Hey all, we just rolled out the adjustments to champ select timers stated in the patch notes.
PICK INTENT 35 seconds ⇒ 20 seconds BANS 40 seconds ⇒ 30 seconds (x6) PICKS 40 seconds ⇒ 30 seconds (x10) RESOLUTION 40 seconds ⇒ 30 seconds MAX DURATION 715 seconds ⇒ 530 seconds
Let us know what you think.
John Viande44 votesA very important thing to set up is to make the game window pop up when it is your turn to ban/pick a champ. It is not clear enough right now, there is only a small ticking sound in the last 10 sec, so there are a lot of unintentional dodges.
Although I think these changes are a good thing, it may increase the number of unintentional dodges.
Edit: Nvm, I didn't see it has been implemented recently.
DrCyanide2 votesA very important thing to set up is to make the game window pop up when it is your turn to ban/pick a champ.
It does... I've tested twice now.
Eream Hellfire1 votesAs many times as I've been off-screan, it has always popped up when it has been my turn. The few times it hasnt is when i happened to click right as soon as it turned over to my turn so the window popped up for a millisecond before being shifted back again since its no longer the focus.
High54 votesI feel like they stealth changed this in the past day or so. It didn't ding, but I thought I saw the window pop last night.
If not, I totally agree.
I'll also admit that the dynamic queue is starting grow on me. It's not better, but now it seems to get me in game about as fast as the old queue and draft.
Wickedfates17 voteseh.... max still just shy of under 10 mins..... per dodge
i miss teambuilder
Nogrim1 votesat the rate they are going champ select will be longer than the round
ThatH1N11 votesthere have been time that i forgot SR was a map within the game. There have been times where I thought this game was just lobbies for champ selection, then, I get into the a game on a map with strats and shit, and, I am just confused at that point...
Garrotte7 votesPick intent feels about 5 seconds too fast, due to the fact that you can load into champ select with the timer ticking, so it felt closer to 10 seconds than 15.
Rezandra5 votesI think thank god.
WukongMain5 votesDo we still have to lock in our pick intent,bans and picks?
My League client has always been sort of laggy when in champion selection so it's not always easy to have time to choose the champion and then click lock in. Having less time to choose and lock these in kinda suck :S.
Also why was the mandatory lock in implemented? It seems pointless to me to be forced to hit lock in. If this question was answered else where, can you please link me to the discussion? :).
Other than my laggy computer, if one were to have a speedy client..i think this update is rather lovely. Less time in champion selection means more time on the rift! Good Job riot!
[slayer-jinx-catface] Thanks in advance for taking the time to read all this <3.
Hyrum Graff8 votesAlso why was the mandatory lock in implemented? It seems pointless to me to be forced to hit lock in. If this question was answered else where, can you please link me to the discussion? :).
When you don't have to lock, a lot of people don't lock, even though they've decided. If they're gonna have to lock anyway, people tend to lock earlier => shorter draft phase.
OneSmoothDude1 votesYep, exactly. Now way fewer people will take literally as long as possible just because they can.
ZGM Dazzling5 votesPlease keep the resolution at 40 seconds. Even before these changes I tend to not be able to finish making a mastery page.
Cremepie4 votesPick intent is in a good spot, could even lower it to 15 seconds if you wanted. Bans are good as well, don't lower it below 20 seconds if your looking for more seconds to shave. Picks are the same. Resolution should really only be 20-15 seconds, drags on a little.
Good spot all around [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Kitsuki052 votespersonally I prefer longer pick intent and shorter ban time. I feel like if people are going to discuss team tactics, it'll happen at pick intent
Hyrum Graff2 votespersonally I prefer longer pick intent and shorter ban time. I feel like if people are going to discuss team tactics, it'll happen at pick intent
Yeah but sometimes I change which champ I was gonna play when I see the enemy laner.
Kitsuki052 voteshow does that affect the ban phase?
Hyrum Graff5 voteshow does that affect the ban phase?
Well, that part doesn't very much. Hopefully you don't ban out your ally's champion, though. I'd be down with a 10 second intent phase if I could change intent during ban.
OneSmoothDude1 votesBeing able to change pick intent before your turn would be amazing. Hopefully that's one of the changes they're working on, along with being able to see the countdown timer when changing masteries and making sure the client always pops up.
Raven Redeemed3 votesCould you make the aram champ select phase shorter? Right now it's pretty long for a game type that requires little pre-game strategizing.
Just a thought. Thanks.
Awkward Couch2 votesI personally think that the ARAM champ select is about perfect. This gives my team time to swap between characters, and for people like me who only use one mastery page and set it before every match.
High53 votesThis makes really happy. I know it wasn't longer, but the new selection felt brutally slow.
Anything that gets me to playing faster is a good change.
dunkeroni3 votesCan the champion panel pop up faster now that the timers are shorter? The "pick intent" timer is 20 seconds, but I can't see any champion faces until it's 14sec left.
Kinjishi1 votesExactly this. It takes so long to load that almost half of your time is gone by the time it shows up.
Fawksea2 votesgood job, can you fix the bugs like getting kicked when you have 20 seconds left on your ban/pick?
Maninthemoon2 votesTy Riot
HigeR2 votesIs there an actual point to pick intent though?
what you deserve4 votesIf your teammates aren't assholes, it keeps them from banning your champion.
Xonra1 votesIf your teammates aren't assholes, it keeps them from banning your champion.
This is why I don't lock in champs with pick intent unless I'm support, because in about 1 in 5 games, there is always "that guy" who thinks he is being funny banning my champ when I play top (usually when I'm first pick).
