Leaverbuster needs to be replaced by a better system.

Teemo Zalium·Nov 23, 2016·2 votes·948 views

I am sick of waiting 20 min queue for minor offenses from this nitpicky system. I know I will get downvotes but players like me are tired of this bugged and unfair system. I dced for 7 min last game my first time in a couple of weeks only to get a 20 min leaver queue. I know you will say i'd have to afk many times to get 20 min queue and I have... A LONG TIME AGO. Leaverbuster is horribly unfair and excessive and seems that it needs to be replaces are be less harsh. Leavers and afks should be punished but a simple 7 min dc should not result in 20 min queues. I have seriously tried to not afk and to play every game and it still punishes me for remote offenses proving how outdated and broken this system is. Once again I recommend leaverbuster being tweaked or replaced with a better system because this gos too far.

24 Comments

Deep Terror NamiNov 23, 20163 votes

Leaving games has a very negative impact on your teammates, even if it's just for a few minutes. If you are having regular issues with your connection or client you need to get them fixed before you queue up for more games. If you need help doing that, head to the Help & Support board and ask.

DragfinNov 23, 20161 votes

The system is to stop leaving games and you don't have to deal with 20 minute ques.

It's a slap on the wrist.

You should be banned for habitual leaving.

It's that simple.

JerkulezeNov 23, 20161 votes

what about my situation. leaverbuster just gave me a 30 for dodging a game with a mid lane troll. bans weren't even all the way through yet and he had already ruined the match for 2 of his team mates. I leave and save my team and catch a 30 min queue. Before I get responses about how many time you have to dodge to get that...it shouldn't matter how many times I dodge when the reason is something of this nature. Do you auto give someone 30 years in prison for being near a mugging just because they have done that in the past? No, you investigate.

DragfinNov 28, 20161 votes

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what about my situation. leaverbuster just gave me a 30 for dodging a game with a mid lane troll. bans weren't even all the way through yet and he had already ruined the match for 2 of his team mates. I leave and save my team and catch a 30 min queue. Before I get responses about how many time you have to dodge to get that...it shouldn't matter how many times I dodge when the reason is something of this nature. Do you auto give someone 30 years in prison for being near a mugging just because they have done that in the past? No, you investigate.

You did not get it from 1 game. Stop leaving games and when you need to leave due to something like this then you won't get punished. It's that simple.

JerkulezeNov 30, 20161 votes

Dodging queues and leaving games are completely separate actions, with completely separate consequences. Please read carefully before you comment.

DragfinDec 1, 20161 votes

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Dodging queues and leaving games are completely separate actions, with completely separate consequences. Please read carefully before you comment.

I am not the one who needs to read carefully little boy. My comment applies to both actions. Stupid people keep making excuses when there are none.

JerkulezeDec 2, 20161 votes

Annnnnddd...you're toxic. bye now.

DragfinDec 2, 20161 votes

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Annnnnddd...you're toxic. bye now.

Toxic are habitual AFK's/DC's and dodgers. Bye.

BigBellBruteDec 2, 20161 votes

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what about my situation. leaverbuster just gave me a 30 for dodging a game with a mid lane troll. bans weren't even all the way through yet and he had already ruined the match for 2 of his team mates. I leave and save my team and catch a 30 min queue. Before I get responses about how many time you have to dodge to get that...it shouldn't matter how many times I dodge when the reason is something of this nature. Do you auto give someone 30 years in prison for being near a mugging just because they have done that in the past? No, you investigate.

Here's the rub though. How is riot to spot out the liars? Are they going to have to look at a support ticket or a chat log every time someone dodges? That's unworkable.

ÝisusNov 23, 20161 votes

Realistically - it's 2016. The fact that LoL doesn't have a truly dynamic queue is sad. When a person leaves a game, they should be replaced by someone else who has selected that role as their primary. They should come into the game with their teams average level and gold.

JamareeNov 23, 20163 votes

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Realistically - it's 2016. The fact that LoL doesn't have a truly dynamic queue is sad. When a person leaves a game, they should be replaced by someone else who has selected that role as their primary. They should come into the game with their teams average level and gold.

Who would actually want to join a game like that?

ÝisusNov 23, 20161 votes

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Who would actually want to join a game like that?

WoW had a system like this for their PVP. And it was so incredibly quick that their was no downtime. maybe 15 - 30 seconds max. I would have np joining a game like that.

JamareeNov 23, 20163 votes

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WoW had a system like this for their PVP. And it was so incredibly quick that their was no downtime. maybe 15 - 30 seconds max. I would have np joining a game like that.

