Last game, our Draven was horrible, like 3 deaths in 4 min. Granted, he couldn't do much after that. Yasuo and Renekton were saying "report draven for trolling" even though he wasn't. Draven tried to stay positive. "it's k we got this." Do you know what Yasuo said to that? "Do you even play seriously?" I don't get it. We can't even be positive anymore because it comes off as trolling. This player base needs to learn something. [zombie-brand-mindblown]
Samus7223 votesIt's difficult to expect a jerk to suddenly not be.
White Guilt Paul12 votesStay Positive!
Can U AD See Me4 votesCharlie Sheen approves
I Main Swain3 votescharlie 
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Ancestor0072 votesStay Na+(Chemistry joke)
ThePartyLeader10 votesPositivity Positively attracts Negativity.
Akeydel2 votesI hope its okay that i read that in 
's "gems" voice...
AliBlaBla7 votesI heard Charlie Sheen is good at being positive ...
Palmeiras SerieB1 voteshuehuehuehuehue
Can U AD See Me1 votesHuehuehuehuehue
muscleluvr7 votesDude I have met so many players who flame other teammates over one benign mistake that didn't cost the game anything. Just chill bros, damn.
Mister Punches4 votesHonestly, the ones who complain about positive players being positive are, from my personal experience, the ones who go full tilt at the slightest mistake, are often toxic, and usually the ones who are overly cocky and lack skill.
I encountered those in Bronze a lot, and to be honest, if they weren't on my team, I took heavy advantage of that, since it would be a free win for me. I know it sounds like I'm a jerk, but if I see a toxic player who spends more time complaining about their teammates rather than playing, I already know that the game will be one sided. If they're on my team, I mute them and continue on. If they're on the enemy team, I mute them and take a free win.
darkmatchwaldo2 votesThis. The second someone starts trash talking their OWN team in all caht you know you have the game in the bag.
Ada Wong3 votesThe only thing you can do is mute these players and try to keep it a positive experience go about your game, don't talk toxic stuff back but only say nice things, don't even threaten reports.
The reason is because these days every time someone does badly for (X) reason a player always generally starts harassing chat accusing a person of Intentionally feeding, I have as a player went through this over and over again, and I am not just talking about League OF Legends, where currently I am banned from playing because they think I feed Intentionally, but other games DOTA 2, Smite I can do just as bad, and never been banned from them.
While I agree that compared to League I suck at DOTA, you know what happens when I play with someone else I generally feed most of the time, or do a lot worse than I normally would, when I play solo I generally do a lot better, I think my problem is generally playing with most people who don't play similiar type of play.
Playing a Bot Role for some players is harder than it is for others, and yes players do bad, the enemy gets two kills, do you even understand who has the advantage now (The Enemy) If you go into a direct (All in fight) who is likely to win (The Enemy) not you the except being certain champions, and quick plays, for example all in Annie Support combo + Immediate ADC follow up you can do better. ( In General with a skilled bot lane player we can easily kill an ADC in under 3 seconds, regardless of the support being played on enemy team most of the time.)
In general being a player for years, I remember League OF Legends before all this toxicity suddenly started happening, and the game used to be great I remember when people wouldn't get mad for going 
Mid, or 
Top, Does anyone here not played as long as I have to Remember the old season when Sivir was one of the most over powered champions in the entire game?
alfavhunter1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ada Wong,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-25T22:09:32.142+0000)
The only thing you can do is mute these players and try to keep it a positive experience go about your game, don't talk toxic stuff back but only say nice things, don't even threaten reports.
The reason is because these days every time someone does badly for (X) reason a player always generally starts harassing chat accusing a person of Intentionally feeding, I have as a player went through this over and over again, and I am not just talking about League OF Legends, where currently I am banned from playing because they think I feed Intentionally, but other games DOTA 2, Smite I can do just as bad, and never been banned from them.
While I agree that compared to League I suck at DOTA, you know what happens when I play with someone else I generally feed most of the time, or do a lot worse than I normally would, when I play solo I generally do a lot better, I think my problem is generally playing with most people who don't play similiar type of play.
