Morellonomicon and Ludens Echo Useless for Ahri

Austin Ahri·2/28/2018, 5:24:55 PM·1 votes·1,113 views

with the new Morellonomicon i feel that Ahri and a other few champs find it useless now. Ryze would need it but now its useless. I want the old Morellonomicon back. i hate the new one so much.

Plz leave reply if u got something to say. thank you for ur time. GL HF

8 Comments

l MrD l2/28/2018, 5:28:29 PM3 votes

Ludens is basically old morrelo + Ludens ... in what way is it useless on ahri ... yeh theres a loss of movement speed but its still the same... bonus damage on its proc... CDR... mana... everything ahri wants ... if not ludens then GLp could also be good for more kiting and catch potential.... o_O

Zed genius2/28/2018, 6:01:37 PM1 votes

New morellos is basically old liandry with a different passive

Infernape2/28/2018, 6:04:33 PM1 votes

Ahris is that you?

2Charmnot2Charm2/28/2018, 7:18:50 PM1 votes

Ludens is fine on pretty much any mage now.

Escheton2/28/2018, 7:28:09 PM1 votes

Just build item 3907 and item 3089 and nuke whoever you catch with your charm

ValyrianBlade3/1/2018, 6:39:06 PM1 votes

I agree that it sucks that Ahri no longer has access to grievous wounds due to her not wanting flat pen (since she has true damage), and simultaneously doesn't want Liandry's still (doesn't need the health, and I believe the damage ramp doesn't affect true damage either). She went from having 1 strong item (Liandry's) being inefficient on her to two.

That said, new Ludens is a buff to her relative to old Morello - the extra damage ratio an item earlier helps her mid game. Spellbinder is likely also a buff on her at 2 items, however it requires you to use the active well (which isn't a given, especially at low Elo). Deathcap buff with void staff nerf is great for her (she didn't benefit as much from void staff as other champions due to her true damage so nerfing it helps her, while due to her lack of synergy with other item options she was one of the few mages to consistently build deathcap before, so the extra 5%ap and better build path are a straight buff). Rylai's getting an ap buff is nice for her too, if she decides to go that way.

The problems I find Ahri has now: Without the old mana restore passive of Morello, I can't stick around after won fights anymore. I lost a game due to this yesterday. Win a fight with staggered kills and can't keep pressing on as the first enemies respawn because I don't have the mana to help kill them and what could have been a game-ending push wasn't (which meant we eventually lost). Ahri has always had mana problems and without mana restore on take downs, she simply becomes useless after a big team fight is over unless she has blue or recalls.

Liandry's may be overturned, which sucks since she doesn't use it well.

Ahri can't opt into grievous wounds without seriously hampering her damage, which makes her a lot easier against healing teams than before. Especially now that Morello offers this on all hits, ADCs will opt into executioners even less, which makes healing comps a lot harder for her. At least she can take ignite though.

Ahrisistible3/1/2018, 7:12:58 PM1 votes

hey wassup im a ahri main (the name XD) and i dont think their useless but they do change a lot for her and its way harder to get CDR and DAMAGE for a champ that for sure needs both

Austin Ahri3/6/2018, 2:03:07 PM1 votes

Thx everyone. for the tips,advice and info. thank u all. Gl and HF.[sg-ahri-2]