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I was chat restricted for nothing.

Couffe··1 votes·950 views

I was chat restricted for 24 games only because I was already chat restricted and a gangplank reported me. This game the gangplank was the one toxic to me and I suggested that we open mid because we had a troll and afk. The gangplank then said to report me for toxicity and griefing. I then responded with I just said that I wanted to open mid. The gangplank was blaming me for the game even though I did nothing. I don't know if Riot actually reads the chat logs because I don't understand why I was chat restricted. Can someone (from riot preferably) explain why I got it.

Chat Logs: Game 1 undefined: Ashe undefined: Where is your hp pot? undefined: :) undefined: WTF undefined: ARE YOU DOING undefined: YOU STOLE XP undefined: going undefined: l undefined: gotta get xp back undefined: Retard ashe took like half of my xp undefined: ashe is trolling undefined: for sure. undefined: yes please. undefined: he just left. undefined: yea report both of our bot lane :) undefined: thanks undefined: welcome back undefined: gp this game is over due undefined: it's a 3v5 undefined: we got ashe trolling undefined: and afk ez undefined: Just ff at 20? undefined: Good thing only blind undefined: Or open mid? undefined: Let them end really quick undefined: Should we do that? undefined: gp it's 3v5. undefined: And you undefined: You still can undefined: and you decided to afk. undefined: So how does her trolling justify you leaving? undefined: run retard. undefined: open mid undefined: Yas undefined: Just come base undefined: jg for? undefined: What??? undefined: we said we should open mid undefined: because it's a 3v5 lol undefined: just end game fast undefined: and you got mad undefined: because you said you could carry undefined: it's not griefting undefined: pros open mid undefined: wa undefined: they know the game is over and they let them end undefined: and not waste time undefined: i don't understand why you think it's griefing undefined: :) undefined: Still reporting you ez. undefined: Getting my blue. undefined: YOu wanted to report me for nothing undefined: And not report the troller undefined: or the afk undefined: i don't understand why you blame me undefined: No he's not... undefined: He literally said undefined: I'm out undefined: Then left. undefined: Lag didn't make you afk. undefined: Lag didnt' make you undefined: You said undefined: I'm out undefined: Then left... undefined: WHEN YOU LEFT undefined: Good. undefined: :) undefined: game is over dude undefined: we are going to ff at 20. undefined: am I troling undefined: I think I got killed by varus. undefined: not because I was torlling undefined: i was farming. undefined: ... undefined: Don't worry GP can carry undefined: thought I was muted. undefined: when you have more deaths. undefined: But blame team? undefined: makes sense. undefined: what was I supposed to do? undefined: am I trolling? undefined: You took them when I started bot undefined: then I was bot lane undefined: and you took undefined: I haven't donated any :) undefined: Vi at my blue. undefined: Called it undefined: Report bot lane please :) undefined: :( undefined: Yea XD undefined: you can decide to troll. undefined: Idk undefined: gg undefined: ty

37 Comments

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

Threatening people with reports and lobbying to mass report, accusing people of trolling, trying to convince people to throw the match (no idea if you stopped participating or not, but that's important). Basically you were nothing but negative. Just play the game, mute toxic players, and if you want to forfeit use /ff when available but otherwise continue to play.

You don't need to ask others to report for you, all reports do is flag the match for review so yours alone is fine. Was this the reform card provided in the client? If not, that one might have more matches to show.

Couffe1 votes

I did not give up I just suggested that we should open mid and not waste our time. I have seen people on streams like Bjergsen do this. So I didn't know it was illegal

AeroWaffle3 votes

undefined: run retard.

I think it's obvious what's wrong with this line.

undefined: open mid

Negative attitude

undefined: Report bot lane please :)

Asking people to report is harassment, you're just using the system to do so. Each person should be reporting on their own decision, not because other people are pressuring them.

Couffe1 votes

Is saying to open mid illegal? Because I've seen streamers do open mids because they know the game is over and they don't want to wait till 20 min. Also we had no chance at winning because we had a troll and an afk, so pretty much a 3v5. Also I thought chat restrictions were based off of 3 games not 1.

