Honor Level 2 for Clash?

Couffe··15 votes·16,426 views

Why do you need to be honor level 2 for clash. Most people that are gonna play clash are just playing with friends anyway. So they usually wont flame. Just kinda stupid that people that are trying to reform and just not able to do anything fun lol.

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tightbumholes12 votes

fml i got a chat restriction two days before the clash beta was announced, lost all honor. ill see yall in three months when i get to honour level 0 again, wont be playing clash till season 9 i guess

The Chad Support8 votes

I agree. if you are required to have a 5 man that are your friends/on your friends list why should it matter how i treat other people. i feel as though honor is just a bonus for someone who carries the team not for someone who has great shot calling or is tilt proof. lets be real here when was the last time you had an honor for shot-calling and were told good shot-calling, I'm willing to bet never. Now how many times have you hard carried the game and gotten all the honor just for the fact that you carried and nobody actually thought you didn't tilt or that you called good shots. How about instead of punishing players for not carrying a game, and not leveling up in honor. so lets be real here instead of making this honor based make it summoner level based make, make it freaking rank based but for gods sake stop ruining the game for people who cant get honor.

I hope someone important reads this rant, im sorry if it makes no sense but im tired lol

TLDR: stop making honor restrict what we can do

Your Fellow Summoner: ArandomCanadain

Lagenias1 votes

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I agree. if you are required to have a 5 man that are your friends/on your friends list why should it matter how i treat other people. i feel as though honor is just a bonus for someone who carries the team not for someone who has great shot calling or is tilt proof. lets be real here when was the last time you had an honor for shot-calling and were told good shot-calling, I'm willing to bet never. Now how many times have you hard carried the game and gotten all the honor just for the fact that you carried and nobody actually thought you didn't tilt or that you called good shots. How about instead of punishing players for not carrying a game, and not leveling up in honor. so lets be real here instead of making this honor based make it summoner level based make, make it freaking rank based but for gods sake stop ruining the game for people who cant get honor.

I hope someone important reads this rant, im sorry if it makes no sense but im tired lol

TLDR: stop making honor restrict what we can do

Your Fellow Summoner: ArandomCanadain

It does matter, because a lot of those clash teams are not friends - they are prefound on forums, kinda like solo queuing - you dont know them well, still you have to behave and dont treat them like shit if they are not as good as you expected from them probably

Zond Lilac6 votes

I agree, Especially considering how long it takes for you to rise up from dishonored. Feels kinda ham fisted and just like a slap in the face which will force people to use smurfs. Really dumb decision tbh

Nanolathe114 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zond Lilac,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hfWARdjH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-10T01:50:41.951+0000)

I agree, Especially considering how long it takes for you to rise up from dishonored. Feels kinda ham fisted and just like a slap in the face which will force people to use smurfs. Really dumb decision tbh

exactly, ive been dropped from honor level 4 last season to level 0 cuz i had 1 bad match and now not only do i rarely get key frags but now i cant even participate in this event!? super lame

Lagenias2 votes

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exactly, ive been dropped from honor level 4 last season to level 0 cuz i had 1 bad match and now not only do i rarely get key frags but now i cant even participate in this event!? super lame

so funny .. I really want to know if people like you actually think what they are saying ... level 0 because you had 1 bad match..

a) you dont drop to level 0, you first get a warning b) second report series (not a single report, but a series of reports) you drop to level 1 c) if you still can not behave after the warning AND the honor level 1 drop (first chat restriction) you will get to honor level 0

1 single game where you have a bad game does nothing, except if it is mega hardcore flaming, with racist / lots of f yous / lots of i hope u die and crap like this.

I dropped to honor level 0 also, but after 25 games i was back at honor level 1 - and even if you dont get any warnings or chat restrictions you can still get reported and mods look over these ... like if you post things like "omg report xyz", "xyy inting" those kind of bad behaviours have to be gone, to be able to receive back your honor level 1

Nanolathe113 votes

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so funny .. I really want to know if people like you actually think what they are saying ... level 0 because you had 1 bad match..

a) you dont drop to level 0, you first get a warning b) second report series (not a single report, but a series of reports) you drop to level 1 c) if you still can not behave after the warning AND the honor level 1 drop (first chat restriction) you will get to honor level 0

1 single game where you have a bad game does nothing, except if it is mega hardcore flaming, with racist / lots of f yous / lots of i hope u die and crap like this.

I dropped to honor level 0 also, but after 25 games i was back at honor level 1 - and even if you dont get any warnings or chat restrictions you can still get reported and mods look over these ... like if you post things like "omg report xyz", "xyy inting" those kind of bad behaviours have to be gone, to be able to receive back your honor level 1

you honestly need to do research before you post something false and sound as silly as you do here. literally almost every counter point you made is not true at all lol

Professor Yi2 votes

I think you have the warning confused with leaver buster and you are very wrong on the level 1 drop. Me and my friends were msging each other in norms and we said Kay Why Es to each other twice as a chant to engage the enemy, instantly restricted right after that game and my level dropped to 0.

Just Tycho1 votes

Riot is WAY too loose and harsh with chat restrictions. It shouldn't even take away your honor. I got my first chat restriction two months ago, and JUST got my honor back despite getting 2-3 honors each game at LEAST. Chat restriction is definitely not worth all of that, especially since you can just be sitting there sending friendly banter and the enemy will report you for it. They're catering to the snowflake community, not the gamer community.

Andrew Stephens1 votes

logged in just to downvote this

Kei1433 votes

Simulation of sportsmanship behavior in organized sports. People with bad behavior get benched and kicked off the team.

