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Why isn't 1v1 an official game mode already?

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Years ago people were playing ARAM's and a couple other community game modes in customs, but ARAM stood out to be the most popular so they made it into an official game mode and map that enforces the previously "unwritten" rules like no recall, no shopping except when you're dead etc. 1v1 is also obviously popular, with "unwritten" options like BO1/BO3/BO5, random champs/same champs, first blood/first tower/100cs etc. yet it's not made into an official game mode where you can elegantly and comfortably set up all of these and not have to leave everytime and create another game for BO3's or BO5's. Also, if we're discussing this, what about implementing LAN gameplay (ups, downs, things that make it possible or impossible)? Like, being able to play with your friends on a hotspot network. Would this reduce pings? Would this make you able to play with no connection? (in an offline hotspot that actually only connects the computers with each other)

38 Comments

Häxel9 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/7hArTUnZ-showdown-1v12v2-mode-in-customs

Amasa Delano1 votes

/thread

Serika Zero1 votes

its not /thread because customs means only with friends people like me with no friends would need random match-making

so, this is another shit on people that don't have a lot of in-game friends its like rito just doesn't learn from their mistakes with dynamic q, premade missions and now this idea

Amasa Delano1 votes

Adding 1v1 to Customs is a fantastic first step. In-person 1v1 tournaments can still be organized vs. strangers, like the Microsoft Store tournaments happening now. If it's a popular enough game mode, Riot could certainly create a matchmaking queue for it, but they would need enough people on 24/7 to keep it around as a permanent queue, or turn it on for limited hours, or something to mitigate extremely long queue times.

By /thread, I meant that 1v1 has been confirmed as an "official" game mode, like OP was asking. Adding a matchmaking queue to it would be awesome, but has further hurdles that I'm sure will be dealt with as they approach.

Serika Zero9 votes

i think its because riot is afraid a lot of people will play those modes over 5v5 ranked summoner's rift or normal rift

why do i say that? because a bunch of people are like: the team is dragging me down so, they will ofc, prefer the 1v1 or 2v2 mode. i would as well tbh, even if i hate the rule of "fb" or "100 cs" or "first turret" and would like to actually get to destroy the nexus, but, well, that's another thing.

FatedSaviour1 votes

personally i would play 1v1 more than 5v5, because and plz dont salt me for being a bit salty about this or other things, just about most of my games are not close to my fault or even helped in losing, to the fact where i constantly play champs where im progressovely worse and worse until i feel like im on my teams level

Automated Riven7 votes

They did release a 1v1 and 2v2 map and they simply found that nobody played it. So they never rereleased it. People always ask but nobody actually plays it when it gets out out.

Serika Zero4 votes

i highly disagree with that, but then again, i also disagree with moon landing so, we chose to believe the authority if we want or not

the only thing i can say for certain is that i would like that game mode

Battalion8 votes

i also disagree with the moon landing

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Serika Zero5 votes

i am entitled to my own opinions, even if they might be false :) as long as its not hurting other people

rtbf2256182416 votes

A good ideological footing, at least.

Battalion2 votes

Of course you are, as am I.

Serika Zero1 votes

you don't have opinions, you have popcorn!!!!

Velzard of Koz1 votes

i also disagree with moon landing

I also disagree with moon landing. Landing a module on moon, putting some metal and shit on natural object? That's something I will never agree with. Let's instead settle on Mars, I do agree with Mars landing.

[sg-miss-fortune]

Serika Zero1 votes

aren't you people, the koz clan, already from there?

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Did you just assume my origin planet?

Serika Zero1 votes

yes, i'm one of those people those that are so dangerous, we got a very large bounty on our heads THE ASSUMPTIONERS!!!!

this sounded more badass in my head

Hong Kong Annie4 votes

That's not the full story. They had a 1v1/2v2 map already made, so to determine if they were going to release it they made a queue that used the hollowing abyss. Which is a terrible map for 1v1/2v2 because it's just not what it was designed for. So of course nobody liked it and riot was like "yup see nobody likes this so we aren't going to implement it"

Automated Riven1 votes

They did not use the howling abyss map. It was different and it was more similar to midlane on SR then it is to howling abyss. They used a separate map for the 1v1 and 2v2 game type. I played a shit ton of it so I actually know. For heaven sakes. Go watch the all Star 2v2 map and you will see which map was used.

