Tired of Pasty, White Champions That Have Been Coming Out. Riot Please make a more diverse Champions

The Derp Empress·Feb 24, 2019·2 votes·2,634 views

So, this has been bugging me for a pretty long time, but I can't help but notice the lack of diversity Riot has had in terms of how their champions have looked. They are all white. Hear me out, there's nothing wrong with being Caucasian or European descent. I'm merely on this forum to point out the lack of racial diversity, which I find problematic and stupidly boring. I am an art student, and I can't help but feel that all these champions who are white are made due in part because of the following reasons:

A) White skin tone is easy to make, so it's a bit of a convenience thing.
B) The Riot artists went to design schools and depending on their education, they were only taught about white masters nd the models that came in for the observational drawing were mostly white. Art education for the longest time and to this day is still very Euro-centric. I'm not blaming them on how they were taught, but now's the time to realize it and fix it.
C) I get that Riot is also a company, and companies also want to sell a product, so within being safe, they go with doing "easy" appearances and skins.

An example would be Lux, Ahri, and Illaoi. Lux came out in 2010, Ahri came out in 2011, and Illaoi came out in 2015. Ahri and Lux have a slim body figure, very girlish personalities, and people use them a lot in the game. It is due to these traits, that Riot keeps on milking out skins, but they are milking them out due to convenience for both design wise and for money. I'm not going to say that Riot artists don't work hard or creatively for their jobs, but the amount of Lux and Ahri skins that are teased and released are ridiculous. You can't deny that making a skimpy tight outfit for a slim character is not difficult. Moreover, Ahri was made when the Korean servers came up and she is the femme fatale mascot team girl in Korea. Her recent KDA skin just further proves how much they use her as a marketing tactic. Now, I'm moving on to Illaoi who has been released four-years ago and she does a great job top, disrupting the enemy, and great for late game especially with her ult. Despite her usefulness in the past four years, she only has 3 skins. Her default, Void Bringer (with her release), and Resistance which just came out recently in 2018. I remember Riot reached out to the league community for our opinion and we would vote on which 3 draft Illaoi skins would look best for her, and they acknowledged the fact she has been lacking skins. This was great and I'm elated Riot reached out to their community. However, going back to Lux and Ahri as my examples, their body types are slim but Illaoi is the only female who has a very muscular and traditionally unfeminine appearance and personality, which makes her totally bomb. Unfortunately, it is due to her body type that makes designing skins for her so difficult, but that's where the fun and creativity should come into dish out a unique and cool skin for a champ such as Illaoi.

D) I can count people of color champs on my hands and there's 143 champs in total. I'm breaking them down by gender, too. I also provide the fraction amount with its rounded percent. Male: Lucian, Ekko, Yasuo, Yi, Shen, Zed, Lee Sin and Xin Zhao (8 total) Female: Ahri, Akali, Illaoi, Irelia, Karma, Taliyah, Nidalee (Sivir and Kai'sai?) (7-9 total)

Male of color: 8/143~ 5.60% Females of color: 7/143 or 9/143 ~ 4.90% or 6.30% In total: 15/143 or 17/143 ~10.50 % or 11.89%

As for white champions...

Female: Ashe, Sejuani, Annie, Caitlyn, Camille, Cassosopiea, Orianna, Riven, Sona, Syndra, Vayne, Vi, Dianna, Leona, Elise, Fiora, Jinx, Katarina, Kayle, Morgana, LeBlanc, Lissandra, Lux, Janna, Miss Fortune, Zyra, Quinn, Xayah, Zoe, and Neeko. (30 in total) Male: Braum, Darius, Draven, Corki, Ezreal, Tryndamere, Garen, Gragas, Twisted Fate, Zilean, Graves, Jarvan, Varus, Swain, Talon, Taric, Jayce, Jhin, Pantheon, Gangplank, Olaf, Vlad, Urgot, Udyr, Kayn, Rakan, Pyke, and Sylas (28 in total).

