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Fear Popo14 votes

Needs more cowbell.

Heckin Support4 votes

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Needs more cowbell.

I'd actually like a Rek' Sai screech from the distance.

For real though A+ on the video Krale

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Needs more Alistar

Fear Popo2 votes

Much appreciated.

AngryVegetables97 votes

If you're the actual creator then props! Sounds great! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Mein Kong6 votes

I am!

D rok2 votes

Great job. I've listened to some of your other pieces as well. You have a lot of talent.

My only suggestion would be breaking out of your comfort zone a bit with the 16th notes. This has more the pacing of a Demacian anthem. The first 20 seconds or so was BEAUTIFUL, and I think you should have the confidence to run with that sort of slower theme.

Great work. :)

Sassmast3r7 votes

Oh my god Krale you're back! I was wondering what happened to you after the masterpieces that were the Leona and Diana songs! Welcome back!!

I really love this Lissandra one though, has a sort of eerie feel to it, while still sounding happy, sort of like the duplicity Lissandra has/shows. Well done man, hope you continue making more :0

P.S. - If you still take votes on what to make next, I wouldn't mind a Karma composition made ;)

Nagma3 votes

Epic , but im a bit dissapointed because it doesnt fit well with lissandra's themes : ice , evil .

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Epic , but im a bit dissapointed because it doesnt fit well with lissandra's themes : ice , evil .

well technically Lissandra isnt evil. what she feels she is doing is Just and Correct. id suggest reading the JoJ and all the background lore Riot used to do and ignore the retcon

Paletongue7 votes

Technically, the JoJ was cancelled long before Lissandra came out. You just want to look at her release lore, such as Quinn's journal.

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Technically, the JoJ was cancelled long before Lissandra came out. You just want to look at her release lore, such as Quinn's journal.

even though it was canceled they have a lot of stuff relating to the watchers in it. There is a lot of background for several big areas in the JoJ. so look everywhere

Paletongue1 votes

You got me there, Lissandra is talked about in issues 2 and 3.

YoloYordle3332 votes

hitler thought what he was doing was just and correct...

revliledpembroke1 votes

Yes, because making a bargain with extraplanar beings that grant unnatural powers and extremely long lifespans (if she's not outright immortal) in exchange for complete totalitarian rule and the annihilation of freedom is totally something a non-evil being would do.

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Yes, because making a bargain with extraplanar beings that grant unnatural powers and extremely long lifespans (if she's not outright immortal) in exchange for complete totalitarian rule and the annihilation of freedom is totally something a non-evil being would do.

You do seem to forget that Lissandra and Anivia are "daughters" / "servants" of the watchers but anivia broke free and created a war

revliledpembroke1 votes

You seem to forget that it was a war instigated by two of the three siblings (the others being the Avarosan and the Winter's Claw....eventually). And they fought for freedom. And Lissandra's lore hardly makes her sound like she is cuddling bunnies and donating to charity in her spare time.

Lissandra's magic twists the pure power of ice into something dark and terrible. With the force of her black ice, she does more than freeze – she impales and crushes those who oppose her. To the terrified denizens of the north, she is known only as "The Ice Witch". The truth is much more sinister: Lissandra is a corrupter of nature who plots to unleash an ice age on the world. Centuries ago, Lissandra betrayed her tribe to evil creatures, known as the Frozen Watchers, in return for power. That was the last day that warm blood ran through her veins. With her corrupted tribesmen and the strength of the Watchers, she swept across the land like a terrible blizzard. As her empire spread, the world grew colder and ice choked the land. When the Watchers were defeated by ancient heroes, Lissandra did not lose faith and swore to prepare the world for their return

Yeah.....totally the spirit of kindness there. What the hell else would she be other than evil?

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You seem to forget that it was a war instigated by two of the three siblings (the others being the Avarosan and the Winter's Claw....eventually). And they fought for freedom. And Lissandra's lore hardly makes her sound like she is cuddling bunnies and donating to charity in her spare time.

Yeah.....totally the spirit of kindness there. What the hell else would she be other than evil?

