinse and repeat.

Are you sure you've thought this through? Because when listed out like this, Garen instantly becomes a god. Think about your proposal a little bit more because I don't even play Garen a lot and this kind of buff already sounds insane.

Ranmaru4/19/2018, 11:34:46 PM1 votes

Garen isnt necassarily that weak right now maybe if they buffed his e to deal a bit more damage or remove the passive making it deal less daamage more enemys near

Baron Von Garen4/19/2018, 11:36:03 PM1 votes

I really don't know if you're memeing or not, and although Garen needs something to help him out, these are all really crazy and over-the-top ideas. I'm also assuming you have never played Garen since his passive goes on a 9 sec cooldown, not 6.

redniwediS4/20/2018, 12:24:13 AM1 votes

Yes Garen needs a little help, but these changes would make him the target of immediate nerfs. Garen doesn't need hard CC or a shield of any sort, he needs little changes here and there that make him easier to use as a skilled player, rather than just easier to play overall.

I've been playing Garen since I started back in season one, and I'd much rather have small quality of life changes than another rework. Garen definitely needs some help, but he doesn't feel like he is too far off the mark Riot should be aiming for.

DarwinTheory4/20/2018, 8:59:16 AM1 votes

Garen needs a buff but he won't get one because RIOT games just don't give a f*CK about him and are too prideful to admit their juggernaut rework was a collosal failure for him. I just wish Garen mains on Reddit would be more vocal then they'd bloody listen!

Meanwhile champs like Irelia and Chogath run around stunning and 2 shotting people. Had a game where I destroyed this Irelia, got two top towers, a great lead. She starts roaming dashing and install gibbing my team mates ends up with 17 odd kills. And I only beat her by playing super strategically around her mistakes.

The whole "A buff to Garen would make him more OP in low elo" is bullshit because if he stomps low elo without a buff he'll still stomp it with a buff won't he?????? NO CHANGE.

Only difference is he'll be more viable high elo. See how that works????? Logic.

DarwinTheory4/20/2018, 2:09:26 PM1 votes

The problem is Garen doesn't even get a disadvantage Vs his counters, he plain gets bullied by them in this damage meta.

Darius Renekton Jayce Keenen Teemo Urgot Chogath Ornn Illaoi Trynd

And that's not including cheese Vayne or Quinn.

Against any of these guys you even try and last hit you're chuncked for most of your health. It's not even close. You're not even laning to farm you're laning to SURVIVE.

Garen. Whose theme is to be a tanky bruiser standing toe to toe with evildoers is relegated to last hitting and using his Q to offset offensive enemy attacks before too much damage is taken and praying the game lasts more than 25 minutes for him to be tanky enough to do anything viable.

Just revert the f*cking juggernaut BS rework.