Playing a Bot Role for some players is harder than it is for others, and yes players do bad, the enemy gets two kills, do you even understand who has the advantage now (The Enemy) If you go into a direct (All in fight) who is likely to win (The Enemy) not you the except being certain champions, and quick plays, for example all in Annie Support combo + Immediate ADC follow up you can do better. ( In General with a skilled bot lane player we can easily kill an ADC in under 3 seconds, regardless of the support being played on enemy team most of the time.)
In general being a player for years, I remember League OF Legends before all this toxicity suddenly started happening, and the game used to be great I remember when people wouldn't get mad for going
When I first liked me and my brother would go bot
Sion alistar. This was old Sion he would stun I would stun and he would AA the. I mock them toward our tower and we keep killing them
Worked very well, was funny
Avios11 votes[{quoted}](name=Ada Wong,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-25T22:09:32.142+0000)
The only thing you can do is mute these players and try to keep it a positive experience go about your game, don't talk toxic stuff back but only say nice things, don't even threaten reports.
The reason is because these days every time someone does badly for (X) reason a player always generally starts harassing chat accusing a person of Intentionally feeding, I have as a player went through this over and over again, and I am not just talking about League OF Legends, where currently I am banned from playing because they think I feed Intentionally, but other games DOTA 2, Smite I can do just as bad, and never been banned from them.
While I agree that compared to League I suck at DOTA, you know what happens when I play with someone else I generally feed most of the time, or do a lot worse than I normally would, when I play solo I generally do a lot better, I think my problem is generally playing with most people who don't play similiar type of play.
Playing a Bot Role for some players is harder than it is for others, and yes players do bad, the enemy gets two kills, do you even understand who has the advantage now (The Enemy) If you go into a direct (All in fight) who is likely to win (The Enemy) not you the except being certain champions, and quick plays, for example all in Annie Support combo + Immediate ADC follow up you can do better. ( In General with a skilled bot lane player we can easily kill an ADC in under 3 seconds, regardless of the support being played on enemy team most of the time.)
In general being a player for years, I remember League OF Legends before all this toxicity suddenly started happening, and the game used to be great I remember when people wouldn't get mad for going
Amen to that Brother. Been here since Season 2. Wasn't very uncommon to see anyone anywhere.
Can U AD See Me1 votesThey do get mad? I went Tris top to pantheon and nobody in my team have a single fuck and our jungler even had some early successful gankse in top
Phuc Dat Bich3 votes"draven 0-20" "Its ok we got this"
When i see something like that with this kind of score if i was having this person in front of me i would slap him so hard he would need a new jaw
Yeahs this "positive" words can drive anyone insane because its obvious trolling
HOW IN THE NAME OF ANY GOD YOU BELIEVE A 0-20 IS "ITS OK WE GOT THIS"
The Lexer5 votesWhere did I say 0-20?
Phuc Dat Bich2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Lexer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-11-26T02:39:40.698+0000)
Where did I say 0-20?
if someone is 0-4 at 4 minutes at 20 minutes would be 0-20
But anyway i wasent talking about your example i m talking about general that someone feed and then in order to "protect" his account from his trolling he say some "positive" stuff on the chat
Mister Punches9 votesBY that logic, if someone was 0-4 at 4 minutes, at 45 minutes, they would be 0-45.
I've had bad games before where I start off at 0-5 in the first 5-10 minutes of the game. But then I improve, but that's because I don't have a complete jerk of a teammate berating me for having a bad start.
If you see a teammate going 0-4 at 4 minutes, keyboard warrioring them will make them perform worse. So, if you don't have constructive criticism other than "I would slap them so hard they would need a new jaw", then you should keep quiet.
Rather than, "omg u suk if i could go into my screen and slap u across the face, i would", when your teammate makes a bad play, you should provide some better feedback. Because that's not feedback that you're providing, that's just you being a tool.
Phuc Dat Bich1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mister Punches,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-26T03:20:16.175+0000)
BY that logic, if someone was 0-4 at 4 minutes, at 45 minutes, they would be 0-45.
I've had bad games before where I start off at 0-5 in the first 5-10 minutes of the game. But then I improve, but that's because I don't have a complete jerk of a teammate berating me for having a bad start.