White females: 30/143 champs~ 20.98% of the champ select is white females White males: 28/143 champs~ 19.58 % of champ select is white males In total: 58/143 ~ 37.06% of the champ select is white.

*Note: I put Sivir and Kai'sai in parentheses because they are from Shurima, inspired by Egypt or the Middle-East, and Egyptian people are olive toned and Kai'sai is pasty because she was in the Void her whole life and didn't face the sun until her late teens. However, she's still white-passing. *Note: I also excluded Yordles, and Shadow Isle champs (because they are dead and don't have recollection of who they were for the most part), monsters/ creatures, masked champs like Victor, and champs that have colorful skin colors such as Evelyn, Soraka, Shyvana because I don't want to extrapolate or presume.

Overall, Riot needs to include more people of racial diversity. I personally feel making characters who are white has become an easy tactic to release a champ. Moreover, a white or eroticized Asian character and their skins (*ahem Ahri) come about due to marketing tactics to be safe and it's easy to design them at this point. Personally, appearance wise, all the champs have been white and are starting to look the same so I am not seeing any creative or artistic thinking when it comes to these champs on their physical appearance. Their kits are cool, but their abilities and physical design are still supposed to be in sync and tell them which region they are from in the League universe. It's starting to become predictable and an easy tactic to release a champ. I know Riot has great creative people and I hope your talents aren't being wasted on making same bodied, and same skin-toned characters for your career there. Challenge yourselves or provide people of color at your workplace to help with the design of a champ of a different body type and ethnic race. It truly is ridiculous to only note that there are two black male champs, 1 presumably Indian champ, a girl of middle-eastern/ Egyptian descent, Nidalee who I see as Brazilian, and a whole bunch of Asian characters that are made due in part of historical orientalism and Asian fetishization that happens today. Just look back at your champ select Riot and ask yourself, what's lacking design wise? Ask us?

I, personally speaking, won't mind a kick-ass Black or Southeast Asian female character inspired, which is something new and these communities in real life are underrepresented. Do more gross looking girls, do more less masculine men, create men who are not the warrior-type, create more champs with prosthetics (Urgot), create champs with disabilities, create champs that are unappealing but fun for both genders, create champs that don't have gender/ identify with one. Create something new. Surprise us.

I feel as though the kits have been the priority as of late for the recent champ releases (Zoe, Kaisai, Pyke, Neeko, Sylas,) have been all human (for the most part, and the appearance becomes second, thus having a homogenous champ select. Whatever the case, Riot, please make your champs more interesting and less homogenous in terms of body-type and race. I've been playing your game for a long time, and I'm personally disappointed at the designs as of late as an art student and as a female.

65 Comments

ChaosReynFeb 24, 201913 votes

You wanna know why anime characters are all white like that?

It's because it's easier to artistically preserve a lighter skin tone, as trying to make the tone darker can lose a lot of the details.

The same is true in champions...that's why even Lucian looks more of a milk chocolate than a dark chocolate.

It's got nothing to do with race. Though I admit, body type is a completely artistic area that often becomes a selling point.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20192 votes

It's a bit of a race thing for me, and a bit of an art thing for me as well. It's not hard to make a darker skin tone, it's just art education never highlights on how to teach it and art studios lack people of color themselves. (*ahem Disney) Artists of color know what do to because they create work that represents themselves and their communities and they had to turn to art that wasn't Euro-centric. Look up Kehende Wiley, he's a painter who focuses on African-American bodies and exhibits his paintings where traditional European paintings would be to point out the erasure and lack of black representation in history.

Again, not hard, it's laziness and being safe in the market. If Rihanna can figure out how to make 40 shades of different foundation and be successful, artists can figure out how to get different skin tones right. #colortheory

Also anime characters are based on Japanese anime. Japan and other Asian cultures have been ingrained to think that lighter skin is beautiful due to it being a socio-economic symbol of status throughout history. Your pale, oh then you didn't work on the farmlands and have tanned skin if you were a peasant. Western beauty standards just further vilify the fact that white skin is better.

