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LOL is outdated. should Riot update and how long we would have to wait ?

v Big Boss v··1 votes·1,195 views

When LOL was released it already looks like 2006 game. I know they upg whole engine and other stuff, every things have their limits. Even if the game today looks kinda good. the very core, foundation are outdated. Just look how 2016 games looks like. all those physics geometry, animation in modern game. its just beautiful. I know its a lot of work to make basically a new game. but sooner or later Riot will have to do something. and more stuff they add more longer their wait, more work they will have. How much time take to make new game like LOL ? basically its just 3? maps, over 100 champions and skins. If they start making new engine. and while game today, in 2019 probably it will be released. and i wonder how good games will look in 2019

the only problem is that people with older PC would be not able to run 2015/16 standards (AAA) games. but its up to developer to optimize game so players with lowend PC could play game just by lowering settings. also i dont wanna game be hold back because of players with lowend PC. sooner or later they will have to buy new hardware. my pc in not that good (i5. 6gb ram. R9 280) but i would love to see some interaction with map terrain, based on player action. just imagine if lee ult you and you champion fly through wall. and destroy some pice of that wall, broken tree or some rock. just a visual thing. right now every knockup character looks the same. i would like to see diffrent animation based on what action were used. If lee kicks you in stomach then your character is huddled (dnt know is that a good word) I think you know what i mean. What do you think about this? i would like to see some rioter says hes thoughts

cheers. sry for my bad english

17 Comments

ghood4life6 votes

A game like LOL doesn't need to look good.

ModThe Djinn6 votes

So, a few things that are important here.

1 -- League is designed for high clarity, as it's a major e-sport. This is why almost all knock-ups look the same, for example. It's also something that means the simpler, more cartoony graphics help, since big bold shapes and colors are super easy to distinguish. This is also why there isn't unnecessary terrain interaction -- if a visual has no effect other than a visual one, it probably doesn't belong in the game. This is why we can toggle off even the small critters that run around the Rift.

2 -- League is designed to last a long time with its graphics. We've seen something similar with World of Warcraft and Team Fortress 2: the non-realistic graphics really help the game age well, and let you flow graphics updates in pretty smoothly. I expect to see something similar happen with Overwatch in the future.

3 -- Every thing you add drastically increases dev time. Unique animations across the entire cast for every character in the game? If Lee Sin has a unique kick hit animation for everyone, that's 140 new animations. If each character has only ONE ability, and it only interacts with champion models specifically, that's 19,600 new animations. If each animator can design a PERFECT animation twice per day, this will take 1 animator 26 years, or 10 animators 2.6 years. And two perfect animations per day is...optimistic, since you have to account for weekends, vacations, testing, and so forth. This is why games that have this wide a cast typically don't have custom animations.

zrWQMdGHtY4 votes

The game looks awesome as it is, but lets make it so that 90% of hte ppl cant play it if they dont have 16 ram and 12 core CPUs and the newest GPUs... right?

v Big Boss v1 votes

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The game looks awesome as it is, but lets make it so that 90% of hte ppl cant play it if they dont have 16 ram and 12 core CPUs and the newest GPUs... right?

LOL looks awsome? did you see Uncharted 4? horizon zero dawn ? witcher 3 those games looks AWESOME. and how did you come up with those 90% did you check door to door every player in the world, what hardware they have? i cant imagine that LOL would look the same in 2020.

ModThe Djinn6 votes

[{quoted}](name=v Big Boss v,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5AEEpdTH,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2016-07-25T14:45:42.620+0000)LOL looks awsome? did you see Uncharted 4? horizon zero dawn ? witcher 3 those games looks AWESOME.

While aiming at a very different aesthetic, yes. Those are all aiming for realism. League is not.

and how did you come up with those 90% did you check door to door every player in the world, what hardware they have?

Steam did, actually (via online survey and getting information from Steam user's machines). Among gamers this is the most common rig:

Windows 10 8GM system ram (4GB was the next most common) 2.5 GHz processor 2 physical CPUs NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 ---The Video Card is skewed a bit though, as it only takes the highest single percentage and only accounts for specific models, rather than card ability ranges. Older cards were far more common, but the SPECIFIC card wasn't consistent, so this data point is wildly inaccurate. 1 GB of VRAM 1920x1080 or 1366x768 resolution

i cant imagine that LOL would look the same in 2020.

