Somes IDEAS for UDYR tweaking rework and other though. Hope Some dev will take the time to check out

Lil Patata·2/24/2020, 6:02:40 PM·1 votes·1,984 views

Hi everyone, First, my english is bad. It's my second language so i'll try to make my point as clear as possible. I want to share somes ideas I got for small rework that may be use by the dev if they find them interesting enough. I don't even know if they have time to read our post or if they do, will consider them or not. Riot love to make new champions but while doing that they kill older one so at the end you dont have a bigger pool of champion to play but just more recent one. I think they should focus more on reworking old one and stop making new one cause they waste good ideas. QUALITY over QUANTITY.

So firstly, I am a main Udyr player since season 5 approximatly, and over time he is becoming really old looking and his kit make the guy really fall behind. When you have ''proguides''s videos telling you he is not even a champions because he lack a proper ult or mechanics meant to fit his identity of a juggernaut you know you should do something about it. So hear me out, The important thing i think riot want to keep about him is: the simplicity for new players, the identity of the champions must be clear and unique, and maybe something else. For me, what i like about him is that he is versatile in a way that you can go tank/bruiser and you can play many ways, but he lack teamfight potential a proper ult like i said before and he is stuck to jungle because his mana pool fall short quicker than nothing else in lane versus other champions that dont even use it anymore. I will give you guys all the stats tweaking but here my idea for ability.

Passive: I know everyone when they talk about Udyr say that his passive sucks... I have not found something really interesting, but since Udyr is a spiritual chamanic looking guys. I feel like he could used his environment to make him stronger. Like Quiyana use elemental attrait of Summoner rift, Udyr could used creature or his stance may have a bonus in different area ( turtle in river tiger in lane bear in forest/jg pheonix around dragon and baron). A quick tough would be to used elemental drake ( fire drag make his R stronger, earth his E, wind is Q and water his W )baron and or rift and or elder could give something else or more. You could use the jg camp but if you choose that, you lose the potential to be a laner so i dont know. This is 2 little idea that may be a starting point ;).

Q: mostly the same but give the movement speed boost of the e/ or give a little leap foward if u want to make it a skill shot. ( it will give him the same mobility or a bit more). This will be his main dmmg too. Tiger have quick feet and are ferocious. So he keep his running around stuff and a focus on dammage. ( not force to choose ad/ap tiger vs pheonix)

W: You can choose to keep the shield/lifesteal or tweak it. As a juggernaut I see him be a disrupter in teamfight so you could choose to go hard in the back line or peel so for turtle stance i was thinking about defensive vs offensive between W and Q. W would be a dammage or CC reduction while active but u get slower since turtle are slow but resistant. If you say why i should use W and slow myself rather than use Q so i get quicker and dodge any cc or dmmg incoming, well i would say that you have a point xD. I think it's to help new player or less good player just to survive a bit if they miss their E or misplace themself with R( read under). PLus CC reduction like Garen W is simple enough.

E: take off his mvm speed buff and put on Q. Make that spell an aoe bear slap that stunt/displace ennemys. It will be better for team fighting since u can get more than 1 guy, it will become a melee skillshot rather than running at the guys not being able to catch him because he have 1-3 possibility to jump a wall.

R: finally the R, It will be what make the build interesting, What lack the most in udyr kit with all the new champions his is mobility/gap clsing ability. He was known to be the uncatchable super sanic and now everyone just jumping around and he cant even catch a mouse anymore. Pheonix stance should be a way to redemption, and make him leap a small distance like one big wing flaping and on landing he make fire waves around him. Like circle of fire that burst around like a pheonix would should fire beneath him. The cooldown of this ability (with 40% cd in mind) would be short enough to be used like udyr is use to switch a lot between spell, but since its a ultimate make the dammage lower... I see it like half a normal ult half the R we know today... normal ult exemple would be around 200/250/300 so cut that number in half so something like 100/125/150 (nothing to huge) but used more than once in late game teamfight so exemple if normal ult CD have 160/130/100 ( with 0% cd) make Udyr's R 100/80/60..or a bit lower ( i have not done the math for lower cd) it will be used in early game to gank but a way you can't spam it in each gank. It might be used once or twice in mid game fights and late game u could engage/disengage more frequently.

It will be played like this for exemple: You go in with R try to slam 1 or more member with E and choose to fight with Q or tank dmmg with W (Q make him fast so he can focus down a target that was make him scary as a juggernaut and tiger are fast and scary ;) while W make you more tanky since you're in the 5 men ennemy team but you cant run easily aways because you have movement reduction) I think it keep what make Udyr fun while giving him something that ''humph'' his gameplay.

This kit will make him stay almost the same but will give him the possibility to identify himself as a true juggernaut,stay simple enough to new player, reenforce his identity of spiritual guardian( if you find something for his passive) and overall stay balance. You have one gap closing/escape ult that you can use more often later in the game with the potential to stunt multiple ennemy at once like most tank or some juggernaut that disrupt( darius E), and from there you choose to fight with Q or reduce your chance of dying with W while being a bit handicap. It would be lame to be super tanky and running fast at the adc. If it's your plan you will need to put yourself in a more squishier stance to catch up so you can get hit enough if you missplay.

If you read everything well thanks ! I just wanted to share that idea and maybe make a Dev like @reav or someone else read it :) I have some other ideas for akali and skarner but since i dont know what people would think about that, I rather try with only 1 ;) . If you guys have other ideas better one well please do so i would like to read them :)

1 Comments

Lil Patata2/25/2020, 12:48:31 AM1 votes

I've read some post about some rework and someone talk about making his W a shield zone for his team. That could be interesting too no? But other seem to like the auto attack bot and less technical approach