The fourth (and fifth) darkin

Arderick·Nov 25, 2019·1 votes·1,349 views

Thanks for coming, this isn't a direct "champion creation", it's more an idea for Riot to implement, I don't know if they did this on purpose or what but... Are the darkin the horsemen of apocalypse? I mean, there is Aatrox, as War, with a Greatsword, living constantly in the battlefield and, if he die, another will find the sword and he will be back again. Next is Varus, as Conquest, with a Bow, "born" from an invasion, a conquest, and seeking revenge. The last one is Rhaast, as Death, with a Scythe as weapon (as representation of Death), born from killing an assassin who could kill him definitely, death everywere. So, should be a fourth darkin, as Famine, maybe a mid or support, an AP caster of sort, and, to have all positions covered, a fifth, Pestilence, as the remaining position, so you can have a full Darkin team.

Thoughts about this? Will riot think about this (if they read this)?

6 Comments

arowin242Nov 25, 20193 votes

Trough Varus' story (the one where he went to Shurima) it is already confirmed that the fourth darkin (his 'sister') is loose. she appears to have been locked on a dark room under the sands of the desert ever since the darkin war.

but this darkin (presumed to be valeeva from the stories) has already escaped her confinement: the city was being excavated and more than likely some poor fool stumbled upon her, thinking he/she could wield her. (and got possesed ofc.)

The fifth darkin however? i have no idea.

ArderickNov 25, 20191 votes

Welp, each darkin has a different approach to the host (in game, I mean), Varus kept both of them, Aatrox directly take control of the host, Rhaast its there trying to take control of Kayn... Maybe the fourth has a different relationship? something like she keep being a weapon because she fell in love with the host and have shared abilities (something like Q and E are from the host and W and passive are hers, with the R being a combination of both or something) That should be an interesting approach. It could be that the roles got switched, she kept the body, but the host, somehow, got the weapon, or is in there, somewhere, bound to her.

arowin242Nov 25, 20192 votes

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Welp, each darkin has a different approach to the host (in game, I mean), Varus kept both of them, Aatrox directly take control of the host, Rhaast its there trying to take control of Kayn... Maybe the fourth has a different relationship? something like she keep being a weapon because she fell in love with the host and have shared abilities (something like Q and E are from the host and W and passive are hers, with the R being a combination of both or something) That should be an interesting approach. It could be that the roles got switched, she kept the body, but the host, somehow, got the weapon, or is in there, somewhere, bound to her.

as far as story is concerned both Varus (should be V A A R U S !) is trying to take full control over Valmar and Kai, and Rhaast is trying the exact same thing with Kayn (a bit more difficult due to Kayn's own mental strength) they both share something in this regard:

they are inexperienced.

Aatrox has been corrupting and possessing humans for Centuries, if not millennia by now: taking over a host is child's play for him, adding more flesh to become a mountain-size takes but a few battles, this is mostly tough due to Aatrox's imperfect imprisonment: he corrupted his first host most likely a couple of hundred years after the darkin war (we cant be sure tough)

(tough i like to believe that the humans barely knew what they where doing, imprisoning the darkin. Wielding targonian magic and all that. and probably still knew very little at the end.)

As for (possibly) Valeeva? no idea, again the city was being excavated when Varus finally got there: Valeeva is probably long-gone and probably has taken over her host by this point ( Valmar and Kai resist using their love for each other, Kayn is mentally strong). also do not forget that most Darkin either look down on humans (Aatrox sees them as flesh-bags) and other out-right hate them (Varus HATES humans)

as for the possesion swapping around? no chance. once a darkin posseses their host completely the host dies. if a human purges the darkin's power and claims it for him/her self then the darkin dies (difficult tough, most Darkin are over 4000 years old and posses a lot of willpower thanks to that.) despite that, those people do not live forever: otherwise users of darkin weapons during the darkin wars would still be around.