AeroWaffle1 votes

As I understand it. It's an open declaration that you've given up.

Couffe1 votes

If you know the game is gone why should you waste your time. If it was a 4v5 I wouldn't of done this but it was a 3v5. If Riot doesn't want open mid to happen then they should implement a 15 min surrender

AeroWaffle1 votes

You're obligated to continue to try and play until the game has reached the conclusion. No exceptions. There can't be any because otherwise some players would take any excuse to give up and think that the exception would apply to their game as well.

Couffe1 votes

We ended up forfeiting so we did try our best. So there was no open mid and the game reached a conclusion. So I shouldn't be chat restricted for suggesting something that didn't even happen.

AeroWaffle1 votes

By that logic, people who threaten to troll shouldn't be punished unless they actually troll.

Couffe1 votes

If they threaten to troll but end up not doing it what did they do wrong? I didn't "threat" to open mid I simply suggested it. The Yasuo on our team said we should too but our gangplank didn't want to so we didn't.

AeroWaffle1 votes

If they threaten to troll but end up not doing it what did they do wrong?

They threatened to troll? Think of it this way, if someone in champ select said, "Give me, <your role> or I'm going to intentionally feed", how would you feel (especially if it was your promo series)? What about a player that selects Nami jungle without smite?

I didn't "threat" to open mid I simply suggested it.

"Open mid" is not a suggestion, it's a declaration.

"Can we please open mid?" would be a suggestion.

Couffe1 votes

You obviously didn't look before that I said

undefined: Or open mid? undefined: Let them end really quick undefined: Should we do that?

AeroWaffle2 votes

I did.

It sounds like you continued to try and push for "open mid" the entire game, becoming more and more forceful each time. As the game went on, your suggestions were turning into statements and declarations.

Couffe1 votes

I was talking to Yasuo not to the whole team because yasuo said it might be a good idea.

AeroWaffle1 votes

Why are you discussing with the enemy player whether or not your team should give up? Your chat is still visible to the team either way, so it doesn't really matter if you weren't talking directly to them.

Couffe1 votes

Yasuo was on my team.

AeroWaffle1 votes

You, Yasuo, EZ, Ashe, GP. Gotcha.

My second sentence still applies.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

It's basically announcing to your team that you're no longer going to play the match and are letting the enemy win. I recommend caution with how you go about asking your team if they want to do it; ask them if they want to let the enemy push uncontested, don't declare you're going to allow it without the approval of your entire team.

That's just icing on the cake in this situation anyways, that is not likely what made them decide to report you at all.

Geauxx1 votes

It can be, but anything can be if you want the truth, it's all personal perspective.

But yes, saying open mid is a form of negative attitude, possibly griefing.

Couffe1 votes

If people never asked for people to report why would anyone do it? And by asking people to report I am not taking away them being able to choose to report. They can still not do it but it's just informing them that they are trolling or afk. Also the only reason I got reported was because Gangplank wanted someone to blame. I find it ridiculous that Gangplank being more toxic than me was reported by me and got no punishment but me saying one thing gets me a chat restriction. Due to the fact that I've already got one.

AeroWaffle3 votes

Asking people to report is using the system to alienate and attack another player.

it's just informing them that they are trolling or afk

Let them decide for themselves rather than through hearsay. How would you like it if someone on your team lied in all chat saying, "Report <your champion here> for trolling!" when you were just having a bad game?

Each person's report is their own. A single report in a game is enough to flag the game for the person you're reporting.

Gangplank will be held responsible for his behavior when the system judges him, but right now it's about you and your behavior.

Couffe1 votes

They still have a choice to report them. Also my toxic behavior was fine throughout the game other than that one line which is why I got chat restricted? I report people who are toxic to me and nothing happens I have never gotten the thank you for reporting message which proves that they don't care if one person reports them. So without telling people to report nothing gets done, I find the system flawed if that's the way it works. People don't care to report unless they are told to. (Unless they are the person being attacked) So telling someone to report someone shouldn't be considered an attack because even if it's a false report Riot would know that and do nothing about it. I did report Gangplank but I don't think anyone else did so he got off free, except I didn't because I already got a chat restriction so it doesn't matter how many people report me.