ChaosReynFeb 24, 20194 votes

But that's the issue: it shouldn't be a race thing. We're talking art depicting a fictional world with freaking CHIMERA PEOPLE and ARMORED FREAKIN BEARS THAT TALK, why can't we have nice things without someone crying about whitewashing?

GreenKnightFeb 24, 20198 votes

They don't NEED to. I wouldn't care if my champion is black or not, i just want their visual and gameplay design to fit in the League.

But it's true that many champs suffer from the sameface syndrome, and i would like Riot to change that, but it wouldn't matter all that much.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Kaisai, Xayah, and Katarina all look like they can be related. LOL.

GreenKnightFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Kaisai, Xayah, and Katarina all look like they can be related. LOL.

Yeah, that's actually one of my main gripes of modern champions. They all look almost the same. Sylas looks like Kayn, Rakan, etc. That's why i like champs that have hidden their features. Like old Kayle, Jhin and Pyke.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Kayle face ain't gonna be hidden anymore. that rework coming out soon fam. She got that neck tho.

GreenKnightFeb 24, 20192 votes

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Kayle face ain't gonna be hidden anymore. that rework coming out soon fam. She got that neck tho.

That's why i said "old Kayle". I hate her new design.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20192 votes

Her kit looks better now and you can use her again. Her ult has a dual function.

GreenKnightFeb 24, 20191 votes

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Her kit looks better now and you can use her again. Her ult has a dual function.

I don't like reworks at all, so i can't use her.

MordepoolFeb 24, 20197 votes

Seems like the issue is with you projecting and not with Riot

Critmaster GarenFeb 24, 20194 votes

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Seems like the issue is with you projecting and not with Riot

that issue has a name.

its called racism. his whole post is racist as fuck.

MordepoolFeb 25, 20192 votes

I know that you know that, but Mods might get angry for calling it out as such.

Baron Von GarenFeb 24, 20197 votes

They don't need it.

That's literally all there is to it.

If you try to make a list of needs for a company, they're going to come out with less quality because they aren't apt at making those types of things.

Same place applies to the workplace. Don't want to get to far into politics, but when you put political correctness above everything else, quality and the business/company as a whole will start dropping.

You shouldn't hire african americans solely based on the fact that they're african americans, because that's racist in of itself.

Likewise, you shouldn't try to force riot to make a more diverse selection solely for the sake of diversity, because it will be blatantly obvious, the quality will be low, and nobody wants either of those two.

Wínters DawnFeb 24, 20197 votes

Get this sjw garbage out of my game. They are characters in a video game. Good God you people seriously need more to do with yourselves. Absolutely pathetic, get a life and play some league for what it is: a fucking video game.

UnboundHadesFeb 24, 20196 votes

its a game diversity doesnt matter and its annoying as hell since it just devolves everything into politics

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Which is sad that it has to devolve into something political. I don't think to ask for more diverse looking champs is bad, people of different backgrounds all play league and art is based on reality. Like pay homage to your community? Riot didn't have a problem with paying homage to Korea making Ahri, but they knew it would be a good investment to make her once the Korean servers came up, since Korea's gaming business is flourishing.

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 24, 20194 votes

I don't think to ask for more diverse looking champs is bad, people of different backgrounds all play league and art is based on reality.

Sometimes art does reflect reality, but not always.

Let me ask you something, you mentioned before that people of different backgrounds play league. And if diversity is such a problem as you've mentioned then wouldn't the playerbase of league be similarly hued just like the champions you claim are pasty white?

The thing is, that it doesn't matter. Regular people don't look at skin color. I don't look at skin color when I play champions, I play them because I find them fun.

I don't see a hispanic champion in the game, should I be offended? Should I demand Riot makes a hispanic champion? No, because that's not important.

