For Rengar's rework, if he gets one, But mainly his Ultimate

Jack of Storms··2 votes·1,010 views

So I was thinking a while back, and it seems like Rengar may be reworked a bit later this year. And it seems likely that most of it will focus on his ult, since the use of stealth can be really unfair, especially since it provides Rengar such a virtually unstoppable initiation. So, I came up with a possible replacement, that I think may be more fair and still maintain the essence of Rengar, possibly to a greater degree (tell me what you guys think, this is still pretty new, but I hope it gets considered)

So, essentially, my idea is to create an ult for Rengar that still allows him to do what he does now but without the unfairness that is inherent to stealth. This version is that, upon activation (possibly after a few seconds, like his current ult). He maintains the movement speed increase, and the ability to leap at enemies, but he doesn't have the invisibility anymore (the specific stats don't have to be the same though. What matters is the concepts) Now, more importantly, replacing Rengar's stealth would be the ability to climb and run along walls. Now, my idea was that upon casting his ult, he could climb up a nearby wall and run along it. When he's not on a wall his jump range is reduced below normal amounts (by like 50%, maybe?) unless he enters brush of course. When he's on a wall though, he has full leap range, maybe a little extra movespeed, and the ability to leap to walls within that range. All in all, this would allow him to move deep into enemy lines and take out that high priority target. And I mean, wouldn't it be epic to chase someone along walls, leaping from side to side before the ambush? This should also work on player made walls and it would interact with Rengar's passive well too.

But it also has counter play, luckily. When Rengar is on a wall, the enemy team has vision of him as long as they have vision of either side of the wall. If Rengar wishes to be concealed, he'll have to make his leaps over walls that conceal him, or from walls that are hidden behind brush. In addition, his ult will still have a limited amount of time, after which he'll fall off the wall. Also, if he is hit by an enemy champion or a turret, he'll be knocked off the wall into the far side, allowing enemies to try and keep him at bay. If he still has time, though, Rengar may then climb up another wall from brush (this way he can't just get back up immediately, and is hindered by a weaker form of his ult, but he isn't also rendered useless in one hit). As a side note, generating ferocity stacks and movespeed after his ult may be maintained too. It's just the stealth that gets reworked.

So, what do you all think?

8 Comments

Tamur2 votes

since the use of stealth can be really unfair

This this why we have wards, trinkets, and potions that allow you to see stealthed champions.

Jack of Storms1 votes

When I say stealth is unfair, I'm taking that from riot itself. One of the problems with stealth is that pretty much the only counter is to spend money on buying wards and stuff, and when you do it'll often render the stealthed champion a bit useless. Riot has stated, I'm pretty sure, that they prefer to make fights come down most to skill, not yo whether or not you bought a pink ward. Also, it rarely feels very fair to be ambushed by a Rengar and killed in like two or three hits because you stepped a little too far from your tower (or not even too far).

Tamur1 votes

Also, it rarely feels very fair to be ambushed by a Rengar and killed in like two or three hits because you stepped a little too far from your tower (or not even too far).

If you get ambushed by most champions your dead in three or less hits.

Veigar and Nasus if played right can one shot kill.

Ryze if you don't him shut down early will nuke you and your team while having little to no damage taken from him.

Jack of Storms1 votes

But the difference here is that, the only way to be ambushed by those champions is for them to hide in brush or around a corner or something of that sort, which you as the player can cautiously avoid or use some sort of strategy to go around or exploit it. Rengar can ambush you from literally anywhere, and there's nothing real strategic you can do except run for cover and hope he's not already there. The problem isn't that Rengar can assassinate you. He's an assassin, that's what he does. The problem is that it's too easy for him to get to you, and far too hard for you to do something about it

FACE THE WlND1 votes

This is awful.

Jack of Storms1 votes

I am look for constructive criticism, that doesn't really help

Madiqis Aard2 votes

Well, Rengar isn't exactly a parkour kinda lion. He's a hunter, and a very successful one. The surprise part of his kit is necessary, as he wouldn't be much of a hunter if his prey could buy Rengar repellent and prepare.

Jack of Storms1 votes

Well I understand what you mean, and I never necessarily meant to say this version was a perfect replacement (though honestly, i think it sounds like it'd be fun as hell in game). In terms of his being a hunter, stalking your pray from the walls to me feels more like actual stalking, although I guess it's a little ninja like too. It would certainly feel a bit more terrifying for the enemy, since no wall will keep Rengar away. Ground targeted spells probably wouldn't hit, either. And in terms of "Rengar repellant" keep in mind that Rengar's leap range is pretty large, especially when you increase it through bonetooth necklace stacks. Not only could you probably leap over walls that block their vision of you (or quickly to the wall nearest them before jumping to them) but you can jump from far enough away that they couldn't merely attach you and hitting you with a skillshot would be difficult. And once you've jumped to them none of that matters anyway. Also, I imagined the movement speed boost would be great enough to allow him to seemingly come from nowhere and catch people by surprise that way. On that note, the surprise of current Rengar is generally "oh look. I'm dead" and that is a bit shitty

More from Concepts & Creations

More by Jack of Storms