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Ventrillo, The Puppet Master (Champion Idea)

mandrews·3/22/2019, 3:06:27 AM·15 votes·8,937 views

Ventro, the Puppet Master (Name Change)

Background With some background to the idea of the champion, Ventro’s kit is based on switching between him and his puppet. His puppet is an ap assassin, whereas Ventro himself is an ap tank. I’ll explain. When he presses r, he roots himself to a spot, and his abilities toggle (like Jayce or Nidalee), and you take control of his puppet. This puppet has a certain range in which it can travel from Ventro, and takes damage if it goes too far. Ventro also takes similar damage to what his puppet takes, in terms of % of hp (like Illaoi E). Now that I have laid a basis for the champion, I will go more in-depth as to what the abilities are.

Abilities Passive – The Puppet As Ventro’s puppet takes damage, so does he, at half of the percentage of health that the puppet loses (eg. If the puppet dies, then Ventro would be at 50% health). Ventro's puppet can take damage while he is by his side.

Ventro’s puppet follows close behind. When Ventro is below 50% health and does not have his puppet deployed, the puppet passively heals Ventro (up to 50% max health) after being out of combat for ~10 seconds.

Ventro’s puppet applies on-hit effects.

Q – String Root / Puppet Swing (CD: 14, 14, 12, 12, 10) Ventro Form (String Root, Skillshot): Ventro swings his puppets strings, rooting and dealing damage to the first enemy hit, and pulling them toward him. Enemies standing behind the first target take magic damage. Puppet Form (Puppet Swing, Dash): Ventro whips the puppet strings, moving the puppet in any direction up to 3 times.

W – Tuck and Run / Puppet’s Influence (CD: Unique) Ventro Form (Tuck and Run)(CD 18, 16, 16, 14, 14): Ventro hides his puppet, making it unable to take damage for 5 seconds. He also gains 30% movement speed for 3 seconds. Puppet Form (Puppet’s Influence) (CD: 6, 6, 4, 4, 3): The puppet holds blades that can be stored for up to 2 charges. They cleave around him in a half circle and applies on hit effects. This attack deals more damage the lower the enemies health is.

E – Do It Myself / Independence (CD: 18, 17. 16, 16, 16) Ventro Form (Do It Myself): (Passive) Ventro's attacks deal extra magic damage on-hit. (Active) Ventro gains 25/32.5/40/47.5/55% attack speed for 5 seconds. Puppet Form (Independence): Travel as far as you want from Ventro without taking damage for (4,4,5,6,7) seconds.

R – Deploy / Undeploy (CD: Unique) Ventro Form (Deploy): Ventro deploys his puppet, cloaks himself with a protective shield, and roots himself. (CD: 30 upon the return of the puppet) Puppet Form (Undeploy): Ventro pulls his puppet back to him, and gains his ability to move. (CD: 0)

When Ventro's puppet dies, its cooldown doubles.

18 Comments

Backed3/22/2019, 3:08:02 AM2 votes

wow this is a really interesting concept and would like to see this in the game!!!

Wìlly3/22/2019, 3:30:08 AM2 votes

PogChampU with some art, great idea.

mikemcparty3/22/2019, 3:07:08 PM2 votes

I really like this. A problem with E though... What happens when the 4 seconds is up? Does the puppet need to make it back to the range before receiving damage? Does ventrillo pull the puppet back? How would this interact with a blitz pull or a thresh hook?

I think a better solution would be to say that if the link between the puppet and ventrillo is broken, then the puppet has to be rebuilt and is on cooldown? Don't allow for the puppet to leave the range and make that more integrated into the kit.

Daedeye3/22/2019, 4:08:41 PM2 votes

In which situations will he want to use his R and in which situations will he not want to? I think there are several situations that have to be thought about and how to adjust his abilities, for him to be able to cleverly switch between puppet and normal mode.

  • Last Hitting
  • Pushing
  • Harassing
  • All in (during a gank for example)

How strong will be his influence in teamfights, when only using the puppet? Should it be rather strong, mediocre or weak?

All in all he's a really cool concept, I think.

TimeToDieSuckers3/22/2019, 5:13:01 PM1 votes

Cool concept, hard to judge abilities without seeing them though. Healing from passive might be too strong.

Edit: Also Sylas just came out and mordekaiser is up next for the rework list, so another champion like this probably should wait for a while.

Mr Voidling3/22/2019, 5:29:29 PM1 votes

The name here is too close to ventriloquist in my opinion(which comes off as lazy, so we don't want that :P even just "Ven" or "Ventro" is better imo) and I can't really see any good match ups for this champ? Who do you expect him to be good against? And where do you expect him to lane? He has 2 targets and therefor can receive 150% damage? Any piercing ability is gonna destroy him(as a Vel main I have no problem with this). And what about things like Fiddle's crow, would that bounce back and forth between himself? We'll ignore the obvious broken aspect of his 6.6 cooldown ability(45% CDR) that lets the puppet travel anywhere for 7 seconds without taking any damage making you a literal god at level 9. And he seems to lack proper ranks for his abilities? R seems to only have 1 rank, with Q and E having 5 and W having 3... this is only 14 skill points. You need 6 ranks on each basic ability if the R is similar to Jayce's.

Overall a lot of things can be improved upon. Adding ratios, adjusting CD's, adding ranks, balancing power and power spikes, item's and how they work(runaan's? Is he melee or ranged?). Without his overpowered immortality of sitting in fountain and sending his puppet to kill everyone, I don't really see where he shines or in which lane. I see he has VERY clear counters being any champ with aoe/pierce abilities, but I don't see who he is particularly good against. I'd put some more love into this, work out the bugs and whatnot.

Personally I prefer my own take on the "puppet master", as mine includes many options for customization and changes core dynamics of the game(champion selection). Umbra & Oskom, who have a fairly decent bio. The puppet is more of a character and less of just a weapon.

Ryze on Roids3/23/2019, 12:15:24 AM1 votes

If this champions ever exists and his login theme isn't Metallica's Master of Puppets then I'm gonna start a riot

WorksAtAGayBar3/23/2019, 4:16:16 PM1 votes

Will a champion named Discord come a few years later and make him irrelevant :^p