Skin Idea for shadow isles champs

Sailor Pluto9·Sep 8, 2016·20 votes·1,072 views

It dawned on me how cool it would be to have skins for the shadow isles champs like how they would look like pre-shadow isles. Think Pre-void Kassadin but with this concept for say Karth, Hec, Kalista, Thresh, etc

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TormentulaSep 8, 20164 votes

Mistress Elise? http://i.imgur.com/q6CAvBi.gif

Poisoned hag Elise? http://media.tenor.co/images/7c9842f2923762dc4237c6523dd4f1a9/raw

Sailor Pluto9Sep 8, 20161 votes

I thought elise only visited once a year and not actually resides there

TormentulaSep 8, 20161 votes

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I thought elise only visited once a year and not actually resides there

I didn't quite understand what her position was, but she was there to represent beauty in noxus and she married so she could gain more power. Atleast that's how I read it.

AllvandorSep 9, 20161 votes

She's tied to the Shadow Isles now because she relies on the Spider God that lives there to revitalize her when she begins to age, as she is kept youthful and beautiful by a combination of the dagger she was looking for the Spider God's own power. In exchange for the Spider God keeping her young and beautiful, she lures sacrifices to it which she obtains from the Black Rose in exchange for artifacts from the Shadow Isles, which she can collect because being imbued with some of the Spider God's power grants her an amount of protection on the Shadow Isles. Essentially, she's like the middle (wo)man between the Shadow Isles and the Black Rose as she can move in both circles and isn't entirely loyal to one or the other as she relies on both, the Black Rose for the sacrifices and the Spider God for the power, and forms a bridge, so to speak. Effectively, the Black Rose is trading (some of) its members for powerful artifacts, and the Spider God is allowing the artifacts to be taken (somewhat indirectly) for sacrifices and Elise is the middle (wo)man who enables the transaction by bring the sacrifices to the Spider God and the artifacts to the Black Rose while she simultaneously profits by directly benefitting from the Spider God's power, while the Black Rose are just an easy and convenient way to obtain the sacrifices she needs to bring.

TormentulaSep 9, 20161 votes

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She's tied to the Shadow Isles now because she relies on the Spider God that lives there to revitalize her when she begins to age, as she is kept youthful and beautiful by a combination of the dagger she was looking for the Spider God's own power. In exchange for the Spider God keeping her young and beautiful, she lures sacrifices to it which she obtains from the Black Rose in exchange for artifacts from the Shadow Isles, which she can collect because being imbued with some of the Spider God's power grants her an amount of protection on the Shadow Isles. Essentially, she's like the middle (wo)man between the Shadow Isles and the Black Rose as she can move in both circles and isn't entirely loyal to one or the other as she relies on both, the Black Rose for the sacrifices and the Spider God for the power, and forms a bridge, so to speak. Effectively, the Black Rose is trading (some of) its members for powerful artifacts, and the Spider God is allowing the artifacts to be taken (somewhat indirectly) for sacrifices and Elise is the middle (wo)man who enables the transaction by bring the sacrifices to the Spider God and the artifacts to the Black Rose while she simultaneously profits by directly benefitting from the Spider God's power, while the Black Rose are just an easy and convenient way to obtain the sacrifices she needs to bring.

I didn't mean post black rose, I meant before her poison, marriage, etc. I didn't quite catch if Elise was royality of Noxus and then took over when married, or if she wasn't powerful at all and just an adverage person with link to royality, only gaining it with the marriage.

AllvandorSep 9, 20161 votes

Ohhhh, my mistake, sorry, but yes, she was Noxxian nobility, as in she was part of a distinguished family which wielded a good deal of influence, and then she married into an even more influential house. Since Noxus doesn't have a king, and instead they have the High Command headed by the Grand General, they don't seem to have noble titles like 'Duke' or 'Baron' and instead have families with varying degrees of influence. If you're familiar with Dungeons and Dragons at all I'd say Noxus is set up similarly to the Drow of Menzoberranzan where you have Houses where families exert control and influence by their merits and obtain higher status by orchestrating the downfall of other families. In a contemporary sense, it would be like if one of the Obama daughters married a Kennedy, so you'd have a member of an influential family marrying into an older, more influential family. I think I'm probably explaining this poorly, but, to recap; Yes, Elise was a member of the Noxxian nobility who came from a powerful family and she married into an even more powerful family.