Well, no, because technology progresses. But you don't go rebuilding your entire game every few years. Takes Dev time away from more productive things. As long as the game still looks GOOD ENOUGH you probably don't have to touch it.

zrWQMdGHtY3 votes

You too fast >_< Thanks for answering instead of me <3

Too Ton2 votes

rather the game remain fairly "good" (hate dq but core game still there) and not turn into the new runescape eoc/evolution of crap

v Big Boss v1 votes

just like food. doesn't need to taste good to feed you. but we like tasty food, right ?

420 grams1 votes

My computer already can't play overwatch. Don't take league from me too

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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My computer already can't play overwatch. Don't take league from me too

Out of curiosity, what are you running system-wise? There are a few settings you can tweak outside the game that reduce the settings below the normally allowable minimum levels that, if you're CLOSE to being able to run it, might give you the edge you need. This is, of course, assuming you have the game to test.

420 grams1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5AEEpdTH,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-07-25T15:03:49.555+0000)

Out of curiosity, what are you running system-wise? There are a few settings you can tweak outside the game that reduce the settings below the normally allowable minimum levels that, if you're CLOSE to being able to run it, might give you the edge you need. This is, of course, assuming you have the game to test.

Intel I5, windows 10, 6 GB DDR3, and Intel 4400 graphics

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Intel I5, windows 10, 6 GB DDR3, and Intel 4400 graphics

Hm. With that the best you'll be able to do is probably 20-25fps, and that's with most settings completely minimized. The Intel graphics are the killer there.

That said, if you already own the game (wouldn't recommend buying it with that computer, since this might not work), check out this link: http://segmentnext.com/2016/05/07/overwatch-pc-tweaks-guide/

In there are instructions for changing your .ini file to force Overwatch to the lowest settings possible. Note that you may want to go in afterwards and lower the render scale to 50%, which I'm not sure it does by default -- this will drastically lower your screen resolution, but it DOES increase FPS significantly.

RogueWill1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5AEEpdTH,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-25T15:56:22.141+0000)

Hm. With that the best you'll be able to do is probably 20-25fps, and that's with most settings completely minimized. The Intel graphics are the killer there.

That said, if you already own the game (wouldn't recommend buying it with that computer, since this might not work), check out this link: http://segmentnext.com/2016/05/07/overwatch-pc-tweaks-guide/

In there are instructions for changing your .ini file to force Overwatch to the lowest settings possible. Note that you may want to go in afterwards and lower the render scale to 50%, which I'm not sure it does by default -- this will drastically lower your screen resolution, but it DOES increase FPS significantly.

Actually I did run the game on my laptop which has I7, 8GB Ram and essentially the same video card. it run at 50fps but would overheat quite fast. Settings was obviously at the lowest possible and render was adjusted accordingly (I play mostly melee so I didn't need high rending to begin with). It runs better on my desktop but pieces are hard to get where I live and I basically have to import every single one of them(which is most of the times twice as expensive so a 2k rig ends up becoming close to 5k) so I really don't enjoy my rig becoming obsolete so fast, I can't change it every 2 years anymore so if a game ages well I rather it stays with cartoonish looks and low performance requirements

v Big Boss v1 votes

Looks like people with wood pc dont wanna any changes :D

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=v Big Boss v,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5AEEpdTH,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-07-25T17:55:56.365+0000)

Looks like people with wood pc dont wanna any changes :D

Not entirely. I don't want changes for aesthetic reasons (I think League looks great, and doesn't NEED current hyper-realistic graphics or fancier effects) and for reaching a greater number of players, but my machine has NOTHING to do with it. I'm running an i7-6700K with 16GB of RAM and a GTX 1070. I can hit about 800fps on League if I turn FPS caps off. I break 110 on Overwatch on Epic settings.

But that doesn't mean I need League any fancier than it is. :P

v Big Boss v1 votes

any game that is not evolve soner ot later gonna die. and leauge have over 7 years. and progress LOL did i so small. not only graphics... many player play LOL because they put soo much money into it (include my self) that why they dont wanna jump to other game

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