the combo limit would be 4
if its udyr
[10:52PM] Trinth: have like... bear stance turn into ram stance after a spell is cast. have him dash forward and nit just run.
[10:52PM] Rai825: and for like a lvl 4 pheonix, it turns to a dragon stance blast aka dragon roar
doing massive ap burst
or something
[10:54PM] Trinth: i really like that idea
[10:54PM] Rai825: for bear, it would be a grapple
[10:54PM] Trinth: would make ap udyr a big thing tho... and i dont like it enough
[10:55PM] Rai825: like a lvl 4 bear would be a throw or slam
[10:55PM] Trinth: and if you hit lvl 5 in an ability, it wouldbe... hmm... idk
[10:55PM] Rai825: im just imagining a full combo of mashing Q. just being like JoJo
ORAORAORAORA
[10:56PM] Trinth: OROROROROROOROROROOROR
RURURURURURURURURU
[10:56PM] Rai825: lol
besides
[10:56PM] Trinth: i really do think it could be a good champion in its own right. but it would be really good grounds for an Udy rework
[10:57PM] Rai825: it wouldnt make udyr too op anyways. because he already just mashes his skills anyway. It would just make him a little more interesting :D
and a Huge outplay potential
[10:57PM] Trinth: bring a lot more to the table, peel for his adc, make him tankier, 1v1's would be... interesting to say at the least.
[10:59PM] Rai825: like pheonix 1 = fire sweep making a sunfire ring for like 3 seconds pheonix 2-3 would be ap enhanced strikes. then pheonix 4 /dragon roar would make him shoot a blast of flame that scales better
and has more base dammage
[10:59PM] Trinth: i like that idea, but wouldnt that be a lot of coding?
[10:59PM] Rai825: not really
think about it
they would just have the base 4 skills
then it would create a passive proc
and for each proc, would change the abilities
[11:00PM] Trinth: i guess :
:3 *
or... maybe bear stance lvl 4 would be a bear hug that you could move someone (like skarner ult) but y'know ... not as long
[11:00PM] Rai825: besides. It would keep udyr from getting a free rapid fire cannon's worth of attack speed
nah. I think it would be more like a pounce
or a knockup
[11:01PM] Trinth: or Aoe Stun, bear sweep or something
[11:01PM] Rai825: or just like
a gragas e
body slam. lol
and turtle... mmm turtle would be interesting
[11:02PM] Trinth: Adamantoise...
https://www.google.com/search?q=adamantoise&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii6o2H_7fMAhUF2yYKHT0xAcUQ_AUIBigB
or... some other turtle name cuz that's a Square Enix name
[11:03PM] Rai825: turtle 1= normal turtle stance.* turtle 2-3= thornmail -like effect. * turtle 4= a counter. that negates an aa and reflects the dammage back, along with scaling his own ad/ap
[11:03PM] Trinth: so... like old fiora parry?
YOU'RE SO MUCH BETTER AT THIS THAN ME
[11:04PM] Rai825: i mean. it would give him utility for other aa champs
making it 1. WAY more useful
because turtle is kinda
ehh
[11:05PM] Trinth: i mean it's literally just a filler, while you wait for the bear stun cd to go away
[11:05PM] Rai825: and also, it would make udyr so much better at combat and utility all around
BUT
with the bear change. the speed would only proc on bear 1
and turtle would only proc on turtle 1
so
it would be a good thing, limiting him on how to run away
get a shield? or get a speed boost?
[11:07PM] Trinth: yee :3
[11:07PM] Rai825: it would nerf his movement
increase his fighting ability
while also increase in utility
[11:08PM] Trinth: yee ;3 WHY ARE YOU SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME AT THIS T_T IM JEALOUS
[11:08PM] Rai825: im an engineer :3
so im trained to think
[11:08PM] Trinth: slap
[11:08PM] Rai825: im being serious. lol
im a softmore, but with all my school ive been doing, i could be in college if i chose to. lol
[11:09PM] Trinth: slapslapslapslap TURNS INTO TARIC SUPERSLAPSUPERSLAP
[11:09PM] Rai825: lol
it would also be good
because it would nerf udyr's attack speed passive.
because he wouldnt get that bonus attack speed
so if you went into a fight, you would have to know what your doing as an udyr
and it would make him less fucking broken eg
it would be an all around buff to combat, but a nerf to movement, but also make him even MORE mana heavy
[11:11PM] Trinth: lel
[11:11PM] Rai825: I just think it would really improve how the classic udyr is known for
besides from speed, shields, and OPEN THE FUCKING GATES
[11:12PM] Trinth: i would love to see Trick rage lmao
[11:12PM] Rai825: xD
[11:20PM] : i mean
just imagine
[11:20PM] Trinth: ?
[11:20PM] Rai825: an udyr just using the tiger 1-3 ora's against a jax
then jax uses e
[11:20PM] Trinth: lmaooo
[11:21PM] Rai825: *passive would reset in like 5-3 seconds
5 at lvl 1. 3 by lvl 18
[11:21PM] Trinth: yeee
[11:21PM] Rai825: so those 3 seconds
would be an eee
W
just imagine a jax w
getting counter'd
[11:21PM] Trinth: huehuehue
[11:21PM] Rai825: just all that dammage and more being reflected
and it would have to be so perfect and specific
ap jax =
1000-1500 ap dammage at max lvl
[11:22PM] Trinth: the terror :3 Trick2G would have to actually Git Gud
[11:23PM] Rai825: imagine all that being reflected by an udyr turtle 4. along with whatever udyr's armor scaling is
turtle 4 would probably scale with armor or health, definately
[11:23PM] Trinth: just imagine the trick rage. ON HOW HE'D HAVE TO GET GOOD HAHAHAHHAHA
sry i dont like him
[11:23PM] Rai825: xD np
udyr is hard to use as he is now
sortof
you just have to have a brain
[11:24PM] Trinth: .... okayyyyy
[11:24PM] Rai825: but if you use this new udyr rework idea... it be so much better for a skill scaling
[11:24PM] Trinth: low skill floor high skill ceiling kind of deal?
[11:24PM] Rai825: very
noobs could just spam Q being jojo
but pros would be using a mix of turtle, pheonix, bear
and occasionally turtle
[11:25PM] Trinth: having a Dragon Udyr Split push playstyle... kinda scary
[11:25PM] Rai825: yea. because just spamming r
would just do great pushing
spamming bear = utility and speed
spamming turtle = utility and defence
[11:26PM] Trinth: or... what if you'd have to use a different ability, you couldnt use both skills as the same change
[11:26PM] Rai825: that would be too limiting
because then how will he farm at lvl 1?
[11:26PM] Trinth: true....
[11:27PM] Rai825: should I just send this whole convo on the page?
[11:27PM] Trinth: idgaf XD i guess the more ideas the better for Riot, ez work for them