While i did not say she is the spirit of kindness, in the JoJ it states that she has agreed to a united freljord with ashe as the ruler. Without a proper lore however we cannot even hope to delve into the wealth of knowledge and what was meant to become of the watchers before they were thrown into the howling abyss. There can only be speculation and theories and until there is new lore everything that relates to the league in the lore is gone for good. Also, bringing in "spirit of kindess" kinda has nothing to do with my original comment. I was defending the softer notes of the piece and the majesty it sprung forth in the minds of musicians like myself. without actually saying it :P

"The Watchers origins are unknown, as Lissandra, the only living Iceborn states even she does not know where they came from. The Watchers were immensely powerful, and transformed humans of the Freljord into the immortal Iceborn. The Iceborn were given great gifts, magic and immortality in return for their eternal loyalty. They conquered for The Watchers and built them a great civilisation, including the bridge and fortress looming over the Howling Abyss, which eventually amassed in to an enormous empire. Their mouth piece was the Seeker, Lissandra , who was, and still is fervently loyal to them." We do not know if the watchers were inherently evil. For all we know Avarosa and her sister were the evils ones and that because they won the war they changed history and Lissandra is just trying to bring back her race of IceBorn. Until more lore is created we shall not know

revliledpembroke1 votes

She agreed to Ashe because she was in her role as the leader of the peaceful, yet still fierce, tribe that Nunu comes from. That princess would agree to an alliance, and thus so does Lissandra. Lissandra only agreed to it so she could keep her true identity secret and usurp the throne. Clearly you don't know how bad guy-ing works.

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She agreed to Ashe because she was in her role as the leader of the peaceful, yet still fierce, tribe that Nunu comes from. That princess would agree to an alliance, and thus so does Lissandra. Lissandra only agreed to it so she could keep her true identity secret and usurp the throne. Clearly you don't know how bad guy-ing works.

oooh now heres the thing. You didnt even go into the rest of my comment. care to elaborate one where im wrong there? what if Lissandra isnt the bad guy? What if lissandra is only portrayed that way because the Iceborn LOST the war. Please reply to the entire comment instead of just sections

revliledpembroke1 votes

But Lissandra is the bad guy because the mostly impartial lore describes her as BETRAYING HER TRIBE. That makes her bad. We still don't like Benedict Arnold 240 years later because he was a traitor. Lissandra is the same, but it's more like 1000 years later and she's immortal.

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But Lissandra is the bad guy because the mostly impartial lore describes her as BETRAYING HER TRIBE. That makes her bad. We still don't like Benedict Arnold 240 years later because he was a traitor. Lissandra is the same, but it's more like 1000 years later and she's immortal.

Lissandra isnt truly apart of that tribe because she is Iceborn first and foremost. Second, Look in canadian history. we have a holiday for a traitor. So not all traitors are bad.

revliledpembroke1 votes

Ummm.....she was a mortal sibling of Ashe's and Sejuani's ancestors. Then she betrayed her tribe to the EVIL BEINGS known as the Frozen Watchers and became Iceborn. And England has Guy Fawkes Day (who tried to blow up Parliament) and technically speaking my own country's Founding Fathers were traitors to their government at the time. There is, however, a difference for rising against abuse of power and betraying your tribe to a race of_ evil beings _so you can be granted immortality and power. The other Iceborn, including Ashe's and Sejuani's ancestors, eventually rose up against the abuses of power inflicted upon them by the Frozen Watchers and threw them, howling, into the abyss. The ghost shopkeeper in ARAM makes that perfectly clear. Greyor has two lines about freedom, one of which has him shouting it like Mel Gibson's version of William Wallace, and the other says "Freedom is worth dying for." He has four more quotes that explain what happened. "We were human once, then the Watchers came. They changed us, forged us into weapons, made us Iceborn." "We served the Watchers willingly; the Lissandra Seeker was their voice. She told us their desires, what to build, and who to kill." "We took Freljord! We took Valoran! Everywhere we went men trembled and the ice followed us. We forged a mighty empire, but it wasn't truly ours... so long as we served the Watchers." "Avarosa united us. She showed us that freedom was worth dying for. So we turned on the Watchers. We knew we were stronger than they were; they had given us too much power." And then the bit that gives the pit its name. He also has three lines for Lissandra herself. The first is "Seeker, you still live?" the second, "Who do you speak for - the Watchers or the Iceborn?" and the third, "What happened to Avarosa?" Greyor also has a line about the item 3191. It goes like this "The seeker was a respected leader of the Tribe, but some say she betrayed us..." Since the only lore remaining is Lissandra's (which explicitly mentions the evil beings bit) and what this shopkeeper says, I am more than willing to accept that Lissandra is evil. That whole "Turn the whole world to ice" thing guarantees it. C'mon, she is clearly Mr. Freeze. All she needs to do is say something in a stupid German accent like "Today Noxus. Tomorrow....THE WORLD!" and you'd be in a bad Batman movie.

