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Skarner re-rework PLEASE

erniesmooth··4 votes·945 views

So Im one of the three people on earth who actually main Skarner. After his rework i felt like they stripped him from his identity with that ridiculous mini game and i have a couple of ideas that could help. If you want to help Skarner, rid him of his Q. Its unfair to see the skill cap of a champion be limited to the power of one ability. besides the fact that this is an boring and outdated ability. his new q would be an aoe attack coming from Skarners pincers. this attack would damage any enemies to the left and right of Skarner. Imagine illaoi's tentacle smash but there are two coming out of her left and right side smashing the ground. His w would still be his shield and speed up but now if you reactivate his ability he gives up his shield for an empowered his q, giving his next basic attack a slow, and having his q damage in front of him in an aoe rather than on his sides. His e can stay the same since skarner still needs some hard cc but you could also make it so that skarner teleports to the first champion he hits. His ult, as unique as it is must be changed. I would like to see skarner in competitive play and that will never happen with his current ult. The solution is extremely simple, make his ult a medium ranged skill shot that if landed brings his target towards him (Skarner wont be able to move while his enemy is brought towards him). This new ult emphasizes team work and individual skill. His passive would still be his spires but whenever skarner is within their aura, his q turns into a skill shot.

I would enjoy the hell out of this rework and hope to see it come to life. the crystal scar is gone but it lives on within skarner. Post your own ideas and criticize my own.

15 Comments

ItsCalledALance1 votes

wasn't he just reworked?

legionnaire991 votes

He wants that rework that rework

erniesmooth1 votes

Thanks i spent a long time trying to come up with meaningful ideas for his kit.

erniesmooth1 votes

yeah he was but i felt he wasn't done any justice. they practically changed his stats and gave him spires. Riot is going to look at Fiora again so why not give some love to the scorpion that never got any.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

i miss the "vanilla" skarner. the old season 2 skarner.

the one that didn't suck or have stupid spires

Alpha Skarner1 votes

Fear not brother, for I too am one of the three Skarner mains in this world.

Now I'm pretty sure Riot mentioned something way back like a month or two ago that they are unsatisfied with Skarner's rework and are working something out for him. If I remember correctly, they mentioned his primary issue is his identity: Fighter or Tank. From there, they will be able to fix Skarner's kit. Don't quote me on that though, I just vaguely remember something like that.

erniesmooth1 votes

i cant believe my eyes. the second has appeared. lol ty for checking my post out. I cant remember if they ever mentioned him after his rework. everyone was focused on mordekaiser. LEAVE A LIKE

corals2 votes

I just heard that they would be posting a retrospective. Let's all leave posts @Repertoire to ask him to leave the retropspective. 3 skarner mains of the world unite!

SinfulArtisan1 votes

I used to main skarner jungle before the rework and all I have to say is this: Changing or removing his Q to make it attack to the side would kill his jungle dominance, as well as make trinity force practically useless on him. The spire idea (while bad) is slightly useful for map control if used right. and finally, why give his Q a slow when his E slows already? Instead of trying to change a champions kit, how bout changing your build to fit to what you need?

erniesmooth1 votes

Firstly these changes were meant to make skarner viable anywhere on the map. skarners rework, as compared to shen's, limits him strictly to the jungle. I've mained him since i began playing which was the begining of season 5. I would go top and supp as well as jungle. I suggest you play him now since many things have changed. (no one goes tri force they go ice born now if even at all) .Secondly, I had specified that within his spires his q would be a skillshot. The only camp in which you would have to use your regular q would be the boulders, and youre telling me you cant auto attack then click to turn his body being able to use the regular q. These are basic kitting mechanics (PLEASE dont play adc). And finally the slow on his q is intended to help with his chasing when he isn't around his spires. But thanks for the criticism. BTW these changes would make skarner a top tier jungle pick in lower and middle elos. Thanks for the critique

SinfulArtisan1 votes

The thing about kiting as a melee champ is, it doesnt work. You still get hit the same amount of times for the same amount of damage. all it does is take longer for your auto attacks or make you feel like you are doing more because you are clicking more. ALSO, you have no say in what roles I play so to ask me not to play ADC based off of my input on a JUNGLER is asinine. and LASTLY, if you make his Q a skillshot INSIDE HIS SPIRES but a side attack OUTSIDE OF THE SPIRES as you put it how the fuck do you presume adding a slow to it will help AT ALL when the majority of your enemies will be infront of you running away. REREAD WHAT YOU TYPE before making an ass out of yourself; but hey, Thanks for your input. And btw, I've played skarner since season 3 and what you are asking for is a HUGE nerf to his jungle/ganking just so you can get your jollies off as a support again.

erniesmooth1 votes

By kitting the camps as a melee champion you force the camp to start its walking animation. If used right you can cancel a camps attack animation. "Pants are dragon" a challenger jungler uses this trick in his videos. look him up. Also skarners new w would make his q hit in-front of him rather than on his sides and give that q a slow to help skarner catch champions. I even said this on my original post. and as for the Q being a skill shot inside his spires, this would help him against counter junglers and camps since he could easily aim his Q at an invading champion. Your more focused with trying to get the last laugh when you should be focused on a way to creatively use these cool abilities.

corals1 votes

I have played skarner a lot since his release, and I don't want his Q changed at all. Also would feel bad if his R were changed to a skill shot, since that would probably make him pretty similar to Blitz crank. Though I would be open. I wouldn't mind if he lost the instant nature of it though if it helps his balance. Maybe make it like the old three stack passive, if you stack three spells on an enemy champion you can R them. Then lower the cooldown a bunch.

Don't change his Q, what I have always liked about Skarner is that he had open itemization, his itemization closed down with the current changes a little bit and that makes me sad.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

I like Skarner how he is now, spires and everything. I think there are issues, though.

He doesn't capture the 'Juggernaut' fantasy very well, even by his spires. Out of all of the Juggernauts, besides maybe Mordekaiser, he is the most kitable. Garen removes slows with his Q. Darius pulls people. Illaoi grabs someone's spirit. Skarner has his ult, but it's short range, and a slow moving skillshot slow.

Maybe, while his W shield is active, give him some slow suppression. It would promote Skarner building health items to beef up his shield, to keep the movement speed and slow suppression going. And higher ramp up damage for his Q. It's damage is very lackluster - Atm, all of Skarner's damage comes from items he builds, like Iceborn Gauntlet and Cinderhulk. He doesn't actually deal much damage on his own, and that should be remedied.

He also has no way to sustain in a fight. While Garen doesn't either, Garen has his passive to restore him after a skirmish. Darius, Illaoi, and Mordekaiser all have constant sustain in fights through healing or shielding. Skarner just has his weak W shield.

Some self healing would be appreciated. Maybe someone akin to his old OLD OLD E, where it marked targets struck, and he healed himself when he damaged a marked target.

corals1 votes

I kinda liked his original E, I build it with liandry's occasionally, which caused all the healing to proc instantly.

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