Swain rework

A rework involves new abilities, not the same ones with nerfs.

That's not a rework, its a flat nerf.

IMO I would rather Riot fully rework him and do the character theme better justice with a modernized kit and cool new mechanics.

New Swain is going to be so different that these things won't apply.

As for the idea, both are not good for Swain, imo. You really don't want Swain rebalanced around W not dealing damage. That's some of his only unreliable damage. If you take that away, you'd have to give him damage back that was more reliable to keep him balanced, thus exacerbating the entire problem with him.

R changes could work, maybe, but again I think you'd have to increase either the damage or the heal to balance it that way, and that's probably not something that would be healthy. Just my two cents.

so many things wrong here, first of all wrong board. second, just no. third, thats not a rework thats a nerf. fourth, those would make him such trash tier i would refuse to ever play him again and if i ever got him in a random pick i would dodge

Those are nerfs based on the current kit. The rework that is coming will feature a massively changed kit as he is a large scale champion update like Galio, Sion, ect. Not a smaller one like Warwick or the upcoming Evelynn.