People should be free to create the art that they want to make without other people breathing down their neck demanding they fill race quotas. It's ridiculous.

But to bring it back people of different backgrounds already play league, they didn't need champions of their race to draw them in.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

This could just be me and how I was presenting my argument, but I'm not asking for a diversity quota. Never did I say that. Ever. I'm not trying to nitpick you and you've actually been one of the few people on this forum who have been the most kind and thoughtful. I know I made an argument based on the lack of diversity in the champ select, but never did I say let's hire people of color to do diverse champs in League and never did I say there needs to be a quota.

The reason, I made a drafted version of champs to show how many champs, design-wise, pass as white and in comparison, champs don't pass as white out of the 143.

I know that the argument I presented is sensitive and they don't do well on these boards, but with the argument I presented, I would appreciate if certain things linked to diverse representation were not something I presumably believe.

I don't believe in a diversity quota, nor do I believe that people of color should be hired to make more diverse champs. That's tokenism and also isn't solving anything. Jobs should be given on a meritocracy and experience.

It'd be stupid to have a quota, and that would be forced tokenism in the League Champ select to have a so-and-so character because we need to be "politically correct" and represent this community. I don't believe that because it'd be forced. Designs should happen because they happen, which I agree with you.

This post was meant to be, overall, a call out to Riot's biases, known or unknown, that they made consciously or unconsciously making. Riot is also rumored to be very unkind to their artists, and I just hope that their creative insight is not being snuffed either due to capitalist demands.

And I find League fun and I love the game. I wouldn't play champs just because of the way they looked. The reason why I'm so peeved about the recent champs is also due in part, of how they look the same. I want to go into an art job, but all too recently I've been hearing how artistic insight has been snuffed out for capitalist gain.

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 25, 20193 votes

Well first I'm pleasantly surprised you aren't asking for a quota, and you understand why that's bad.

The thing I disagree with you is that Riot's "biases" are more often than not just its artists creating what they want to make, and that's all. I don't know how Riot treats its workers so I couldn't say about how things go there.

I would argue that recent champs don't look the same at all, in fact they all have vastly different costumes and designs, meant to be distinguishable from a silhouette. I can't really explain how else you think they all look the same besides their skin color, but that's not reasonable at all as a metric to distinguish people.

FlashesFeb 24, 20196 votes

You've actually got something wrong with your head if you think Ahri is a "Pasty White Champion" that you can use in your argument.

Also you're wrong on so many of those champions. Syndra is from Ionia. Sona has an unclear background. You counted fucking YORDLES as "White Males", like Corki.

I can't understand what the fuck you were thinking making this post.

BoringLittleFFeb 24, 20195 votes

Do more gross looking girls, do more less masculine men, create men who are not the warrior-type, create more champs with prosthetics (Urgot), create champs with disabilities, create champs that are unappealing but fun for both genders, create champs that don't have gender/ identify with one. Create something new. Surprise us.

Dota 2 literally has them all. Why are you still here?

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Why would I dump my precious toxic trash game I love living with for a confusing replacement landfill. League is better gameplay wise and I've made some acquaintances and great friends from League.[sg-syndra]

BoringLittleFFeb 24, 20194 votes

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Why would I dump my precious toxic trash game I love living with for a confusing replacement landfill. League is better gameplay wise and I've made some acquaintances and great friends from League.[sg-syndra]

Because it has all the designs that you mentioned. Therefore it is better for you. But somehow you don't practice what you preach.

ChaosReynFeb 24, 20191 votes

that's cruel though...telling a league player to go play DotA is like telling someone to go back to Runescape.

(In the most joking, non-hypocritical way possible though: runescape had diversity in character creation. kappa)

BoringLittleFFeb 24, 20192 votes

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that's cruel though...telling a league player to go play DotA is like telling someone to go back to Runescape.