TormentulaSep 9, 20161 votes

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Ohhhh, my mistake, sorry, but yes, she was Noxxian nobility, as in she was part of a distinguished family which wielded a good deal of influence, and then she married into an even more influential house. Since Noxus doesn't have a king, and instead they have the High Command headed by the Grand General, they don't seem to have noble titles like 'Duke' or 'Baron' and instead have families with varying degrees of influence. If you're familiar with Dungeons and Dragons at all I'd say Noxus is set up similarly to the Drow of Menzoberranzan where you have Houses where families exert control and influence by their merits and obtain higher status by orchestrating the downfall of other families. In a contemporary sense, it would be like if one of the Obama daughters married a Kennedy, so you'd have a member of an influential family marrying into an older, more influential family. I think I'm probably explaining this poorly, but, to recap; Yes, Elise was a member of the Noxxian nobility who came from a powerful family and she married into an even more powerful family.

That clears it up!

Thanks! [slayer-jinx-catface]

DrugothSep 9, 20163 votes

A Blessed isles version of Yorick would be super cool! It would have to be an ultimate skin though. His VO could be completely changed and it would be so cool to see what he was like before he had the burden he carries today.

Edit: I just realized it wouldn't work because his entire kit didn't exist back then... :(

Sailor Pluto9Sep 9, 20161 votes

It could still work...hed just be a happier grave digger lol

Leona is WaifuSep 9, 20161 votes

Pre-corruption Hec would be pretty hard to do, while also keeping his silhouette intact. Kalista would be really cool though

Sailor Pluto9Sep 9, 20161 votes

I mean i dont think theyd have to do much for hec unless they want to get fancy. Like a warlord on his horse and trademark spear/haliburt

Leona is WaifuSep 9, 20161 votes

But unless they removed the horses head, it'd look different than hec, at least imo. They could probably do it (skins team is awesome) but it'd take some doin'

AllvandorSep 9, 20161 votes

I think they'd probably have to keep the Centaur aspect, but visually make him look more heroic and less undead— just because having the horse's head and Hec's torso centered on the horse would probably mess with his hit box by either adding an extra area that would count as a hit, or by having a decidedly solid looking part of the model that couldn't be hit. I'd see it probably being more like Justicar Syndra or Matrox, where the look of the champion wouldn't change, but the color palette and particles would take on a more light-themed aspect. Also how with Syndra her skin tone became more natural and peachier in the skin, I'd imagine the same with Hecarim.

Sailor Pluto9Sep 9, 20161 votes

I dont think the hitbox would necessarily change with the addition of the horses head. if i recall correctly, they did something with Aurelion Sol where the end of his tail wasnt part of his hitbox so they could do that

AllvandorSep 9, 20162 votes

The horse's head wouldn't be the problem, I don't think, it would be Hecarim's body, because if you place him on the horse, like a rider would be, you'd have to add a hitbox to where there is currently nothing, and you couldn't keep Hecarim's torso where it is and simply tack the horse's head on the front and not include it in the hitbox, because no one rides a horse that closely up against the neck and it would look quite odd. You'd have to add a rider in the center of Hecarim's model which current is empty space.

Looking at his model though I'm wondering if the area I'm thinking about might not already be coded as a hitbox, as personally I'm not intimately familiar with Hecarim's dimensions in game. If they could find a way to make it work that would be great, but I still think that they could run into problems.

VivaLaKittenSep 9, 20161 votes

Kalista, wouldn't look much different Hecarim would need a complete new structure Thresh would be interesting Karthus, . . . idk a pre dead Karthus wouldn't seem right