Hyrum Graff4 votesIs there an actual point to pick intent though?
It lets you coordinate your picks without having to call them in (sometimes busy) chat. So if you pick yasuo, I can swap from karma top to malphite.
HigeR1 voteswell this all sounds nice but most of the time pick intent changes based on counterpicking (as it should...) so in the end it's mostly a waste of time :S of course there has been times where I get to swap or whatnot but nowadays people don't even pick anything, I personally go ahead and pick nunu as adc for the lulz but never go through with it (admittedly, this worked better when the enemy could see your pick intent).
NotSpecialDude4 votesI rather like it. I like to play kha jg but if our team is too squishy or lacks any real engage I need to change to a jg that can. The pick intent helps massively especially if I'm first pick. It frustrates me when 2 or more people do troll intents since I can't tell what holes I need to fill for the team.
arcinex2 votesFix rune pages bug. Let us view champion pool.
Let us know when you fix.
FlamingAngel1232 votesi dodged 2 games today due to the fact i was doing two things at once. One of the times i spilled water on my self and i came screaming back trying to pick a champ at the last 5 seconds with it booting me out D;
OneSmoothDude2 votesFantastic. Thank you. This new champ select is amazing. <3
I still see three issues with it, however.
First, is that we can't see the countdown timer while changing our masteries. I think I remember a Rioter saying this is being looked at, but I'm not 100% certain. Regardless, this is an even bigger issue now that the Resolution time has been shortened.
Second, I wish the text at the top would switch sizes and placement when it is your turn to pick. When every other person picks, it says "[Summoner] is picking" in large print with their position in smaller print below. But when it's your turn, the position in big print, with "Pick your champion" in small print. Seems backwards, no?
The old champ select's "It is YOUR turn to PICK." made this much more clear, especially with the YOUR and PICK in the bright orange color.
The third issue is much smaller in comparison. I wish you would put a period at the end of "Pick your champion". That's all. Old champ select had proper punctuation, but this one doesn't.
Awkward Couch2 votesPraise the Riot Gods! The champ select felt like it was taking forever! This new timing system feels much better and I feel that things move along at a much quicker pace and I for one am happy about it.
darknuke2 votesAdd more clear SFX to the "it's your turn now" part. I can't tell you the number of times I've had LoL minimized and not realized it was my turn until the 10 second counter started and I was like "OH SHIT" and panic picked something.
LeBlanc Jameś2 votesTHANK YOU! Holy crap timers were long
Kinjishi2 votesPICK INTENT 35 seconds ⇒ 20 seconds You only get 12-14 seconds as it takes too long for the screen to load.
PICKS 40 seconds ⇒ 30 seconds (x10) RESOLUTION 40 seconds ⇒ 30 seconds
These need to be longer. Trying to discuss with teammates what lane we need to swap to (if at all) and counter picks we want doesn't have enough time.
Didn't have queue dodges before, but now have 4 in the last 2 days. Your adjustment sucks as people aren't able to communicate fast enough.
Kinjishi1 votesLiked better the previous way. Now it seems too short.
Julanus1 votesEverything seems to flow fairly smoothly and consistently, except for Pick Intent. It feels a bit too short now, almost like it's being rushed through just to get to the bans.
In my eyes, the Pick Intent phase is the time to get to know your teammates before getting into the actual Champion Select. Who's playing which champion? How is our team setup? Is anyone swapping between multiple pick intents?
I would say raising Pick Intent up to 30 seconds would be sufficient time for everyone to get comfortable with their teammates, figure out who they're using, and begin focusing on the game.
An alternate suggestion might be to allow Pick Intent during the entire Champion Select up until a player locks-in their choice. It would allow players the ability to show more options as the selection proceeds, though I do see a potential where people could abuse it by just swapping randomly through their champion list. Though the same could be said about the current Pick Intent as people select a champion only to lock-in with a completely different choice instead.
Time Magik1 votesI personally am still wondering why I need to wait 10 minutes (sometimes longer) for a game pre-30. But other than that I am glad the picks and bans will be faster.
Sluiceway1 votesBut is there an ETA for when new champ select will roll out in all queues?
kurthl33t1 votesPick intent felt a little short. If I was indecisive about what would work best with my teammate's picks, I felt like I had to rush and just grab whatever I saw first instead of making a thoughtful decision.
Oh, who am I kidding? We all know I'm gonna go Leona.
KitsuneTrickster1 votesPlease switch them back, I find it very rushed considering if you don't lock in, you get kicked and I find it harder to think properly with the rush.
Gregor Gysi1 votesAwesome change! Please make it so that you don't have to ban anything - it's totally unnecessary to dodge a lobby just because someone didn't ban.
MasterVidallis1 votesI'm more concerned with how long it's taking to get a match this season... was queing with my friend prime time last night for normal draft. We waited 12 min. I queued as top>jun and him as supp>adc, that's a lot of coverage. And we're plat so it's not like we're super high or anything. Last year we pretty much never waited longer than 2 min for draft normals at 8pm... that extra 10 min makes a big difference and is in my opinion not worth.
Danyoja1 votesCould we keep actually increase the resolution timer? Sometimes I want to think about which masteries/rune page I want to use for the current match up or make a new mastery page and the small buffer time at the end is the best place to do that.
an extra 10-20 second would be good
Great White Shaq1 votesI think moving the countdown from 10 to 15 would be helpful
Draven Wun Trick1 votesLOVE it. reduce it even more. get these games started faster plz