SSJTribe2 votes

He's talking about the Snowdown Showdown from a few seasons ago, and it was indeed on Howling Abyss.

Hong Kong Annie3 votes

The map they used for all star was never put onto a live server. The 1v1/2v2 queue that nobody liked and got the whole concept canceled was played on the Hollowing abyss.

EDIT: and just to clarify THIS is what we got to play and THIS is what we should have gotten

LegendmakerGX1 votes

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They did release a 1v1 and 2v2 map and they simply found that nobody played it. So they never rereleased it. People always ask but nobody actually plays it when it gets out out.

How did they even found out no one played it when they didn't even release the damn crap to the public?

Rustling Bush5 votes

they thought about making a 1v1 map, i think it was called "magma chamber" or something like that but it was ultimately scrapped.

edit: https://www.pcgamesn.com/leagueoflegends/riot-league-legends-cancelled-magma-chamber-one-does-not-simply-create-map

Lux Is Mai Waifu5 votes

Because they don't reinvest as much money in their game as developers of similar size and it shows.

Lestat S463 votes

Agreed. Bring Back Snowdown Showdown. the 1v1, 2v2 Mode. Win on First Blood, First Tower, or first to 100 CS.

Kairoptra3 votes

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/04/ask-riot-snowdown-showdown-and-pro-kills/

The 1v1 Snowdown Showdown game mode was a mode that just didn’t work out. The idea of it seemed fun, but it was spectacularly unpopular when we released it. Maybe there’s an execution of it that could be more compelling than version 1.0, but it would need to undergo some serious surgery, and that just doesn’t feel worth it when compared against making newer modes like Blood Moon.

This mode actually ended up working a lot better as a viewing experience for tournaments or esports events (like All-Stars). I feel like it will continue to have a home there (it’s also fun to watch pros battle it out 1v1!).

Riot's words, not mine. Don't shoot the messenger.

videorfeak2 votes

They had the 1v1 a few years back as their snowdown event and everyone whined and bitched about it.

Hong Kong Annie2 votes

That because the one we got was a terrible implementation of the concept and riot used it as an excuses to not make a proper one.

Carnicore2 votes

The appeal is too niche, and it would get stale very quickly after a meta forms. League champions were not designed and balanced entirely for 1v1.

Lux Is Mai Waifu1 votes

Two player instances will always cause less server load than a 5v5, they should be encouraging the niche audience to engage in 1v1s and 3v3s and whatever else to reduce their overall cost.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Pantheon Guess

Shadowphoenix1 votes

I had asked about something like this years ago with a sparring game mode, and got mixed replies about it. (https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/wAPlpEsI-sparring-game-mode)

rtbf2256182411 votes

Honestly, this would work perfectly as an Event game mode at least.

rastarogue1 votes

I feel like they did a 1v1/2v2 event mode at one point, but the problem ended up being server resources. Essentially, in ARAM or SR, you have 10 players on 1 game instance, but take the same players and have them play 1v1 you end up with 5 instances, in essence quintupling the server resources involved.

That combined with a really really rapid drop off in play rates was I think why they don't do this.

EDIT: Part of the reason why there is no IP/BE gain off of 1 player customs is to also discourage people from using a full games worth of server resources on 1 player. I know in the past they've even disabled customs if you have under 2 or 4 real players in the past when they were having some resource issues

hi im seb1 votes

as far as i remember riot said no one played that, recently valve released a 2v2 mode in CS GO and I never struggled to find a game there, It's sometimes even faster than the normal Q League is a much bigger game than CS os I don't think here shouldn't be a problem with such a Q

It even is a ranked Q btw

Rayjay Redfang1 votes

I believe the said that they are working on it.

JoeMG1 votes

I would definitely play some 1v1s to kill time, but I could see how it wouldn't be super popular and wouldn't be worth the resources to develop.

Bârd1 votes

1v1.

Twisted Treeline.

Barrier Ignite.

Nunu Only.

BLOOD BOIL START.

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