If you see a teammate going 0-4 at 4 minutes, keyboard warrioring them will make them perform worse. So, if you don't have constructive criticism other than "I would slap them so hard they would need a new jaw", then you should keep quiet.
Rather than, "omg u suk if i could go into my screen and slap u across the face, i would", when your teammate makes a bad play, you should provide some better feedback. Because that's not feedback that you're providing, that's just you being a tool.
When someone FEEDING and being 0-4 at 4 minutes as your example and then continues doing STUPID troll things and this person have the audacity to type in chat in order to "protect" his troll behavior in the gameplay lines like "We got this" i just want him death in the moment he finish that line ok? Because this is not "oh i am doing bad" is "i am trolling and i want to protect my account so i would make it hard for riot to understand what is going by typing positive Bullshits in chat while i just troll and feed"
I never say "Oh someone is 0-2 but actually try to win now burn him"
Because if you die EVERY minute there is something fishy going on its OBVIOUS that you dont try and you dont care about the game stop trying to "white knight" and pretend that you are a good guy and burst out of your bubble and see the reality when someone is 0-4 at 4 minutes and continues to feed its mean that he dosent play safe as he should doing and he just gave up and feeding but he type bullshits in chat to avoid ban
The more you know the less you wonder -Alexander Neils 1875
The Governer3 votesOh look, a typical flamer trying to justify his atrocity.
Avios15 votesDude, I've come back from a 0-30 game as Katarina. Anything is possible in this game. After all, it is the League of Legends.
CheftoniFTW3 votes[{quoted}](name=Vârg Vikernes,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-11-26T00:11:04.685+0000)
"draven 0-20" "Its ok we got this"
When i see something like that with this kind of score if i was having this person in front of me i would slap him so hard he would need a new jaw
Yeahs this "positive" words can drive anyone insane because its obvious trolling
HOW IN THE NAME OF ANY GOD YOU BELIEVE A 0-20 IS "ITS OK WE GOT THIS"
Do you honestly think all players without positive scores are trolls? There ARE other players on the enemy team, have you thought the possibility that maybe they're better? Have you thought of roaming to gank and help? The guy's trying to be positive, at least he's not distracting the rest of the team with their insolent insults that solve no problems but cause more. It's attitude like that that lose you games, not necessarily the deaths. You gain the enemy less money when you die more often, if you do the math, 0/20/0 character assuming he gave first blood would net the enemy less than 2000 gold, that's a BF sword and an extra item, maybe a pickaxe. There are things you can do to help instead of flaming your teammate, fyi.
Auroramancer3 votesNow I wouldn't be like that Yasuo, but when someone says "it's k we got this" when we clearly don't, just comes across as patronizing.
When something is wrong, don't act like it doesn't exist. Acknowledge it and move to fix it. Pretending that it doesn't exist can just end up making the affected people feel bitter towards the delusional person. Fake positivity isn't positivity at all.
Stars Shaper2 votesIndeed, something in the lines of "Sorry, my bad. But we can still work it out, I'll be careful" would be a positive attitude and not a denial one.
That's what I say when I get some terrible lane or do something really stupid.
Prozzak2 votesHe gave up 3 kills, it isn't the end of the world and saying its k etc is only patronizing if you are looking to feel that way.
1ZslqTY3fd1 votesit's ok for you, maybe not for others. Don't force your point of view onto others dummy
Auroramancer2 votesIf someone breaks a bone or sprains a joint, you don't say "it's okay" or "it's nothing, forget about it"; you say "you'll make it through this man" or "that's rough, but I know you're strong".
Of course breaking a bone isn't the same as dying 3 times in a video game, but on a conceptual level, ignoring someone's problem can do more harm than good and comes across as patronizing, like "haha hey man fuck your problem, look at how positive I am and be like me!!!". Actually empathizing with others is important.
Again, fake positivity isn't positivity at all.
Werewolf Link3 votesBeing positive is having more Kills and Assists than Deaths.
