Elderwood Fiddlesticks

Barbwired Mind·Dec 5, 2015·164 votes·29,382 views

Done by Korhiper on deviantart. Obviously inspired by the elderwood series, and i agree with the artist; he needs a buff. And some newly made love. When was the last time someone has seen a very serious in game? Not as much as we use to, community.

LETS BRING HIM BACK PLOX.

Edit: Guys, this IS just a "Concept" So changes will have to be made to avoid copying it too directly, especially since riot doesn't want fiddle to look TOO much like , theme wise. In my opinion, since Fiddle-dee, Fiddle-dum has a wonderful Dark Candy skin (I want Thresh to have one..), maybe this can be a winter season concept? Or Autumn.."Y" as some of the comments have suggested.

94 Comments

RiotKindlejackDec 5, 201539 votes

I love this so much, he reminds me of Janek the Green. However I feel that, given the differences between Hecarim and Bard, it copies Hecarim too directly and could have it's own creepy niche within the Elderwood. Another question I find myself asking is what to do for particles?

SpecterVonBarenDec 5, 201518 votes

Well, Hecarim's theme seems to be more of a green spring while Bard's is more of a cool winter. Perhaps the Elderwood line could have varying season themes to make them stand apart? So for Fiddle you could go with a more gold and yellow color for summer or red and brown for autumn?

ExtviaDec 5, 20152 votes

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Well, Hecarim's theme seems to be more of a green spring while Bard's is more of a cool winter. Perhaps the Elderwood line could have varying season themes to theme to make them stand apart? So for Fiddle you could go with a more gold and yellow color for summer or red and brown for autumn?

Personally, Fiddlesticks is like an incarnate of entropy, he makes people weaker as he gets stronger with his Life Drain and then there's the whole rapidly losing health to his ult if you're looney enough to not buy magic resist (RIP ADCs). So maybe make his stuff autumn-based since it's like the decay that comes before full on death that winter kinda respresents.

VeraskaDec 5, 20156 votes

greys, oranges, and browns for autumn yes pls

HazinessDec 5, 201533 votes

http://puu.sh/lK2P6/0135c73b4c.jpg

like this :O ?

Odyssey85Dec 5, 20152 votes

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http://puu.sh/lK2P6/0135c73b4c.jpg

like this :O ?

I this so much. I've been thinking of getting myself Fiddlesticks because I like his character and all that, but I always hear about he's useless af. But this skin just makes me go [slayer-pantheon-rainbows] and I'd instabuy this and the Fiddler immediately. 10/10 my friend

ModKnightsKemplarDec 5, 20153 votes

Haha he isn't COMPLETELY useless. He's been pretty good (by which I mean, fairly balanced) up until this particular preseason. Has a lot to do with the new jungle and the lack of a good item path for him. Once that gets addressed (and I'm sure it will, eventually), he'll be just fine again.

Odyssey85Dec 5, 20151 votes

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Haha he isn't COMPLETELY useless. He's been pretty good (by which I mean, fairly balanced) up until this particular preseason. Has a lot to do with the new jungle and the lack of a good item path for him. Once that gets addressed (and I'm sure it will, eventually), he'll be just fine again.

Oh okay, thank you for the clarification. Guess I'll have to get him ASAP

ModKnightsKemplarDec 9, 20151 votes

This just in, my friend. Runic enchantment getting changed... I'm not saying that fiddles will be the new champ, but it will help. Those changes won't hit till January, but at least they are thinking about it.

EDIT: You can check this update if you like. It's close to the last thing, as of this post. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/12/128-pbe-update.html#more

Odyssey85Dec 9, 20151 votes

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This just in, my friend. Runic enchantment getting changed... I'm not saying that fiddles will be the new champ, but it will help. Those changes won't hit till January, but at least they are thinking about it.

EDIT: You can check this update if you like. It's close to the last thing, as of this post. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/12/128-pbe-update.html#more

Huh, so runic echoes is supposed to be a combination of item 3285 + runeglaive? It sounds pretty good to me, huge mana restoration too.

ModKnightsKemplarDec 9, 20151 votes

Yeah, probably those passives won't stack in the final version, and the mana is super nice.

HAIL WHYDRADec 5, 20152 votes

Crittlesticks is best sticks

ScoroctDec 5, 20151 votes

so hear is the thing (actually just played some fiddle games) he is good but takes a lot of practice and good decision making. he also needs someone on his team to be a beefy frontline ideally and aoe cc helps alot. as i play him ive found that if all my lanes lose, he cant singly carry a game, so dont feel bad if u cant make up for 2 or 3 losing lanes. if you want any tips try lane ganking as him from lane brush with ur ult, it almost always nets a kill or sums. also when u use his ultimate dont immediately fear and drain them, chase them down and when they just get out of range or ur ult ends then fear and drain them. also despite deathfire sounding good ive really liked stormraiders surge to guarantee you outrun anyone after u ult them. and lastly rush lucidiy boots and dont build a jg enchant, just the upgraded smite of preference

also lategame fiddlesticks can kill a whole team with his ultimate which is always a nice plus if it gets there.

good luck with future games!