(In the most joking, non-hypocritical way possible though: runescape had diversity in character creation. kappa)

They make it sound like diversity is the thing that keeps them interested and Dota 2 has a much larger non-humanoid/human ratio thatn League of Legends.

So I see no problem at all.

Wínters DawnFeb 24, 20193 votes

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Because it has all the designs that you mentioned. Therefore it is better for you. But somehow you don't practice what you preach.

Sjw's are insanely hypocritical don't you know?

BoringLittleFFeb 24, 20192 votes

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Why would I dump my precious toxic trash game I love living with for a confusing replacement landfill.

So, a game with characters like Medusa, Broodmother, Winter Wyvern, Pac, Io, Dark Willow and lack of "boring white characters" is a confusing replacement landfill even though it has been created almost at the same time as League of Legends and even earlier? Were you even willing to give it a try?

League is better gameplay wise and I've made some acquaintances and great friends from League.{{sticker:sg-syndra}

Well, judging from your post, it doesn't look like you have much fun in League. And in today's game market, when people don't have fun with the game, they leave it for another game.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Tried Dota, and I got confused and I still love League. Again, just peeved at the recent champ releases, looking the same. I have friends from League and cosplay from it, and when I said "why would I dump my precious toxic trash game I love living with for a confusing replacement landfill", it's because League has better gameplay, entertaining, and the memes from League are too good. I'm not just in it for the champs, which my argument has been just reduced to, but okay cool.

KalikainFeb 24, 20194 votes

Go play club penguin, where there are only penguins.

boricCentaur1Feb 24, 20192 votes

You can't it's gone forever.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Lmao I wish I loved making pizza.

ChaosReynFeb 24, 20191 votes

downvoted cause Club Penguin died and you reminded us all. [zombie-nunu-tears]

4 Step CadenceFeb 24, 20194 votes

I don't understand your logic of how some born and raised Ionians are white while others aren't.

And Orianna is a robot. What do you want her creator to do? Paint her a different color? Use different colored metal?

And I'm pretty sure Pyke is black/the same race as Illaoi.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Orianna's lore. She met contact her some toxin in Zaun helping those impoverished and her organs started failing, so her father made her a robotic body from her human-likeness and her human heart (I believe) still intact.

4 Step CadenceFeb 24, 20192 votes

I see.

Still, I'm not sure why she should be included in this discussion, as she is no longer an organic life form, and I don't think the color of her metal should matter.

Also, you realize that Neeko is a chameleon, right? Her appearance is an ever-changing thing, and I think her actual appearance is more along the lines of Illaoi in terms of skin color, since she is most likely from a tropical island. Her voice actress is also Brazilian to my knowledge, which is honestly a huge step up from her being played by someone who is white.

The Derp EmpressFeb 25, 20191 votes

Despite her not being an organic life-form, her appearance is still heavily-based on her humanoid form where she had blonde hair and blue eyes presumably.

And I didn't know that about Neeko, but I do now. I know that going into this discussion there would be some margin of error 3.5+/-, but that's actually really nice to know about her.

Also, thanks for being so cordial and civil on this thread. Much appreciated.

[sg-ahri-2]

JanúaryFeb 24, 20194 votes

I'm genuinely curious how your stupid and ignorant post hasn't been removed yet. Let alone, you couldn't even design a champion if they gave you a paper and pencil. Get a fucking grip and stop bringing race into everything. People like you don't deserve to have an opinion.

The Derp EmpressFeb 24, 20191 votes

Freedom of speech is a gift. Even your hate speech is free speech and it's protected. I didn't say anything hateful or demeaning at all and not specifically at you, but you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine. Don't attack me as a person as you did me.

However, you assume less of my drawing abilities without seeing my art (LOL), but since you think you are better than me or less than without knowing me at all, let me ask you a question. Can you draw? Can you make a champion? Can you 3-D render? Can you animate? Can you sit in on observational drawing sessions where people are nude to understand basic human anatomy? Can you storyboard? Can you draft different concepts of designs and then mesh them together for a final product? Can you?

