Having RP on a perma-banned account.

ZGM Dazzling··25 votes·12,941 views

Incase you didnt know, when you have a permabanned account, you get a popup that tells you that your banned, and then you get logged out instantly. Honestly it should just let you use the client just not allow you to play any games. Also you should be able to use your RP that you bought to gift your friends or something.

http://i.imgur.com/7Wan6Wd.png?1

This just doesnt seem right.

49 Comments

Game girl 118 votes

Honestly it would suck if you just bought rp but didnt get to use it. At least let him gift someone lol. Afterall he DID pay for it.

disregardable4 votes

It's a problem with the way the store works. I noticed it when I was 2 week banned. In order to gift anyone anything, you need to be connected to pvp.net, ie you need to be able to use your friends list. Riot doesn't want banned players to be able to chat with friends on their accounts, so you can't send any gifts or even VIEW your friendslist to add to your new account.

ThePainus6 votes

That's sort of terrible. You should be able to give your league friends some other methods to talk to you. Just because you were an asshat in game doesn't mean you haven't formed deep friendships with the various people on your friends list.

Sythriel Draken9 votes

I agree riot should let you do something with your RP, after all, you did spend money on a product and now are being illegally denied access to money you've spent because somehow you broke riots failure of a justice system.

For one thing, riot should ban more people than they do based on metrics that I have observed through personal experience and observations. No one knows that saying "report elise AFK, or report Thresh spamming, or he called me a n**g Je*" all will get you banned under their failed system.

Hell, the system doesn't kick back false reports like it should. I just got out of a game where I didn't type anything in the chat throughout the pre-post except Jungle and I got a pop up saying offensive language. As a player who's trying to change his toxic ways this is disheartening to see that now my account is being flagged to be looked at even tho it's a false report.

So, in short they should let you spend RP you just purchased even if your accounts banned, not on yourself, but on your friends because their system currently is NOT working as intended.

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sythriel Draken,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z9I57POj,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-01-03T08:42:46.473+0000)

I just got out of a game where I didn't type anything in the chat throughout the pre-post except Jungle and I got a pop up saying offensive language.

The system doesn't instantly check to see if what you got reported for was false or not. Your account may be reported, but it doesn't STAY on your account once the system double checks it. Yea, there should be some sort of better assurance there, but if you weren't toxic, it doesn't stay on you.

People just wanted to know when they've been reported. So Riot gave it to them.

Zen Fury4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sythriel Draken,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z9I57POj,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-01-03T08:42:46.473+0000)

I agree riot should let you do something with your RP, after all, you did spend money on a product and now are being illegally denied access to >money you've spent because somehow you broke riots failure of a justice system.

There are a set of terms and conditions you agree to when you sign up for this game. In these terms and conditions, it specifically states the rules and the penalties that happen if you break the rules.

And no, there is nothing illegal about it. Very similar clauses exist in many places IRL as well as online. You can spend $5000 dollars on 50 yard line tickets to the Super Bowl. But if you do something stupid in the first 10 minutes of the game and get thrown out, you don't get your $5000 back.

For one thing, riot should ban more people than they do based on metrics that I have observed through personal experience and observations. No >one knows that saying "report elise AFK, or report Thresh spamming, or he called me a n**g Je*" all will get you banned under their failed system.

The system appears to be working fine. Permabans are handed out after a PERSON reviews your account. If you show a long history of bad behavior and previous bans had no effect on your behavior, then you get permabanned.

Hell, the system doesn't kick back false reports like it should. I just got out of a game where I didn't type anything in the chat throughout the pre->post except Jungle and I got a pop up saying offensive language. As a player who's trying to change his toxic ways this is disheartening to see that >now my account is being flagged to be looked at even tho it's a false report.

A false report won't get you banned. Bans occur if you're reported frequently, not just from one game. Again, you have to have a history of being reported. If you reach a certain threshold of reports, you're account gets reviewed. If whoever reviews it sees you're toxic, then you get a ban. Depending on the severity and what other bans you have received in the past, you may get a simple slap on the wrist or you may lose your account.

So, in short they should let you spend RP you just purchased even if your accounts banned, not on yourself, but on your friends because their >system currently is NOT working as intended.

