Please tone down the iron fisted moderation

Rapthorne··10 votes·1,700 views

I have been a forum moderator across many projects over several years, ranging from game publisher forums, to self help forums for vulnerable teenagers and young adults suffering mental health issues, and I have never seen such insane levels of moderation on a forum.

I get it, it's your website, your rules, and all that fun stuff, but please consider easing up on the moderation. Overzealous moderation only hurts the community in the long run. People in the in game general discussion chat room (Mostly consisting of forum users from all of the old league forums, not just General Discussion) have expressed extreme discontent with the moderation, and cited that (among other problems that it's clear won't be resolved at this point) as key reasons why they no longer post on the boards. When people are afraid of getting punished for the slightest thing, people just won't post. It's already been stated that forum infractions may impact your game account, and even I myself am hesitant to post here for fear I say something wrong and get my account (on which I have spent roughly $850 or more) banned.

A culture of censorship isn't how forums should be. Moderators should encourage polite and respectful interaction between players, but the "don't be a jerk" rule needs a massive overhaul and to be given specific penalties for specific infractions, rather than "not being a jerk" varying based on whoever happens to be moderating at the time.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, if you actually did. Have some kog/lulu cuteness as a reward.

16 Comments

Jamaree5 votes

It isn't that bad, just don't insult people and don't post pron and you are golden.

Haeval5 votes

If I had kids, I wouldn't let them ANYWHERE NEAR these forums, if I went by the last few years. I think a form of censorship is fine. What I think ISN'T fine is people who decide that free speech = shooting their mouth off at anyone they want because they don't believe there will be consequences.

Miku Append2 votes

Agreed. They just need to make the forums mark curse words and slurs as spam and give that user a 2 hour post penalty.

GranspearZX3 votes

Any time someone doesn't understand how free speech works, I have this on standby.

Haeval1 votes

Any time someone doesn't understand how free speech works, I have this on standby.

Yes :)

Dv4nt1 votes

If I had kids, I wouldn't let them ANYWHERE NEAR these forums, if I went by the last few years. I think a form of censorship is fine. What I think ISN'T fine is people who decide that free speech = shooting their mouth off at anyone they want because they don't believe there will be consequences.

Whats the point of even having forums, then?

Everything can be covered by a FAQ; the stale environment you desire consists of all of three to four tired topics, being regurgitated endlessly until the forum dies from lack of participation.

Junkο5 votes

I told somebody that the reason people dislike girl gamers is because female streamers usually show their cleavage and are bad at the game. Post deleted.

All out swear war in one of the threads? Perfectly untouched.

GranspearZX2 votes

The worst part is that it's a pretty valid criticism. Streamers cultivating their brand and image and how they go about it, et cetera. The post was probably deleted because someone reported it as offensive.

Dominick Destine4 votes

I have been a forum moderator across many projects over several years, ranging from game publisher forums, to self help forums for vulnerable teenagers and young adults suffering mental health issues, and I have never seen such insane levels of moderation on a forum.

Yeah bullshit, I've been to those forums and the moderation there is off-the-charts. It puts this moderation to shame by an extreme margin.

Thulack4 votes

Love the mods here. So nice not to see Garbage posts every other thread. Hope they keep it up.

nerak232 votes

It isn't that bad, just don't insult people and don't post pron and you are golden.

^^

303Devilfish2 votes

i think Tamat dropped the ball on his statement there. I assume you only receive such severe punishment if you post something really bad, or continue to blatantly ignore the rules. if you get stuff removed for being rude or whatever else they do it for, i doubt anything is going to come of it.

that said, i'm actually somewhat disappointed with Riot's repsonses in regards to our feedback. i'm sure they're reading it, but it helps if they acknowledge that they're reading it.

i've posted a few things about it that i actually took time to think about and evaluate, and i feel as though every single one has been glossed over. i had a thread deleted in this section because they thought making a "feedback megathread" on the feedback board was a good idea.

if they would reply to some of these concerns, maybe threads like this one wouldn't have to be made in the first place.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

I'm pretty sure that they'll tone down moderation over time. Right now they're kind of in "crisis mode" to make sure that the pr0n posting, etc, doesn't start up again.

SmokingPuffin2 votes

I'm pretty sure that they'll tone down moderation over time. Right now they're kind of in "crisis mode" to make sure that the pr0n posting, etc, doesn't start up again.

It's been thoroughly stupid over in GD. Evangele, the politest person ever, had a very constructive thread on how GDers should transition to boards closed without comment. IonCannonKarthus is probably the most community-focused guy in GD, he had multiple run-ins with mods over stuff that I can't see how it's against any forum rules.

This morning, in a thread about the new PBE changes, Hackulator posted:

Smiting players, probably got suggested by Lyte lol

This was deleted with no explanation. I don't even. Amusingly enough, he got quoted by another poster who thought his joke was funny, and that didn't get moderated, so you can still see the comment here.

If the goal is to push the constructive and fun posters out of GD, they're succeeding.

tl;dr Much frustration with GD mods this week. They've gone way beyond keeping things SFW and non-toxic.

Haeval1 votes

I was the one who actually quoted Hackulator. I thought it was funny.

However, I wouldn't get upset if the quote was taken off either.

Here's why:

Lyte gets a lot of crap from players who are just pissed off that they can't use their main account anymore. They were terrible in-game, multiple games, and started being a detriment to the playing community. So they get on the forums and Lyte gets SO MUCH flack from them. Also, he has friends at Riot. Actual friends. Real life friends.

I wouldn't blame any of them for taking off anti-Lyte posts, funny or not.

I can't comment about Evangele's post; didn't read it. IonCannonKarthus as well...

SmokingPuffin2 votes

I wouldn't blame any of them for taking off anti-Lyte posts, funny or not.

If we're going to characterize that post as "anti-Lyte" I think we're going to have a hard time saying anything about a red ever.

I can't comment about Evangele's post; didn't read it. IonCannonKarthus as well...

I'd link you, but...yeah. This is one of those problems with opaque moderation.

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