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Ummm.....she was a mortal sibling of Ashe's and Sejuani's ancestors. Then she betrayed her tribe to the EVIL BEINGS known as the Frozen Watchers and became Iceborn. And England has Guy Fawkes Day (who tried to blow up Parliament) and technically speaking my own country's Founding Fathers were traitors to their government at the time. There is, however, a difference for rising against abuse of power and betraying your tribe to a race of_ evil beings _so you can be granted immortality and power. The other Iceborn, including Ashe's and Sejuani's ancestors, eventually rose up against the abuses of power inflicted upon them by the Frozen Watchers and threw them, howling, into the abyss. The ghost shopkeeper in ARAM makes that perfectly clear. Greyor has two lines about freedom, one of which has him shouting it like Mel Gibson's version of William Wallace, and the other says "Freedom is worth dying for." He has four more quotes that explain what happened. "We were human once, then the Watchers came. They changed us, forged us into weapons, made us Iceborn." "We served the Watchers willingly; the Lissandra Seeker was their voice. She told us their desires, what to build, and who to kill." "We took Freljord! We took Valoran! Everywhere we went men trembled and the ice followed us. We forged a mighty empire, but it wasn't truly ours... so long as we served the Watchers." "Avarosa united us. She showed us that freedom was worth dying for. So we turned on the Watchers. We knew we were stronger than they were; they had given us too much power." And then the bit that gives the pit its name. He also has three lines for Lissandra herself. The first is "Seeker, you still live?" the second, "Who do you speak for - the Watchers or the Iceborn?" and the third, "What happened to Avarosa?" Greyor also has a line about the item 3191. It goes like this "The seeker was a respected leader of the Tribe, but some say she betrayed us..." Since the only lore remaining is Lissandra's (which explicitly mentions the evil beings bit) and what this shopkeeper says, I am more than willing to accept that Lissandra is evil. That whole "Turn the whole world to ice" thing guarantees it. C'mon, she is clearly Mr. Freeze. All she needs to do is say something in a stupid German accent like "Today Noxus. Tomorrow....THE WORLD!" and you'd be in a bad Batman movie.

i now officially love you for the batman thing.

But aside form that, I do agree with you on everything. I honestly didnt wanna start a big argument over this. To me i feel that with the retcon a lot of the lore behind the watchers WILL change and they may or may not stay truly "evil". To be honest, there may be a chance that they thought they were doing the right thing. Look at Starcrafts Xel'Naga, they create infinite amounts of universes to keep the "cycle" going. But the main enemy in there wants to stop the cycle cause he believes he is doing the right thing. While you could compare amon to Lissandra in that since due to Amons way of handling it, I see the two as completely different settings and that lissandra feels she is doing the only thing she CAN do now that she is the last remaining Iceborn. As far as i see it, Lissandra isnt Inherently evil, but is still following the will of the watchers in an attempt to bring her "masters" back

revliledpembroke1 votes
  1. Yeah, put Lissandra and Zyra together and then it's definitely a Batman movie. Especially if you also have DrMundo (the closest thing to the Bane working with Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze).
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  1. Yeah, put Lissandra and Zyra together and then it's definitely a Batman movie. Especially if you also have DrMundo (the closest thing to the Bane working with Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze).

lol. I think Sion would make a better bane. though only cause he is born of blood and shit. though ive never seen the batman movie with bane ;3

revliledpembroke1 votes

He was basically a steroid filled rage machine more than anything else. It wasn't pretty. People who knew Bane to be articulate and fairly intelligent were kinda upset that the movie turned him into someone who could only say "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHH" and punch things, but what else do you expect from a Batman movie that had Alfred give his niece a leather suit with nipples? Stupid Bat-nipples.