Zero Shingetsu2 votesTo be fair, "it's k we got this" could have been interpreted as sarcasm. I try to elaborate for that reason. "Will you relax? We're down five kills and ahead on towers. I'm having a bad game, but the rest of you are doing great. We'll be fine." But I understand a lot of people don't type as fast as I do. :/ It's unfortunate that it's hard to be positive these days.
I Main Swain2 votesits being positive your team is garbage right?
Skadeglädje2 votesIn these situations the absolute best thing to do is being constructive. It's a team game, after all, and teams can work around losing lanes. It's very rare for a team to win all lanes so bitching about the losing one will only hurt the whole team. As a jungler "k, I'll camp [lane] for a while, play def and we'll try to shut [x] down" or mid laners roamin or tops lane swapping can actually help you win games. Or the person keeps losing badly in which case you lose. Which, shockingly, 50% of all players do every game!
kaltenashes1 votesyeah, needs to learn to mute if someone's being a jerk, play your game and work hard for the comeback, because throws are real, pretty real (lost a game today, where my team wasn't thinking right, we almost won the game, the enemy nexus survived with something like 10-50 hp... i said lets get baron group up win a team fight win the game but my team decided to go 1 by 1 try to last hit the nexus and they all failed...we lost)
Solitair1 votesHere's the problem with "positivity", it can be just as bad, if not worse, than negativity. Negativity is highly stigmatized, and seen as a bad quality to have and exhibit as a human being, while positivity is unfairly viewed as an ideal quality and something that is always helpful. It is true, moderated positivity can help you to continue to strive for a turnaround in any bad situation. Thoughts like " We can still do this" or " If we can play this right, we still have a chance". For this to be helpful, you'd have to actually recognize the factors that would culminate in success and make the proper decisions based off of that knowledge. ex: You'd need to see the iceberg and steer the ship away in time.
Negativity is recognizing that if you do not make better decisions, or change things, you have less or no chance to succeed. Good negativity is very helpful, ex: "Sir! We are headed for an iceberg. If we don't steer clear, we are going to crash!" This negativity avoids disasters.
negativity can be harmful for obvious reasons that everyone knows and constantly rehashes, while ignoring it's good points. Positivity can be harmful in ways people always refuse to acknowledge. bad positivity will BLIND you to the circumstances and doom you to failure because it prevents you from recognizing that you need to take proper action to accomplish success. Blind, harmful positivity is "oh an iceberg? Stay the course. It's no big deal, we'll make it :)". Comforting words, but It will drive you straight into disaster. It is well documented. Positivity actually played a huge role in the recent American recession.
So I hope you've learned something about positivity, and why it is not always good.
Zenanii1 votes[{quoted}](name=Intrepid 07,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xy7oHOQH,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-11-26T03:55:53.599+0000)
Here's the problem with "positivity", it can be just as bad, if not worse, than negativity. Negativity is highly stigmatized, and seen as a bad quality to have and exhibit as a human being, while positivity is unfairly viewed as an ideal quality and something that is always helpful. It is true, moderated positivity can help you to continue to strive for a turnaround in any bad situation. Thoughts like " We can still do this" or " If we can play this right, we still have a chance". For this to be helpful, you'd have to actually recognize the factors that would culminate in success and make the proper decisions based off of that knowledge. ex: You'd need to see the iceberg and steer the ship away in time.
Negativity is recognizing that if you do not make better decisions, or change things, you have less or no chance to succeed. Good negativity is very helpful, ex: "Sir! We are headed for an iceberg. If we don't steer clear, we are going to crash!" This negativity avoids disasters.
negativity can be harmful for obvious reasons that everyone knows and constantly rehashes, while ignoring it's good points. Positivity can be harmful in ways people always refuse to acknowledge. bad positivity will BLIND you to the circumstances and doom you to failure because it prevents you from recognizing that you need to take proper action to accomplish success. Blind, harmful positivity is "oh an iceberg? Stay the course. It's no big deal, we'll make it :)". Comforting words, but It will drive you straight into disaster. It is well documented. Positivity actually played a huge role in the recent American recession.
So I hope you've learned something about positivity, and why it is not always good.