Their system is working just fine. And no, they shouldn't let you spend the RP. If you get thrown in jail, they don't let you out to go buy things at Walmart for your friends.

A permanent ban means you lose all access to the game, period. There are no special clauses or exceptions. It's like getting banned from a bar or store. They're not going to let you back in just because you want to buy drinks/gifts/etc. for friends.

Or put simply, a permaban is the equivalent of Riot telling you that they don't want you here. At all.

ZGM Dazzling3 votes

Actually if you get thrown in jail for life you can give all your possesions to whomever you like.

fatherdarius2 votes

....after you pay fines and make restitution to your victims, of course.

Your leftover RP should be distributed to the people who reported you, as compensation for their games which you ruined with your toxicity.

If there's any left, THEN you should be able to use that remainder to gift your friends.

ZGM Dazzling5 votes

Fine, then they take it, i paid for it so it mine as well get used. -_-

fatherdarius1 votes

I actually think it makes sense. shrug

XxfuduntuxX1 votes

Thats false lol

Sarutobi6 votes

How so? You broke the rules thus leaving you without an account. If you can still use the account what is even the point of banning it. This is suppose to be a punishment. Even if you couldnt play you could still contact people and harass them that way.

ZGM Dazzling7 votes

not sure id you understand my point....

Im saying you should be able to gift ppl and look at your old account...

Who says permabanned players just harass people on their friends list... you could just remove them.

Cherufe3 votes

But the punishment SHOULD be that you cant use your account at all

Sarutobi3 votes

But you still have access to that account, and you do realize we have chat rooms, and can add people. whats stopping you from looking up past games seeing people who play badly and continue to harass them? What ever you did to break the rules resulted in you losing your account, that means you no longer have access to it. Again this is a punishment.

r3lax8 votes

idk what world you live in that you expect people to just go around with the goal of harassing people...

You understand that the stressful environment in a ranked game is A LOT different than when your just in the client. Just because people get toxic or rage under stress or in competitive situations, doesn't mean their sadistic evil people whos only goal is to hurt people.

Sarutobi2 votes

And yet it still happens. People do have a tendency to keep harassing others even after the game. You know it will happen just as badly if people were able to keep logging into their account especially if they were ban for being toxic. Like i keep saying this is suppose to be a punishment. if you want to gift friends why didnt you do it the moment you put RP into your account? it just seems like you want access to your account despite the fact you broke the rules!

ZGM Dazzling3 votes

People do have a tendency to keep harassing others even after the game.

Thats very different as well...

People dont simply harass other players MONTHS after a game where they were upset with them.

I really think you have a twisted sense of reality.

Sarutobi2 votes

You realize there are over millions of accounts and players. Yes there are people like that. Maybe you haven't encountered them but they are there. This would just fuel more people into doing that since they would have little to no punishment since they are already "permaban" but would still have access to their account.

I rather they keep it how it is now. You aren't suppose to have your account when you are punished because you broke the rules and deal with the consequences!

Arakadia2 votes

Well put, your getting alot of hate thats unesecary.

shyv2 votes

you do realize this is a punishment, right?

Chief JulianZ6 votes

Honestly just let the kid gift people

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

They could just transfer that RP over to another smurf they're going to be toxic on...

If you buy a season pass to Disneyland and get banned for life after just 2 rides, you don't get to give your pass to a friend or put on a disguise to use the pass. You are basically renting content (rides) with RP (tickets), and the RP is the thing you actually bought which was delivered in full and attached to your account (pass).

ZGM Dazzling6 votes

I guess, i owe some friends a skin tho, and this just feels shitty mate. Like, its one thing if I was asking to be able to play still just permanantly muted, and its another thing if im saying just let me move around the client

To compare to you analogy,

Lets say I wanted to stand around the Disney entrance and talk to people and maybe give away my tickets to other people for free... is that so bad?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I get where you're coming from, but my belief is that it's just too much of a way out of the punishment for extremely toxic players. The benefit is just decimated by the scope of the risk.

EvilDustMan3 votes

[{quoted}](name=ZGM Dazzling,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z9I57POj,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-01-03T06:21:45.577+0000)

I guess, i owe some friends a skin tho, and this just feels shitty mate. Like, its one thing if I was asking to be able to play still just permanantly muted, and its another thing if im saying just let me move around the client

To compare to you analogy,

Lets say I wanted to stand around the Disney entrance and talk to people and maybe give away my tickets to other people for free... is that so bad?