Spaceman5pffDec 6, 20151 votes

I find most success with fiddle when i play in a premade 5, so that i can work with my team to control vision to set up ults.

ScoroctDec 7, 20151 votes

he is awesome in premades, vision control is so necessary for fiddle

Odyssey85Dec 6, 20151 votes

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so hear is the thing (actually just played some fiddle games) he is good but takes a lot of practice and good decision making. he also needs someone on his team to be a beefy frontline ideally and aoe cc helps alot. as i play him ive found that if all my lanes lose, he cant singly carry a game, so dont feel bad if u cant make up for 2 or 3 losing lanes. if you want any tips try lane ganking as him from lane brush with ur ult, it almost always nets a kill or sums. also when u use his ultimate dont immediately fear and drain them, chase them down and when they just get out of range or ur ult ends then fear and drain them. also despite deathfire sounding good ive really liked stormraiders surge to guarantee you outrun anyone after u ult them. and lastly rush lucidiy boots and dont build a jg enchant, just the upgraded smite of preference

also lategame fiddlesticks can kill a whole team with his ultimate which is always a nice plus if it gets there.

good luck with future games!

Just another question, if you don't mind. Why not build a jungle enchantment? I hear how runeglaive isn't good on Fiddlesticks but reading what it does it sounds pretty good, since it gives mana restoration, and some CDR and mana. Do you mind explaining?

ScoroctDec 7, 20151 votes

not a problem, and the reason is somewhat unfortunate in that fiddlesticks just needs hourglass far too much in order to take his time building the jg enchant. i personally also run 15%cdr blue runes and use a build where i build the jg smite item and then get lucidity boots, then horuglass, then haunting guise then rylai then finish liandries. also since i go deep enough into the cunning tree for storm raiders surge i also get the 5% cdr masteries which help with cdr a lot. the only issue with this build is u lack mana regen, which honestly sucks a ton but as fiddle u be greedy and unless ur mid is smashing the opponent you take every blue, and use the mastery that extends their duration. also backing inbetween jungle clears is good cause otherwise u waste time walking around the jg. mana regen is most important if u poke a lot and are in long fights/seiges. fiddle doesnt poke and rather instead just bides his time looking for a good ult. fiddlesticks after his ult either dies or your team wins the fight relatively quickly due to its raw dmg, so teamfights with a fiddle never last long. late game i might sell the smite enchant and pick up a morellonomicon, although ive been liking getting the support item so that fiddlesticks doesnt have to facecheck bushes since he dies if he is unlucky, although everyone calls me troll when i buy it unfortunately

and alas this all from me watching pros on twitch and youtube, and my own limited experience so take it with a grain of salt

Odyssey85Dec 7, 20152 votes

Pretty nice grain of salt though, so thank you. What you're saying makes sense since he's pretty fragile for an AP jungler, unlike Diana or Maokai. I guess I'll start saving now in order to experience the power of a good ult [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] thanks for all the advice

ScoroctDec 7, 20151 votes

no problem, thanks for listening! :D

ScoroctDec 7, 20151 votes

http://www.lolking.net/guides/326321
hey figured id link this guide that has probably better item builds. cheers

Odyssey85Dec 8, 20151 votes

Oh wow, thank you again. This is super in depth, couldn't ask for any more. I really like the ult tips get the real crow for your storm. Seriously dude, you're the best summoner 14 Fiddlesticks

Kuroi86Dec 6, 20151 votes

YES!!!

badoogaDec 5, 20156 votes

With an autumn theme, his ult would be a bunch of leaves swirling around in an assortment of colors.

Avios1Dec 5, 20155 votes

With songbirds flowing through the chaos ^.^

QuortDec 5, 20152 votes

Really? Bard always seemed more like Fall to me. Fiddlesticks seems more the type to enjoy the bare, dead look of winter in my opinion.

UltraboomerDec 5, 20154 votes

but he's a scarecrow? scarecrows can be thought of as symbols of the harvest which occurs in autumn.

Baron PerenoldeDec 5, 20152 votes

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I love this so much, he reminds me of Janek the Green. However I feel that, given the differences between Hecarim and Bard, it copies Hecarim too directly and could have it's own creepy niche within the Elderwood. Another question I find myself asking is what to do for particles?