Wínters DawnFeb 25, 20193 votes

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Freedom of speech is a gift. Even your hate speech is free speech and it's protected. I didn't say anything hateful or demeaning at all and not specifically at you, but you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine. Don't attack me as a person as you did me.

However, you assume less of my drawing abilities without seeing my art (LOL), but since you think you are better than me or less than without knowing me at all, let me ask you a question. Can you draw? Can you make a champion? Can you 3-D render? Can you animate? Can you sit in on observational drawing sessions where people are nude to understand basic human anatomy? Can you storyboard? Can you draft different concepts of designs and then mesh them together for a final product? Can you?

Yet your chosen defense is to call someone else's thoughts hate speech.

The only person bringing race or anything up was YOU. How fucking self centered do you have to be? Someone disagrees with you (even if their words are harsh) you try to label it as hate speech???

Attention seeking sjw, all you are and all you'll ever be to this world. It's sad. It's pathetic. Let people enjoy their video game. And again THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS inside the game.

I'm honestly surprised as well that this race baiting trash thread hasn't been deleted long earlier.

The Derp EmpressFeb 25, 20191 votes

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I'm genuinely curious how your stupid and ignorant post hasn't been removed yet. Let alone, you couldn't even design a champion if they gave you a paper and pencil. Get a fucking grip and stop bringing race into everything. People like you don't deserve to have an opinion.

The only person bringing race or anything up was YOU. How fucking self centered do you have to be? Someone disagrees with you (even if their words are harsh) you try to label it as hate speech???

Attention seeking sjw, all you are and all you'll ever be to this world. It's sad. It's pathetic. Let people enjoy their video game. And again THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS inside the game.

I'm honestly surprised as well that this race baiting trash thread hasn't been deleted long earlier.

You literally just said "I'm genuinely curious how your stupid and ignorant post hasn't been removed yet", and " People like you don't deserve to have an opinion", and " Attention seeking sjw" to belittle my intelligence and character and pigeon hole it into one category to make any arguments that I made invalid and to shut me up.

Do I get that it's a game at the end of the day and they need to make money on a fictional franchise. Absolutely. Is their room for improvement so the game can flourish, absolutely. Do I see it happening ever in the future, probably not because I know that at the end of the day Riot is a company and they need to make money and they can't make everyone happy.

I am just voicing out my personal opinion, and you're attacking the integrity of my character and intelligence and not the argument I made.

Anyway, have a good day, and good luck on the rift because these elo updates are killer. [sona-playing]

JanúaryFeb 25, 20192 votes

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You literally just said "I'm genuinely curious how your stupid and ignorant post hasn't been removed yet", and " People like you don't deserve to have an opinion", and " Attention seeking sjw" to belittle my intelligence and character and pigeon hole it into one category to make any arguments that I made invalid and to shut me up.

Do I get that it's a game at the end of the day and they need to make money on a fictional franchise. Absolutely. Is their room for improvement so the game can flourish, absolutely. Do I see it happening ever in the future, probably not because I know that at the end of the day Riot is a company and they need to make money and they can't make everyone happy.

I am just voicing out my personal opinion, and you're attacking the integrity of my character and intelligence and not the argument I made.

Anyway, have a good day, and good luck on the rift because these elo updates are killer. [sona-playing]

Hm. well Room for improvement doesn't mean putting more emphasis on a certain race, It means more so of tuning game play and adding innovative physics and abilities that are fun to play and use. You however are taking it to an unnecessary level and in a way targeting riot by saying they should make more "Non white" champions, Personally I feel right to assume you're not only a racist but also someone who has a valid point. No wonder your ignorant post has so many down votes. It literally speaks for you. And you can step down off of your high horse as well.

JanúaryFeb 25, 20192 votes

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Freedom of speech is a gift. Even your hate speech is free speech and it's protected. I didn't say anything hateful or demeaning at all and not specifically at you, but you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine. Don't attack me as a person as you did me.

