can riot please do something about hackers in low elo?

Bradley Dragon·Nov 30, 2016·2 votes·812 views

like seriously i swear it is at least every other game i get a very obvious hacker. from a caitlin healing for 80 a hit while having 0% lifesteal and in the middle of about 8 minions and im autoing her as tf. claiming it was warlords, no it is a hack and i hope she got banned. warlords increases your lifesteal. it doesnet actually give any. esp not enough to heal for 80. thne i was just in a game with a pantheon that was doing over 1k dmg with just pasic attacks with no attack speed or crit items. only armor pen. i really wish riot would fix the hacking its been getting WORSE every season since s2. bronze is so inescapable that people hack just to get out. and i can never rise because of the hackers vs me in almost every game.

15 Comments

BunnymapNov 30, 201610 votes

And here we see the wild bronze in it's natural habitat. Blissfully ignorant of their surroundings, the bronzes like to convince themselves that they're not bad by blaming what is known as "hacks". They also don't know how warlords works apparently.

Judging by your post history, nothing is going to convince you, so lets just not even bother

EvilDustManNov 30, 20163 votes

Is that even a hack you can do?

SavageConcordiaNov 30, 20165 votes

It's the elusive "Warlords Bloodlust" hack. It gives 20% lifesteal without building any lifesteal! All you have to do is go to your masteries, make sure no points are assigned on a page and click 6 times in the right spots! (Don't tell Bronze players or they may use it to get to Plat like the clearly deserve)

IPinPCNov 30, 20162 votes

Wait, you play since S2 and still in bronze ? You must be banned for hacking bronze all those years :D

Maximum MordeNov 30, 20161 votes

Lol

Bradley DragonNov 30, 20161 votes

i know warlords doesnet make you heal for 80 when your only item is ie and it is 25% EFFECTIVE FOR RANGED. SOOO YEA. I CALL BS

SavageConcordiaNov 30, 20162 votes

Found what I think to be the game you are talking about, that Cait had: Feast (20 health for minion kill)+ Vampirism (2% lifesteal)+ Warlords (5% lifesteal v minions) that means the Cait would need like a 500 damage crit last hit to make up the ground from feast. That is perfectly reasonable with IE. Also Panth doesn't need crit. He has 100% crit chance versus low HP targets and he stacks armor pen he is basically doing crit true damage when you have 0 armor.

RandomoniumNov 30, 20163 votes

The 25% effectiveness for ranged only applies when she's auto attacking minions. If she auto attacks a champion she gets the full effects of the life steal from warlord's bloodlust.

RandomoniumNov 30, 20161 votes

Do you mind linking me to the match history for this game? I can't find any recent games where you played against a Caitlin. Chances are I can download the replay and see if there's anything odd.

I don't think you understand how hard it is to hack the game like you are describing. Since all the game information is stored server side that would mean you'd have to hack Riot's servers. If you had the skill to hack Riot's servers why would you use that access to win bronze games when you could steal credit card numbers or unlock any content in the game that you wanted?

Hacking is extremely, extremely uncommon. It's much, much easier to script since that can be done client side but scripting can't do thinks like manipulate how much you can life steal, it can only give you improved kiting, improved cs, and the ability to dodge/land nearly all skill shots.

The point I'm trying to make is that it is extremely unlikely the person is hacking and much more likely you missed something.

For example, you said the Caitlin had no life steal. I find that very hard to believe because typically the first item bought by all ADCs is doran's blade which gives 3% life steal. It is also very common for players to get the vampirism mastery in the fervor tree which gives 2% life steal. Furthermore, some people even run life steal quints in their runes.

Also, your game knowledge on warlord's bloodless is flawed. It doesn't increase the life steal you already have. It gives between 0.06% and 20% BONUS life steal based on how much health you are missing. For example, if you had 5% life steal from items/masteries and you were near death warlord's bloodless would give you an additional 20% life steal for a total of 25%.

I hope that helps.

Bradley DragonNov 30, 20161 votes

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Do you mind linking me to the match history for this game? I can't find any recent games where you played against a Caitlin. Chances are I can download the replay and see if there's anything odd.

I don't think you understand how hard it is to hack the game like you are describing. Since all the game information is stored server side that would mean you'd have to hack Riot's servers. If you had the skill to hack Riot's servers why would you use that access to win bronze games when you could steal credit card numbers or unlock any content in the game that you wanted?

Hacking is extremely, extremely uncommon. It's much, much easier to script since that can be done client side but scripting can't do thinks like manipulate how much you can life steal, it can only give you improved kiting, improved cs, and the ability to dodge/land nearly all skill shots.

The point I'm trying to make is that it is extremely unlikely the person is hacking and much more likely you missed something.

For example, you said the Caitlin had no life steal. I find that very hard to believe because typically the first item bought by all ADCs is doran's blade which gives 3% life steal. It is also very common for players to get the vampirism mastery in the fervor tree which gives 2% life steal. Furthermore, some people even run life steal quints in their runes.

Also, your game knowledge on warlord's bloodless is flawed. It doesn't increase the life steal you already have. It gives between 0.06% and 20% BONUS life steal based on how much health you are missing. For example, if you had 5% life steal from items/masteries and you were near death warlord's bloodless would give you an additional 20% life steal for a total of 25%.

I hope that helps. i was twisted fate and the evemy adc was a caitlin. thing is she didnt have any lifesteal besides a dorans and even if she had the 25% lifesteal it would not make her heal for 80 each attack wwhile in a minion wave. she had 100 hp and 3 basic attacks didnt kill her. for her to possibly heal for 80 she would of had to have a MINIMUM of 60% lifesteal. and that is impossible withotu lifesteal items to obtain.

RandomoniumNov 30, 20161 votes

Like I said, link me the match. I'll take a look at it.

It's very easy for an ADC, especially caitlin, to like steal 80 HP off an auto attack with only 20-25% lifesteal. If she crits, gets a heads hot, and/or crits on a headshot then it would require her to have very little AD in order to get 80 HP off an auto attack.

Assuming she had 25% life steal she would need to do 320 damage with her auto attack to heal 80 HP from life steal. With a crit that means she'd only need 160 AD and for a headshot or a headshot crit she'd need even less AD.

It's pointless to continue this discussion though if you don't link me the match history and let me know approximately what minute mark in the game this occured.