Another "Oh noes, terribad Fiora!" thread

SHIFTartemis13··2 votes·607 views

So there have been a lot of threads relating to the Fiora rework (Concerning both her gameplay AND her aesthetics) and I wanted to weigh in.

First, I am not a fan of her gameplay change. I'm not entirely sure why they felt she needed tweaking, but it feels as though it stems from an outcry of "OP CHAMPION IS OP!" While I agree that she can be an extremely devastating, a lot of that stems from her opposition and how they play. If you have a bad player, or someone who is just having an off day, she can become fed and snowball rather quickly. Being as item-reliant as she is, that can easily make her nigh untouchable.

This would, understandably, make her seem overpowered; however, any champion in the hands of a skilled player can seem overpowered. I've had match-ups with Quinn, for example, where she would demolish everyone. On the flip side, I've seen her played terribly. Blitzcrank support can be amazing, or it can be horrible. A champion is only as good as the player controlling them.

I feel that Fiora was in a good place and a rework was frivolous and unnecessary. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, because it heavily biased, I will admit. While I enjoy trying out new champions and roles, I primarily stick to support, simply because I don't have the mindset for damage dealing. Having said that, however, I found myself thoroughly enjoying Fiora, and I feel as though I'm quite competent and -- dare I say -- good with her. My best match was a 3v3, having two bots for teammates. I secured a single-handed win going 32/2/0. I'm still not entirely sure how I managed it, but it happened. She is a true Assassin, relying on quick strikes and getaways. She's powerful, but easily shut down if caught out of position or played badly. I honestly cannot wrap my head around why they feel the need to rework her kit, but I find myself lamenting the loss of one of my favourite champions.

The other point, which has been harped on again and again, is her art design. I know Riot is going for a more "stylized" visual, but her new artwork and in-game models are simply awful. I don't claim to be artistic enough to do any better, but I don't know what they're going for. It's one thing to redesign a champion's kit, but a visual rework that completely overhauls their look as well? They truly should have introduced an entirely new champion. This is not a rework; this is not an overhaul; this is a completely new character with no ties to her former self. Her eyes are far too large, her features too pronounced (i.e. Her chin and cheekbones), and the redesign of her skins are laughable.

I know my opinion won't change the inevitability of a loss of a good champion, but I still feel like pitching my two cents in. This is technically a free-to-play game, so I'm not "losing" anything. I am, however, one very disappointed customer.

RIP Fiora , you will be missed.

4 Comments

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Fiora was a toxic champ which didn't leave a lot of room for her opponent to fight. Her ult turned any close battle in her favor, which for such a "duelist" who wants a fair battle to show her skill, does not show it much. It turns her into "Hahahah this is such a fair fight right? Because not being able to hit me at all IS SO FAIR"

Weirdpersonx1 votes

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Fiora was a toxic champ which didn't leave a lot of room for her opponent to fight. Her ult turned any close battle in her favor, which for such a "duelist" who wants a fair battle to show her skill, does not show it much. It turns her into "Hahahah this is such a fair fight right? Because not being able to hit me at all IS SO FAIR"

A lot of champions have abilities that have that kind of effect. That doesn't mean that it's an auto win. I've seen a Fiora ult that exactly 200 damage to me--and I was the first target. Fiora is only as good as the person that plays her, and as to not leaving a lot of room to fight, have you never seen a fiora lose? There are plenty of ways to fight her, the most effective of which is a simple root, which plenty of champions have. Besides, have you ever built a Zhonya's? Or played Fizz?

Sincerely,

~Wpx

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Three people have invulnerabilities. Fizz, Vlad, and soon to be no longer, Fiora. And yes the old "just cc her" argument, as if that doesn't count for everyother champ save, Irelia, Olaf, etc.

And yes let me build a Zhoynas on a fighter... Or just always play Fizz... Those solutions are not viable for everyone.

Let me push this into perspective. They cannot buff current Fiora, due to her snowball potential in lane. And if they nerf her, she becomes less then playable. This is the sign of an unhealthy kit. She either wins or loses lane, with the middle meaning she wont contribute much in the late game. That is the problem they're trying to fix, to make her a less of a Feast-or-Famine ability.

I noticed you also ignored/didn't reply about her ult ad Fiora's character. Fiora is a duelist, and in her lore, it shows she wants a fair fight, due to the disdain of her father's cheating. So why would a duelist who wants a fair fight, make a fight one-sided? Explain that, if you could.

Weirdpersonx1 votes

{quoted}

Three people have invulnerabilities. Fizz, Vlad, and soon to be no longer, Fiora. And yes the old "just cc her" argument, as if that doesn't count for everyother champ save, Irelia, Olaf, etc.

And yes let me build a Zhoynas on a fighter... Or just always play Fizz... Those solutions are not viable for everyone.

Let me push this into perspective. They cannot buff current Fiora, due to her snowball potential in lane. And if they nerf her, she becomes less then playable. This is the sign of an unhealthy kit. She either wins or loses lane, with the middle meaning she wont contribute much in the late game. That is the problem they're trying to fix, to make her a less of a Feast-or-Famine ability.

I noticed you also ignored/didn't reply about her ult ad Fiora's character. Fiora is a duelist, and in her lore, it shows she wants a fair fight, due to the disdain of her father's cheating. So why would a duelist who wants a fair fight, make a fight one-sided? Explain that, if you could.

You bring up a good point, and I was replying mostly just because you called her a "toxic champion" There are only 4 of those that I can think of: Teemo, Twitch, Singed, and Cassiopia. I don't really have a problem with the rest of your argument.

And just saying, I have built zhonyas on a fighter. Trynda!

~Wpx

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