Couffe1 votes

And I was chat restricted for toxicity I didn't show toxicity throughout the whole game just that one line got me a chat restriction? And one game, this doesn't reflect the rest of my games. Or else they would've used other ones.

AeroWaffle1 votes

I gave you more than one line, and you asked other people to report someone in more than the one example I listed.

Couffe1 votes

But you gave me one line of toxicity, and the reason I got chat restricted was because of toxicity.

AeroWaffle3 votes

Here, I'll list the lines I gave again. With the other lines that essentially have the same problem.

undefined: Retard ashe took like half of my xp undefined: ashe is trolling undefined: yea report both of our bot lane :) .. undefined: run retard. .. undefined: open mid .. undefined: Still reporting you ez. .. undefined: Report bot lane please :)

I consider asking others to report, or threatening/promising to report people poor behavior.

Couffe1 votes

Wish these could show other people's chat then you would understand what I'm saying. When ashe was leashing I got the red then she stole xp from my krugs. Ezreal then afked because of ashe trolling. When ezreal came back he blamed lag and said ashe was trolling and to report her. I said still reporting you ez. I told the other team to report our bot lane because of what they did because they had no clue what was going on, and as I said before people don't care to report unless they are told too, because how are they supposed to know if someone is toxic to someone on the other team if they are toxic in teamchat. They won't be able to know unless they are told to report. With my first chat restriction is showed 3 games but this time only 1, why was my chat restriction based off of one game?

AeroWaffle1 votes

why was my chat restriction based off of one game?

Because you've already shown a history of poor behavior. The system keeps a much more watchful eye on players that have been recently punished.

Couffe1 votes

But in my games previously I didn't. They based it off of one game which happened to have a troll and an afk I didn't flame my team that game I said that we could open mid but that ended up not happening. Even if I showed that I was toxic in previous games gives no reason to use one game for a chat restriction because they couldn't find me toxic in anything other game or else they would've used them.

AeroWaffle2 votes

I didn't flame my team that game

This;

undefined: Retard ashe took like half of my xp undefined: run retard.

Isn't flaming?

Couffe1 votes

That's not the team :)

AeroWaffle2 votes

Ashe was not on your team? Because it sounds like she was by how much your were talking about her and asking others to report her.

Couffe1 votes

Ashe was trolling. Sge stole xp from me at the krugs. Then started to go to lanes and steal xp from the

GoleBilon1 votes

cmon man all the people that pick the line "open mid " how should he communicate with his teammates if they wanna open " open mid ? " is good but "open mid " is negative and bannable , other than that yea guy was toxic deserved ban not much to say

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Looks like some of the guys have already gone over some of the possible reasons why this match was reported. I think something Nami said might've gotten overlooked in the debate though, so I'll bring it up again. You don't need to ask other people to report people in your matches. All it takes is a single report to flag a match for review by the IFS. Your report. Having the other people on your team or the enemy team really doesn't make that much difference. So, by calling for reports, all you are doing is breaking the rules and running the risk of getting yourself reported for harassment. The IFS isn't like the old Tribunal where you see how many people on both teams reported the player. It's an automated system that picks up the match the moment one report is submitted, and isn't impressed by all those extra pretty colors and ally 1, ally 2, enemy 1, enemy 2, etc.

And for your own sake, you might not want to call other players retards anymore. That is a form of hate speech based on mental disability, and it's not looked on too favorably by many players.

GoleBilon1 votes

Lol you called your teammate a retard multiple times, and im considered toxic XDXD well deserved enjoy that you are not permabaned already

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Riot has ridiculously strict standards for what can be considered worthy of punishment, so although logically it may seem it was for nothing, that isn't the case with Riot's system.

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