I think you're mixing up negativity with criticism. It's possible to give both positive and negative criticism, yet the later tends to make up the majority in league games, not to mention it is usually highly unconstructive ("stop feeding!" is not constructive criticism!). Also, in your examples the lives of hundreds of people on a boat, or the economy of a country is at stake. League of legends is a game. The only thing at stake is your precious ranked points, and if someone cares enough about those to display hostility towards their fellow teammates then the problem lies with them and not the team.
I agree that there are situations where positivity can be harmful, but league of legends is not one of them.
Solitair1 votesNope. Criticism is similar but it is not quite the same. Good negativity is realizing that the current path you are on is ruinous--seeing the danger . It is similar to criticism, but criticism can be applied in any situation, ruinous or not, and involves positive situations as much as negative ones. You could be on a clear path to victory with an environment full of positivity, and still benefit from criticism. If you are in a losing game, good negativity will tell you that you are not going to win unless you alter your strategy. Bad positivity, a blind "we got this" does nothing to help at all because people start to believe that victory will simply magically manifest. It gets in the way of intelligent agency. Positivity only helps if there is a chance and if you can implement difference in play-style and strategy to achieve victory. Negativity will tell you when you need to change something. Positvity will tell you that theres still hope if you act on those things.
Essentially, the difference between both good positivity/bad positivity and good negativity/ bad negativity is if you let the negativity or positivity reach an extremity in which you cannot think past the context, allowing either to substitute for actual thinking.
CircusT4ffy1 votesI find it very difficult to have fun when I play this game. It's just stopped being fun. There's no way around it.
When someone isn't having fun they can be far more prone to negative behaviour. Which is when they should stop playing.
Most people aren't like me and they don't stop though. They want to win. They want to get a high. They want to go up instead of feeling down. Until they get a winning feeling they are going to be upset. Whatever stops them from winning or they perceive as preventing them from winning is going to make them lash out. Not try to help out.
I hate League of Legends for that alone. The cycle of ups and downs is too much.
Affinity21 votesBecause when somebody plays like an asshole. Impatient lack of trust in my or our teamates ability to play thier champions playpattern (which you can tell based off of met reaction speed difference relative to how they respond to opponents options compares to teamates options) among other in game actions give a clear unspoken profile about what a player is actually thinking.
IN OTHER WORDS YOU CAN BE AN ASSHOLE WITHOUT SPEAKING AT A HIGH LEVEL OF PLAY.
The report system may not reflect it and i am certainly a toxic player but the people i bitch at get what they deserve. Its pretty easy to tell when a player is bad and trying vs someone tilting or not giving a shit about the game.
The difference is i tank a report to the face while these assholes dont say a word in chat and dont put the best effort to taking a nexus. Undercommunication should be a reportable offense
Occams Raiser1 votesdraven was trolling or didn't give a shit, which is also trolling. if it is literally 3 deaths in 4 minutes or even 3 deaths before level 6. since I have hit level 30 many moons ago I have yet to die 3 times before level 6.
Smitty Manjensen1 votesOk sry but I need to ask, how can he possibly die 3 times in 4 min without being a troll? You need around 30 second to go back to lane. so that leaves 2.30 min to be in lane.
elon wątroba1 votesCharlie Sheen does.
Crveni Malboro1 votesU encounterd a litle brat. THey are swarming league right now.Being 16 and being the smartest on a team is just wrong..
Dad Rock1 votes"Being positive" or "being nice" or "being a non toxic player" just means that you are manipulative and say what you think needs to be said for your team to do what you want them to do. Riot isn't promoting anti-toxic behavior, they're promoting manipulative behavior. It's hard to find someone who's actually nice and isn't affected by the outcome of a game when the game is competitive and that's how it should be. If you talk to any of these "positive players" they will tell you that they say "good job" to their teamates after every kill so that people don't feel like they need to surrender, they couldn't care less if the guy had a stroke after the game was over.
GayForYasuo1 votesYes, you are right in most aspects, but if I was in this game, I probably would have did the same thing as Yasuo, especially if it was a ranked game.
NotClarkolas1 votesDraven sucks balls. I would be mad at him too.
Claviature1 votesThat person is just irrational. He should've just accepted his mistake and ff'd. I'm with Yasuo on this one.
