Removing Zhonyas Hourglass/Making QSS into an ap item

G0KU S0N··1 votes·504 views

While playing many assassin type champs. No matter how skilled/snowballed or smart you play. Zhonyas alwasy seems to counter us entirely. This makes team fights impossible at times, with not being being able to focus that target. I suggest removing the item or just the stasis active of the item. Instead making QSS into and ap item. The same way tear is available for AD/AP champions. No longer will the active of hourglass be a easy one click counter. Making QSS into and ap item, getting cc'd, or targeted you will rely on the mechanic of that active item. Now i understand that champions that use hourglass for means of waiting out and attack by zed, talon, yasuo, syndra, lux, etc. Is something that hourglass can do and QSS can not. I havent thought of everything. I would like to hear what the community thinks. if this is a good idea or not. Or perhaps just making QSS into and ap item and not worrying about Zhonyas

11 Comments

Sejeo2 votes

Oh so you want us mages to have no counterplay vs assassins?

TouchFluffyTaìl2 votes

While at it lets also remove item 3156 because not only it saves every AD build champ from certain death, it also activates on it own and active effect item only costs 1/3 of the price AP build champions have to pay for a similar effect.

./Sarcasm

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i think you can still have a place for item 3157 and also having an ap item built from item 3140 . just have a trade off for picking on or the other , like sharing a unique passive that if you have one of them the other one active isnt available so you cant abuse by having both

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

just give banshee veil QSS instead of negatron cloak.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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just give banshee veil QSS instead of negatron cloak.

egh ... then you couldnt have the shield of item 3102 i think they just need to make some kind of ap verson of item 3139 that builds with item 3140 . alot of times people who get item 3102 dont really need the active of item 3102 . just my 2 cents

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

While i find Banshee to be useful, i really dislike that that it get triggers on any ability when i really just want it to cancel out any CC early that i tank to bait an engage

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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While i find Banshee to be useful, i really dislike that that it get triggers on any ability when i really just want it to cancel out any CC early that i tank to bait an engage

yea i get what youre saying. i really like it on champs that have regen but need to block a cc to engage

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

yea. I'm an Illaoi main and while banshee is nice on some champs, i find Mercurial as a wasted item on her while QSS is a wasted slot by itself. I WANT to be stunned by a morgana so that their team will collapse on me. however, i DONT want to be stunned for 2 secs so that i can counter engage (and i do buy Merc treads and run tenacity mastery btw)

I've used cleansed several times on ADCs and Illaoi and its quite nice and i might stick to it simply because QSS is a pointless item for the situations i want to use it in. where as banshee prevents the situation i want to bait. Too bad cleanse has a long cooldown.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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yea. I'm an Illaoi main and while banshee is nice on some champs, i find Mercurial as a wasted item on her while QSS is a wasted slot by itself. I WANT to be stunned by a morgana so that their team will collapse on me. however, i DONT want to be stunned for 2 secs so that i can counter engage (and i do buy Merc treads and run tenacity mastery btw)

I've used cleansed several times on ADCs and Illaoi and its quite nice and i might stick to it simply because QSS is a pointless item for the situations i want to use it in. where as banshee prevents the situation i want to bait. Too bad cleanse has a long cooldown.

what about item 3111 and taking the mastery of swiftness do they stack? if so you could do that and have 45% resistance to cc

if so if you get hit by a Q from Morgana at max rank which is 3 secs you would reduce that down to 1.75secs?

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

as mentioned in the quote. i do run them. however, depending on the team composition, i do switch Swiftness with Legendary Guardian and i run insight for reduced SS CDs

zacktootall1 votes

how the hell do you people start crying about the smallest things just fucking play or uninstall league if you have that much of a problem with it

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