Two things.

If you owe your friend something, it's on you. You are the one who got permabanned. You had several tries to fix your behavior, but you didn't. So now you failed your friends.

Second, okay, this analogy can work, but you aren't taking it far enough. You need to take it a step further. You were inside Disneyland, but you were escorted off the grounds by screaming 'FUCK' at the top of your lungs in the middle of Main Street. You asked people getting off rides if they were morons for getting on that ride. Disney would want you as far off the property as they could manage, because there's no reason for them to believe you aren't going to harass people.

ZGM Dazzling5 votes

Do people really think permabanned players just live to harrass people? lmfao

They can block me from msging for all I care just let me use the rp i paid for.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Permabanned players get permabanned for good reason. They stopped doing the infinitely stacking chat restrictions because it didn't work.

ZGM Dazzling5 votes

tell me if this is a good reason:

I got permabanned for (jokingly) recruiting people to the KKk. lel

Its not like im some phsycho thats bent on hurting people, also the way you act in a ranked game is far different from how you act irl.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Hate speech is taken very seriously here. Would I ban you literally just for doing that once? No, but I have doubts that's all that happened, and the rules are pretty clear on that behavior. You can't click the "I Agree" button to the Terms of Use then be justified in getting upset when you're penalized over breaking them.

lolptwo2 votes

Would you be ok if people were 'jokingly' recruiting people to ISIS? It's not a joke.

EvilDustMan2 votes

[{quoted}](name=ZGM Dazzling,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z9I57POj,comment-id=0007000000010000,timestamp=2016-01-03T17:04:14.646+0000)

Do people really think permabanned players just live to harrass people? lmfao

They can block me from msging for all I care just let me use the rp i paid for.

You WERE asked to stop 3 times.

Arakadia2 votes

I feelya :( Wish I could help.

Arakadia3 votes

Rito wants those people to buy their own RP is the thing. Then they get more money. Disney Land wants others to buy new tickets not yours.

LOL Spammer2 votes

I mean you could get banned for other reason than being toxic.

43161549_DEL3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z9I57POj,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-01-03T06:19:26.283+0000)

They could just transfer that RP over to another smurf they're going to be toxic on...

If you buy a season pass to Disneyland and get banned for life after just 2 rides, you don't get to give your pass to a friend or put on a disguise to use the pass. You are basically renting content (rides) with RP (tickets), and the RP is the thing you actually bought which was delivered in full and attached to your account (pass).

actually you could give away the pass (sell). just saying ;3 btw loved your nami stickers

Sqùìrrèl5 votes

I am very sorry that happened to you. They should provide a refund or option to transfer it to a friend if they will not allow you to gift anybody.

Also, I've seen way worse toxicity than that. So, now I know that "wtf" is a toxic phrase. So is, "peace" , "yeh" , and so many other things that they pasted in that chat log. The only thing I see wrong in that is the homophobic slur. The rest of it is just stuff, and I don't see why it was considered toxic.

tommyagun3 votes

I concur

Disneylord2 votes

you just show us how dumb you were for giving money in a free to play minigame

biobirbbyy2 votes

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ZGM Jewpacabra2 votes

IKR you were gonna gift me! lel

themachamp2 votes

Just more proof that riot wants the $$$$$ they will let you buy rp and skins while banned, but not gift anything to anyone.

shyv2 votes

this is hilarious, you spent so much money on rp you're never gonna get to use .. man if only this could have been avoided somehow.. if only.. riot gave you a million warnings about improving your behaviour ..

r3lax1 votes

Wow that sucks man. Maybe dont be so toxic lol but still...

CrazyBear19871 votes

when you get banned, you forfeit all that you own in that account, skins, RP, champions, runes, rewards etc.

it's unfortunate that such a huge amount doesn't get spent, but when you bought those RP, Riot already received the money, you were just unable to spend before your account got banned. so technically they don't care what happens afterwards.

Dr Pondu1 votes

:eague help me plzz there was 25$ to waste. KMS

GamerZjac31 votes

idot gamerzjac3 xd

ModPeriscope1 votes

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