BenParadox1 votes

Shouldn't Singed be Bane?

revliledpembroke1 votes

No, because Singed is able to talk coherently.

Catastrop3 votes

This totally sounds like it could play in the background for some sort of cinematic where the Sisters Trio Face off. On another note, it also has some parts that give off a tone of desperation, as if things aren't going as she planned and honestly, the imagery that comes to mind with it is just amazing. So yeah, this is just beautiful, easily evokes a myriad of feelings from the listeners.

AATTRROOXX2 votes

Despite the heat wave here in Michigan, I got chills.

CoTheSlow2 votes

[zombie-nunu-hearts] I love it

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

its perfect....Long live Lissandra !!true queen of the freljord!!

kneel on Ice2 votes

Hail To the Queen of Ice

Twistedtoo3 votes

Hail!! Lissandra

Through her, the world will be reborn in pure, emotionless ice!! Just as it was born!

La Spork2 votes

As a Lissandra main I will be proud to say that I shall use this piece in the repost of my Lissandra montage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFmL4PVp9g

kurthl33t2 votes

There's no easy way to add this song to my Youtube game-playing songs playlist, is there?

FantasySniper2 votes

I'm getting chills man.

Twistedtoo2 votes

I love this, it does give the epic feel that Lissandra deserves.

Lissandra is an ice witch who has planned quietly for thousands of years, I think the piece is a little too grand and feels more like a confrontation or like she more upfront and less like the cunning, secretive witch she is. Although I think if you consider the fact that after a thousand years, she is joining the League of Legends, she may be nearing the point where her plans take action and come into fruition, so in that light this would fit well with the idea of that slow build up coming to a head.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

the league of legends isn't canon anymore so she is probly just still planning for now.

rtbf2061059052 votes

And so, Lissandra opened her eyes, though blind, she could faintly sense the light outside...and it's fading. She took in a deep breath and reached out her arms, infusing black ice into her as she endured the pain from it.

But she did not wither. Leaving behind her more trivial belongings, and leaving behind her previous life, determined, she left the Skyborn temple and thought to herself as she set on, a new journey:

"And now, a new era begins."

Day 1:War for Freljord.

Dicerson1 votes

How did you make it? Do you have a huge orchestra at your disposal?

Like seriously, I'm curious XD

The Mighty Flea2 votes

Most likley uses a DAW program. DAW standing for Digital, Audio, Workstation. There are hundreds, but the most popular being Ableton live, FL Studio, Cubase, and Logic. He probs used the Kontak orchestral sampler.

A Liberal1 votes

Every time I've tried to use the orchestral tools in FL studio it always sounds like trash :/ cardboard 5 4lyf

GJ though great song, really well done.

The Mighty Flea1 votes

Yes I am pretty bad at it myself xD. But there are a lot of pricey options that I can't buy. But the expensive stuff sound hyper realistic.

Oceanic Song1 votes

I love this o

BuzzinTate1 votes

You should do one for Syndra. Syndra and Lissandra are my favorite mages to play, they're probably the most technical mages to play other than zyra

CHOPSTICKUHH1 votes

I do like it, but to me it sounds but to heroic and adventurous for Lissandra, she's more dark and wicked (ice witch) i think it would fit better if it were more sinister or mysterious sounding. This almost sounds like it would fit poppy more as her lore says she's on a quest to find the rightful owner of the hammer

U4fyn2vZzW1 votes

You need to work for Riot, this is what a champ theme should be.

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