ArderickNov 25, 20191 votes

Interesting, and thanks for sharing your knowledge and answering, but well, as you said, most darkin either look down or hates humans, but LoL have a lore of exceptions (I mean, it would be pretty boring if everyone was the same), maybe imprisionment has changed Valeeva, maybe she was imprisioned with a host and, without nothing better to do, just spoke with him/her to make to make him/her surrender, and was amazed, there are so many possibilities, and yes, maybe the dont live forever, but an extasis chamber-magic to take her out could be possible (or not, I dont know), anyway, thats just ideas of how could it work for that being different, of course she could be just another human hating darkin as her brothers, but ideas are always welcome and fun to hear.

And, for the name game, Vaaleva or Valevaa and Vaarus, but well, what can one do about names?

What would you do to make her a bit different from the others? Or a lot different, if you want, any idea?

arowin242Nov 25, 20192 votes

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Interesting, and thanks for sharing your knowledge and answering, but well, as you said, most darkin either look down or hates humans, but LoL have a lore of exceptions (I mean, it would be pretty boring if everyone was the same), maybe imprisionment has changed Valeeva, maybe she was imprisioned with a host and, without nothing better to do, just spoke with him/her to make to make him/her surrender, and was amazed, there are so many possibilities, and yes, maybe the dont live forever, but an extasis chamber-magic to take her out could be possible (or not, I dont know), anyway, thats just ideas of how could it work for that being different, of course she could be just another human hating darkin as her brothers, but ideas are always welcome and fun to hear.

And, for the name game, Vaaleva or Valevaa and Vaarus, but well, what can one do about names?

What would you do to make her a bit different from the others? Or a lot different, if you want, any idea?

no problem. and yeah, diversity is needed

as for what i would do differently: make the the fourth of fifth darkin an armour instead of a weapon (kinda like Warmogs, it protects you for a while, but once your done, who protects you from it?)

Darkin also don't like each other too much, they understand the necessity of staying together: they lost against the humans and the previous aspect of twilight because they where all split up.

whatever the case, we will first have to survive Aphelios' release... its not looking too good right now..

thanks for the conservation.

2G TRUCBIZZARDNov 26, 20192 votes

Hi summoner !

As you explained, the darkins may be from the myth of the Horsemen. Aatrox would symbolize War, Varus would be Conquest and Rhaast (Kayn) would be Death (also known as Pestilence, but Death fits Kayn better). I really like this theory because even the champions' colours respect the horses' colours: Red for War, white for Conquest and pale for Death.

As you mentioned, we could have a 4rth darkin empowering Famine, but we would have a problem with the 5th (even if Jax is sometimes considered a darkin, for some obscure reasons ... I don't believe he's one, but it is true that there is a Darkin's shape on his artwork coming from the lantern if you look well, but it seems to be Aatrox ... this is another subject). Here is the link for Jax's image with a darkin's shadow:

https://gfycat.com/fr/oblongtighteidolonhelvum

As people mentioned earlier,we could think of a whole team composed of Darkins, and I actually had this idea too ^^' I already created an AD darkin mdilaner, playing around being Famine (and killing people by starvation). First, I wanted to make a support that would eat people but ... well ... there is already one with big Tahm Kench !

And for the 5th darkin, I already read that Warmog itself was a darkin, but I actually disagree, since we have no clue about it, but that the armor is a living armor. I also read that Nautilus could be some kind of Darkin, because he was possessed by something evil, but I don't think it was a darkin, it was probably Balck Mist.

Some far-fetched theories talk about twitch being Pestilence (but he is a rat -_-), or Kindred being the 5th darkin, because Lamb would be referring to the Lamb of God. Moreover, Kindred symbolizes the end of life, it is an etheric being, which could correspond to the 5th darkin, the master of Death and empowered by the 666, the Devil. I like the idea, but I really don't believe Kindred is the 5th darkin: she is not as evil as the other darkins, and seems to bring death to those deserving it, not killing mercilessly as many people as possible. Another theory would be that Death Dance would be a Darkin, since it looks kinda like Kayn's scythe, but it is too far-fetched for me.

That is all for me, from what I read obout this subject :) I hope it pleases you guys !

Good luck in the Fields of Justice !