However, you assume less of my drawing abilities without seeing my art (LOL), but since you think you are better than me or less than without knowing me at all, let me ask you a question. Can you draw? Can you make a champion? Can you 3-D render? Can you animate? Can you sit in on observational drawing sessions where people are nude to understand basic human anatomy? Can you storyboard? Can you draft different concepts of designs and then mesh them together for a final product? Can you?

Also, What hate speech was projected? I need to know.

BoltonatorFeb 24, 20193 votes

[sg-lux-2]

TyrekGoldenspearFeb 24, 20193 votes

You forgot the most obvious factor as to why a lot the champions are "white" or "asian".

Because artists 9 times out of 10 create what they know. Most people working in the art design department are one or two of those things, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Stop trying to act like race is such an important thing, because it isn't. The way to stop racism isn't through forced quotas because that only brings more attention to race. What you do is treat it like a non-factor.

MarbolidFeb 25, 20193 votes

I'll be honest with you, brutally. Your idea, and some parts of reasoning are off the mark. Why would they, as a company, with an aim of making more money, while being cost-effective, target a minor demographic, which would statistically speaking, with the same investment of time and effort, bring in less profit. What people seem to forget is that at the end of the day, Riot isn't a charity nor is it a booth run by 2-3 hobbists, and most certainly isnt an art commision thread, it is in fact a company.

KFCeytronFeb 25, 20193 votes

"Tired of Pasty, White Champions"

That's a racist thing to say.

"unfeminine appearance and personality, which makes her totally bomb"

That's a sexist thing to say.

You might want to take a long, hard look at your own biases and prejudices.

The Derp EmpressFeb 25, 20191 votes

Hm. I think I should've written this differently and not so bluntly. My own "biases and prejudices" are due in part due to how most games nowadays, including League have a tendency, intentional or not, to vastly consist of western descent and I'm not at all calling Riot racist for that. Never have I ever said that.

I get that diversity is a touchy issue, but I don't like how people are bashing me on this forum by assuming what I believe or said when I never said it. My beliefs are being generalized and I wanted to have a conversation and people have just been calling me an idiot, a SJW, and a sexist/racist.

When I said, "Tired of Pasty, White Champions", you took that statement out of context and cherrypicked it from my argument where I later explained that at least for me, League's recent champs have been made for convenience and suffer a bit for being a bit too homogenous.

And

When I said,"unfeminine appearance and personality, which makes her totally bomb" about Illaoi that doesn't mean this

"I love her body type there should only be masculine-like female characters from now on and fuck all those slim-bodied female League Champs and there shouldn't be any of them anymore. "

What I meant by that statement is that her untraditional feminine design in contrast to society's expectations of women and League's universe is what makes her unique in the League universe and vilifies her role as a Top champion because she was designed to take and inflict as much damage for the team. [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Weiner the PoohFeb 25, 20192 votes

Pyke is black, how the hell did you list him as white? And Sona and Syndra are Ionian(read: Asian), as are Xayah and Rakan. Varus is two Ionian men fused with an ancient Shuriman entity and has a gray/purple body, thats not very white. Jhin is also Ionian, so thats another Asian character.

And a lot of the champs you have listed aren't white for no reason. Demacia is based off of medieval Germany/France, so it follows that the people that live there would look like that.

MoonscourgeFeb 25, 20192 votes

Come on.. We have pseudo asians, we have dark skinned people, we have white people, we have yordles, we have a literal scarecrow, monstrosities from a world that we can't even comprehend to understand... League is pretty damn diverse. The majority of people playing this game are white and it has been proven time and time again, over every kind of media, that people prefer things that are good looking over obscure and ugly characters.

Reality is that most people don't give a single damn. Nobody complains if another black character comes out, nobody (should) complain if it's another white one. It's not the game's goal to represent everybody, or even anybody.