Which Champ has the Deadliest Poison?

Bu Ice··12 votes·3,804 views

Hey guys League of Science back with a new episode! Today we discover which champ has the deadliest poison IRL and how long you could survive their poison. We are still a new channel so we appreciate feedback and if you like this stuff a like, share and subscribe goes a long way for new channels! Thanks for all your support it has been amazing so far! [slayer-jinx-catface]

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Fack you Brad3 votes

Doesn't Elise also have venomous bite/neurotoxin? I know it isn't a poison DoT ability-wise but thematically it's a poison.

Bu Ice1 votes

Hey thanks for watching we appreciate the support! The poison users we used were ones that officially had the poison DoT, technically elise does have a poison/venom, as does shaco actually but the game doesn't code it that way for some reason. Also it would have ruined the thumbnail for anyone else to be on the team, first i make the thumbnail then I make the videos (lol jk!) but good points thanks again!

Gushis2 votes

Easiest answer, Riven mains are the most toxic

Bu Ice1 votes

Looks we missed out on a big time joke to slip into the video!

GinkoG1 votes

What was that effect over Twitch around the 1:50?

Bu Ice1 votes

Huh we didn't notice it the first time, that is a Gosu clip, it looks like it might just be an editing tool and not an ingame thing?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

Hm. I wonder if the effectiveness of the poison is actually lower than you calculated given the massive quantity of exposure. Twitch, Singed, and even Cassiopeia have to reapply their poison several times to kill a target, whereas your comparison to a cyanide pill is a single instance of poison. A single MILLIGRAM of some poisons can be lethal, making those real-world poisons likely far deadlier than League's, none of which are fully lethal upon one application.

The order of strength in League numbers seems correct, but I'm not sure about the real-world equivalents due to that. You're not taking dosage or number of applications into account, which will entirely throw off your poison statistics -- Teemo and Twitch have just a dart-worth of poison, after all, while Singed and Cassiopeia seem to be contact exposure or inhalation, both of which can also influence how strong a poison is.


Also, scientifically, I think ALL of these are poisons -- I believe venom is only used to refer to the toxic delivered specifically by a bite or sting from a creature. We don't know if Teemo is using animal venom for his darts (in which case they would be venom), but I suspect given his mushrooms (the poison of which I'm not sure you accounted for?) that they're plant-based toxic and thus poisonous, even though the wounds are injected -- even the delivery method DID make them a venom (which, again, I don't think it counts as unless the poison used is animal venom), then Twitch would ALSO be using venom, as they're projectiles as well.


Nit-picks aside, I did quite enjoy the video. Not as much as your previous ones though -- I think the exposure frequency/amount oversight detracts from the results of this one heavily, as does the fact that you averaged all of League's more than human characters at multiple levels to get the "average" human.

I think if you really want the "average" human you'd look at the level 1 stats (beginning of the journey) for the most "average" league characters -- probably something like the following:

  • Caitlyn
  • Draven
  • Ekko
  • Ezreal
  • Fiora
  • Jayce
  • Jhin
  • Katarina
  • Lucian
  • Lux
  • Miss Fortune
  • Quinn
  • Taliyah
  • Vayne
  • Sona
  • Yasuo

These characters, for the most part, are not known for their exceptional physical prowess, and do not have much in the way of powerful magic or training that helps them be more resilient than average. People like Lee Sin, Darius, Jarvan IV, Garen, etc. are exemplars of physical presence, and are likely on the high upper end of the human physical condition. I think these guys at level 1 would give you an example of the "standard" fragility of a Runeterra human.


Sorry. This is the sort of thing I love (and would totally have done if I had thought of the idea before seeing your production work), and I'm naturally an analytical guy, so I sort of dig too far into things sometimes. :P

Bu Ice1 votes

Hey man first don't every apologize to us for giving feed back and your ideas! We love hearing from our viewers and starting a discussion, that is what this was all really about. I am a fan of science and the maths, and I wish I could study all them more intensely I am picked my niche and try to do my best with the others! Now to your points I hope my formating is correct lol

So we tried our best to find a way to calculate how strong a poison or venom is via scale or even a unit. We went to the snake reddit after finding what is called an LD 50. This test takes subjects like 60 dogs, 60 cats etc and injected or force them to ingest the poison. Then they stop the test when 50 % of the subjects have died. This method still doesn't yield a very good sense of how strong is a poison besides the death to time with the mg/bodymass. So we were doing an up hill battle from the beginning with trying to compare in game poisons to real world, because we don't really have a good measuring tool in the real world!

So when we ran the testing the way we decided was to see how long would exposure to all of their poisons take to kill the subject. This is for sure a flawed method but we tried finding another way to calculate it but it was quite difficult to.

After going back, where teemo receives his toxins from will define what we call it, you are probably right o assume it is a poison because his mushrooms are poison because they are deadly when touched (probably eaten as well) We will make a footnote but keep it in the video in hopes that riot backs us up in canon one day lol

I had arguments with myself over which humans to use, I do l like your list a lot, and we may decide to use it for future human videos. We decided to keep some humans off the list such as Viktor who is basically a robot and Naut who is just the suit now.

Again please don't apologize we love the feedback and to see the passion this can bring out of people! Why not make a series like this one? Do the same tests and see if you get the same results! That is what science is, nobody was like this Newton fellow has it right let's just take his word for it and not continue on his ideas! Take the leap of faith try it out and let's see what you can do!

Bu Ice1 votes

Thanks for the support guys sorry about late replies, it was getting late in Barcelona. I won't be back in the states until Thursday

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