Because WoW PvP is far more loose then it it is here, where here, you have runes and masteries that are vastly different from every person.

99% of the time people who leave intentionally are going to leave and put you at a far lower level then your opponents. Why would you join a game knowing the chances of winning are so abysmally low compared to just starting a new game?

Teemo ZaliumNov 23, 20161 votes

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Because WoW PvP is far more loose then it it is here, where here, you have runes and masteries that are vastly different from every person.

99% of the time people who leave intentionally are going to leave and put you at a far lower level then your opponents. Why would you join a game knowing the chances of winning are so abysmally low compared to just starting a new game?

Why not just add a second remake opportunity later in the game if someone rage quits or afks. I mean it wouldn't have as negative impact then. You could just report the afk anyway.

JamareeNov 23, 20161 votes

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Why not just add a second remake opportunity later in the game if someone rage quits or afks. I mean it wouldn't have as negative impact then. You could just report the afk anyway.

Because of you were on the winning side, and the opponent left out of your control, why do you deserve to be punished?

Teemo ZaliumNov 23, 20161 votes

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Because of you were on the winning side, and the opponent left out of your control, why do you deserve to be punished?

I didn't say anyone should be punished other than the afk. Remakes are not wins or losses. I understand what you mean but that's why the afk should be punished. The purpose of this thread however was criticize leaver buster for punishing players for isolated and inconsistent offenses.

JamareeNov 23, 20161 votes

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I didn't say anyone should be punished other than the afk. Remakes are not wins or losses. I understand what you mean but that's why the afk should be punished. The purpose of this thread however was criticize leaver buster for punishing players for isolated and inconsistent offenses.

When you take the win from the team that was going to win, it is punishing them.

Teemo ZaliumNov 23, 20161 votes

People seem to be misinterpreting this post. Of course leavers should be punished but I am not a habitual leaver and forever reason I get punished for isolated and minor offenses. I try to rejoin any game I do dc whenever it does happen. I'm sure I'm not the only one with this issue.

HexaDecimelNov 23, 20161 votes

Getting a 20min wait time means you are a habitual leaver. It literally means you have left too many games in too short a time period.

Teemo ZaliumNov 23, 20161 votes

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Getting a 20min wait time means you are a habitual leaver. It literally means you have left too many games in too short a time period.

I did afk a lot a long time ago. I have made an effort to stop and rarely intentionally or even unintentionally leave or afk from a game. I am punished with 20 min queues for a 7 min dc within weeks.

HexaDecimelNov 23, 20162 votes

What is your definition of "a long time ago", because I am willing to bet that yours and Riot's are different.

Here is an example that may help. Every year I have an allotted amount of sick time that I can have off. If I use up half of the days I am allowed then my pay on those sick days gets reduced by a percentage. If I use up all of the time I am allowed then I will no longer receive pay on days I need off if I am sick.

The system does not care what my circumstance is, it starts out lenient and gets more strict as time goes on. It is designed not just for my benefit but for others benefit as well. My actions can and do effect others. That that is the whole point of the leaverbuster system.

Teemo ZaliumNov 23, 20161 votes

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What is your definition of "a long time ago", because I am willing to bet that yours and Riot's are different.

Here is an example that may help. Every year I have an allotted amount of sick time that I can have off. If I use up half of the days I am allowed then my pay on those sick days gets reduced by a percentage. If I use up all of the time I am allowed then I will no longer receive pay on days I need off if I am sick.

The system does not care what my circumstance is, it starts out lenient and gets more strict as time goes on. It is designed not just for my benefit but for others benefit as well. My actions can and do effect others. That that is the whole point of the leaverbuster system.

I will admit that is very true and is a good example I am still frustrated that trends of less leaving are not rewarded by lighter punishments. I would be less bothered if say a week of not afking resulted in shorter queues.

ModPrandineNov 23, 2016

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I will admit that is very true and is a good example I am still frustrated that trends of less leaving are not rewarded by lighter punishments. I would be less bothered if say a week of not afking resulted in shorter queues.

You can get shorter queues by not leaving or afking in games and playing them through fully to the end-that's it. The system is designed so that players have to actually work off of the punishment themselves rather than just wait for about a week or two for it to go away.

DrCyanideNov 23, 20162 votes

"Less leaving" over time is less relevant than over how many games?

It doesn't matter if I leave 1 game a week if I'm only playing 1 game a week, that's 100% of my games that I'm leaving early. If I leave 1/30 games (3%) that's something different.