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ModWulf Helhammer13 votes

ahem Boobs.

(Come on we were all thinking it)

ChemicalBuster6 votes

nah i was thinking of hips.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

I will agree that those also came into mind

Busty Demoness1 votes

It's both.

IkarosGamma1 votes

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) you're right.

Sraeg20131 votes

No, not really.

At first I noticed the face (because the top of the image is pretty done, not so much going on lower) and what appeared to be a mix between a smug and a happy face.

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/date-a-live/images/f/f8/Kurumi_smile.png

Than I realized OP already drew lower eyelids.

Wifu Pillow5 votes

THICC

IkarosGamma1 votes

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BLACK REALM GOD4 votes

it looks great. you might have gotten a bit carried away with the hips though.

Sraeg20131 votes

Perspective.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

nah. even with a ground angle it's still off. hips dont get wider from the ground. they get shorter. looking down from the sky is the same way. from a direct side view it's off.

IkarosGamma1 votes

I will fix it as I go on to the next stages.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

it's fine as is. unless you really want to make it thinner. i think adjusting it would ruin the image. in the future though i would consider planning the composition out.

TheMoralSupport1 votes

Its an interpretation which has carried over the artists personal style.. It's a stylistic approach, not a realistic...

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

no. the artist worked from the top of the page and ran out of room at the bottom of the page so they squatted in the hips. it's not a stylistic approach. it's an effect caused by not planning out the angles and dimensions just the same as when someone is making a poster for an event and the front of the poster looks like

"WELCome TO OUR EV ENT"

i had a more in depth explanation, but i accidentally thumbed my cursor pad and hit back causing the page to go back and erase my typed out message.

even the yellow nametag guy captain marvelous agrees with my analysis.

TheMoralSupport1 votes

First of all, your conclusion that the artist squashed the hips is completely irrelevant, since they cropped it either way. I'd agree with you if it was a full-body image, and if the proportions actually looked unbalanced. But since it's not, you can tell that it was a stylistic choice rather than than a flaw in the composition. You're basically saying "I want it to be more elongated, so the fact that it has different proportions from the Morgana released by Riot must be a flaw".

Secondly, assuming that the artist just messed up with the pose and pre-planning of the piece is incredibly disrespectful, especially when you have 0 basis to that argument more than the proportions not being to your liking. The accentuated proportions are fine. It define the artists style and it gives the character a new interpretation as well as readability by changing up the shape language. If you're truly interested in art you need be open to different approaches and multiple ways of expressing something. Not play down something/someone because it/their art doesn't suit your taste...

Edit: Btw, the composition is great as the line of action (gesture line?) draws attention to the face.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

im not continuing this discussion with someone as pompous as you are about a drawing that isnt even your own. what are you the OP's net boyfriend?

good criticism is good criticism. you can still see the lines from where the image was adjusted and squatted. you have less basis to assume that it's a stylistic approach because that's 100% assumption. at least i can point to lines and use those for inferences into how the image has been processed over time by the artist. thicker and darker lines especially in ink art are used to cover up mistakes and to draw the eye towards empty space. you can clearly see those types of lines in the hip and chest area. then there are the approximation lines where the artist is unsure of whether or not they're making a rounded enough curve or long enough line. those are all over the hips and boobs. so regardless of how much you dislike the idea that your sweet and wonderful OP is perfect in every way they've clearly made a simple mistake and have adjusted their artwork to look great even though it's disproportionate. calling it a stylistic approach is what's really disrespectful to an artist because you're not even trying to acknowledge the fact that they worked so hard to correct their mistakes. you're just shuffling it under the rug and patting them on the head like anyone could have made that decision when in most cases the paper would have been tossed to hide the mistakes. art appreciation is more than just a simple pat on the head.

IkarosGamma1 votes

I appreciate your criticism. It is duely noted to me. Please bear in mind as I've stated before in other replies but this is a work in progress. The inking is weaker around the body because I'm still moving throught the entire image adding refinement to it. I will take into account what you have said and make the image a little more compositionally coherent if what I've done stylistically detracts too much from the piece itself. Again, thank you for the feedback and I will continue to make the piece better as time goes on.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

this piece is fine. i wouldnt try to adjust it at this point. just consider planning your approach more on your next piece of artwork. i've read a few of the other comments and im not the only one who has noticed it. as i've stated it above it shows how much effort you've put into using the space on the page and that's the true signs of a naturally talented artist. being able to draw without planning is a gift.