Autumn leaves for the ult, maybe. I think that could look cool

RiotKindlejackDec 6, 20154 votes

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Autumn leaves for the ult, maybe. I think that could look cool

For sure Autumn stuff sounds like a good direction. The first thing I thought was swirling orange leaves in his ult, although it is perhaps too peaceful for how devastating the ability is >xD

WeatheredDec 6, 20151 votes

Kindle, for real, use your rito powers to put this is the bank of skin ideas on the skin team. The skin cast has done an AWESOME job recently, and revamping this skin to fit an Autumn theme would honestly be one of the best skins I've seen in a long time. <3

RiotKindlejackDec 6, 20152 votes

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Kindle, for real, use your rito powers to put this is the bank of skin ideas on the skin team. The skin cast has done an AWESOME job recently, and revamping this skin to fit an Autumn theme would honestly be one of the best skins I've seen in a long time. <3

We are doing our best here! I'm really happy to see the response to skins this year. Thanks so much for the feedback >xD

WeatheredDec 7, 20151 votes

While your at it here are a few more ^.^ http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/5JlyqtIA-a-compilation-of-my-favorite-fan-made-skin-concepts-all-credit-given-too-creators

RiotKindlejackDec 7, 20151 votes

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While your at it here are a few more ^.^ http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/5JlyqtIA-a-compilation-of-my-favorite-fan-made-skin-concepts-all-credit-given-too-creators

Awesome. I do my best to check out all the fan concepts on the boards but there's a couple here I haven't seen before so thanks!

cleebyOct 5, 20161 votes

So it's autumn now. Is this still a thing. Cause I would really love it c: Maybe even with a pretty autumny backport and death animation (him getting some leaves that fall to the ground)

SettDownShutUpDec 5, 20151 votes

So for particles, we'd need to get a bit creative.

Razorleaf auto attack, Instead of him standing like a scarecrow his arm shoots out and begins leaching life with his ARM.

As for his E and Ultimate, honestly the regular particles almost fit right in. I mean he's a treefolk, might as well have some birds. Though perhaps not crows.

RiotKindlejackDec 6, 20158 votes

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So for particles, we'd need to get a bit creative.

Razorleaf auto attack, Instead of him standing like a scarecrow his arm shoots out and begins leaching life with his ARM.

As for his E and Ultimate, honestly the regular particles almost fit right in. I mean he's a treefolk, might as well have some birds. Though perhaps not crows.

Fiddle uses Razorleaf, it's not very effective...

Someone mentioned Owls. I like owls! They remind me of Penny Arcade's Thornwatch.

SettDownShutUpDec 6, 20151 votes

I LOVE those 7 page shorts. That flower lion at the end, GOD so beautiful.

RiotKindlejackDec 7, 20151 votes

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I LOVE those 7 page shorts. That flower lion at the end, GOD so beautiful.

Me too. My wife is a big fan of Faeries by Brian Froud, it comes from an era with films such as The Dark Crystal and Legend. I feel like that dark/storybook theme has been under-represented in games until more recently with titles like Ori and The Blind Forest, but I've always loved it.

TragicTrajectoryDec 6, 20151 votes

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Fiddle uses Razorleaf, it's not very effective...

Someone mentioned Owls. I like owls! They remind me of Penny Arcade's Thornwatch.

No more pax skins please.

Kuroi86Dec 6, 20151 votes

Elderwood Hecarim =Spring (Green) Elderwood Bard =Winter (Blue) Elderwood Fiddlesticks =Autumn (Red) Elderwood ??? =Summer? (Yellow?)

Sona PingDec 7, 20151 votes

I disagree. A Rioter once said something to the effect that for skins they enjoy "skins that are an alternate interpretation of the champion. Skins that provide an alternative fantasy or explore a new or different aspect of the character". This skin idea does that wonderfully; it provides an alternative reality for Fiddlesticks, one were he appears to be a tranquil spirit of the forest. It is far different from Elderwood Hecarim when we look at the details. http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/59/Hecarim_ElderwoodSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151119055536 Elderwood Hecarim is a gigantic Stag, taking form as a centaur-like spirit wearing stone ruins as barding, towering in presence, an ominous being great and terrible, threatening the power of nature.

Elderwood FIddlesticks looks entirely different. He looks organic, not looking constructed like Fiddlesticks normally does but appearing entirely as if he was grown, formed from wood that has spread and twisted together, that has grown over and collected what has surrounded it, like how plants actually do, reclaiming it for the forest. It looks like as if he has just developed from the growth of a flourishing tree, like a kind of Dryad of an Elderwood tree. It's not just that this splash looks amazing but this is a wonderful idea for a departure from how Fiddlesticks is usually portrayed, providing an interesting "alternative fantasy" for the champion. It would be a shame to scrap this idea for only a one-note "creepy" interpretation of Elderwood, a niche that he already has good representation, just because it shares the palette of Elderwood Hecarim while Elderwood Bard doesn't.