IkarosGamma1 votes

Thank you. Fixing the compostion should really be that hard for this piece. A little liquify in photoshop and some compositon checking should do the trick. In the next piece I do I will take some planning into account.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

you have a lot of photoshop skills too then i assume? to talk about it as if it's that simple you definitely must have a bit of confidence in your abilities. good for you. i would save both pieces of artwork and work on them separately to see how both turn out. then you could compare. sounds like a great way to find out what works best for you.

Fondling Gems3 votes

Very nice, I can't wait to see the finished piece!

IkarosGamma1 votes

Neither can I.

Drakun LCS3 votes

she looks too fat imo

Sraeg20131 votes

Her ribs are showing, lol.

IkarosGamma3 votes

different strokes for different folks. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Sraeg20131 votes

Hehe. "Strokes".

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PS. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Use 3 "" for the left arm to make it work properly.

Arakadia2 votes

Really cool drawing, love the feathers, but those hips are those of a Camille who's given way too much birth.

Sraeg20131 votes

Camille's hips are made out of steel though.

Rokkitt2 votes

I like the hips alot. Makes her feel more filled out giving her a feeling that shes not the most agile champ. Liked the way you filled up the wings too & made them bigger. I never liked her vanilla wings cuz they just didn't stand out.

IkarosGamma1 votes

Thank you. Compositionally I changed the wings so that all 4 corners of the piece had something touching them so that it didn't feel so spacious.

TheFancySkeleton1 votes

Seeing all the art that people make for League, it makes me feel inferior!

Good job! c:

IkarosGamma2 votes

Honestly though... same.

Dataless1 votes

The arms could use some work in terms of positioning, but your attention to detail on the hair and wings is very good.

IkarosGamma1 votes

I will work on much more as I move into the next stages of my process but this drawing is merely the inks so that I know where things are and how much details I should add in terms of contrast.

DariusDemiurge1 votes

Forgot to say love the details. Her face seems a little short, hands seem a little large. Might be do to one another.

Again love the freaking wings and hair.

IkarosGamma1 votes

Thanks. Yeah I was streaming the process of making the piece. The wings I did on stream and it took like 3 hours. The hair I did in my freetime. The rest is a work in progress I posted this here to try and get some feedback. I will take them all into consideration and fix things that are incorrect.

TheMoralSupport1 votes

In my opinion, the proportions are fine. They define your style and gives the character a new interpretation. The way you're using shape language to change the vibe of the piece is awesome.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

That's pretty good!

Although the wings vs. her body is a bit of a stark contrast (The wings look hyper-detailed but her body seems kinda cartoony!)

IkarosGamma1 votes

I'm still going to overpaint and even MORE ink refinement. The inks aren't done yet but I wanted some feedback on the inks and all the feedback is definitly well accepted by me.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Good shit dude! Can't wait to see.

TheMoralSupport1 votes

I kinda like the contrast, where the artists really plays and accentuates the different textures. Although it lacks slight harmony in the composition, I love the contrasting textures!

VelvetCrotch1 votes

noce belly ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ). the face doesnt fit to her body sry. and she looks too happy. did u copy the body and drew the face and wings? cause the artstyle is soo different.

IkarosGamma1 votes

The face is missing some depth that will be resolved after I go to the overpainting phase. Thanks for letting me know how noticible it is I'll definitly work on it. :)

IkarosGamma2 votes

I tried to make the face a little more lighthearted and cartoony whist keeping the realistic nature of the body to provide more of a characteristic contrast in the piece. It seems however that it's detracting and being misconstrud. From the feed back I was getting I'll try to either make the body more cartoony to match the face or make the face more relistically rendered to match the body. If I do both I'll post both. Thanks for the feedback.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

thx for this clarification and your effort. :) sry to hear that it was on purpose how u draw it. :( but if u give it a new try, i am sure it will look cool. ;)

IIlavalII1 votes

that arm it looks like shes bending it backwards tbh

IkarosGamma1 votes

I will adress this as I move to different segments of my process. It should be an easy fix. Thanks for the feedback.

Jayce Top1 votes

She fat

IkarosGamma1 votes

Noted.

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