Nanolathe112 votes

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Simulation of sportsmanship behavior in organized sports. People with bad behavior get benched and kicked off the team.

no if a player is having a bad game or a bad attitude you sit him for a quarter or maybe the whole game, he learns his lesson and is back in business next game.

ive literally been climbing from honor level 0 for at least 3 months now and im still only level 1

Kei1432 votes

Common mistakes that people don't know are hindering their honor progress:

  • asking/threatening for reports
  • claiming they are done and threatens to afk
  • calling others noob / kid
  • KDA / rank shaming
Nanolathe114 votes

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Common mistakes that people don't know are hindering their honor progress:

  • asking/threatening for reports
  • claiming they are done and threatens to afk
  • calling others noob / kid
  • KDA / rank shaming

i wish it was more transparent. like what kind of system are they using? is it a sort of point system where if everyone honors each other then you get say 100 honor points that game. and if you say the things mentioned above or are toxic does that mean you get 0 honor points all together or is it just a deduction from the maximum you can receive? that being said, is there bonus points for saying good things like glhf, nice job, thanks for the help, gg, etc.. ive always wondered such things, and i really just wish they had an honor progress bar that you could see go up and down and also that it stated how MUCH honor you earned from each game. i think if people knew these details then it would give them more incentive to be nice to each other in game. granted you dont need an incentive to be nice to someone but you know what i mean

Kei1431 votes

It is indeed a point system.

From what Riot has said, being positive and encouraging will yield you more points and getting validly reported will drastically slow down your honor progress.

It is possible to be moving up in honors while still be validly reported, and eventually punished

SharpEdgedDonger2 votes

I flamed a guy who did all that to me and got chat restrict for that 1 game. No other game, just that one game. And I was so close to honor level 3. Fuck you rito

Kei1431 votes

The system is a point system. Every time you get validly reported, you get a toxicity score. When you reach a certain threshold , you'll get punished.

Now the reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior. No way they can fit all of your chatlogs there.

Lagenias1 votes

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I flamed a guy who did all that to me and got chat restrict for that 1 game. No other game, just that one game. And I was so close to honor level 3. Fuck you rito

lies over lies ... Chat Restriction only happens after a butload of reports 10+ games

Just Tycho1 votes

And reports can be falsified. I've gone through a given chat log for a restriction and I showed it to a cluster of people and they couldn't understand why. Some of them were even in game with me and saw what was said to me and how I was harmlessly defending myself and others. Instant restriction. And they won't let you redeem yourself. They have a bot do it for them, and it only goes over your logs and looks for keywords, it doesn't care about phrasing or sentencing. If you say "My brothers gay and there's nothing wrong with that" someone can report you and the bot will see GAY and flag you. You can get a chat restriction easier than you can get a gun in Alabama.[zombie-brand-mindblown]

GajeelTheIron1 votes

i got chat restricted on two games, its not about how many games, its about how many people report you, i literally got reported for calling someone dumbhead.

HavokDash3 votes

I try telling people this and they laugh it off "yeah right, ur a troll. stop lying"

proof the community sees Riot as a fucking joke, thier "summoners code" is a mockery. Take a team game and tell every player on the team "you are the SOLO carry, You dont need these other 4 players. Its all about YOU" and watch any Idea of playing as a team fly out the window. I gave up long ago and now just wait for the above to come up so I can report them. :)

Baby Ghoul1 votes

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Common mistakes that people don't know are hindering their honor progress:

  • asking/threatening for reports
  • claiming they are done and threatens to afk
  • calling others noob / kid
  • KDA / rank shaming

Actually we don't know exactly what halts and aids honor progress. That's a good guess though, but the issue is that the honor system lacks clarity and forces people to grind while providing them with very few helpful guidelines.

Lagenias1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Baby Ghoul,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hfWARdjH,comment-id=0004000000000003,timestamp=2018-11-03T03:04:53.285+0000)

Actually we don't know exactly what halts and aids honor progress. That's a good guess though, but the issue is that the honor system lacks clarity and forces people to grind while providing them with very few helpful guidelines.

this is no guess what he explained up there - this was mentioned from mods on several topics already where people where crying they dont get their honor level 1 back even though they where not chat restricted anymore for more than 3/4/5/6 months ... a Mod (at least once i saw it) responded, that he looked into his profile and sees a lot of "omg kid" "report xyz" "he is inting" and stuff like this, which is not honorable, just report if you think he deserves, but dont encourage him into a flame war

Just Tycho1 votes

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Common mistakes that people don't know are hindering their honor progress:

  • asking/threatening for reports
  • claiming they are done and threatens to afk
  • calling others noob / kid
  • KDA / rank shaming
  • Having an afk and wanting the enemy to help get them reformed
  • Getting flamed by your own team and showing that you're done with it
  • -SPORTSMAN/FRIENDLY BANTER-
  • Getting told "No wonder you're low silver/hardstuck"

Made it easier for everyone to understand.

Lagenias1 votes

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no if a player is having a bad game or a bad attitude you sit him for a quarter or maybe the whole game, he learns his lesson and is back in business next game.

ive literally been climbing from honor level 0 for at least 3 months now and im still only level 1

I dropped to honor level 0 also, but after 25 games i was back at honor level 1 - and even if you dont get any warnings or chat restrictions you can still get reported and mods look over these ... like if you post things like "omg report xyz", "xyy inting" those kind of bad behaviours have to be gone, to be able to receive back your honor level 1.

So I am pretty sure you are regularly flaming, not ban / chat restriction worthy, but flamy.

Sports related: If a player has a bad game you sit him on the bank - thats the warning you receive on your first flame-war .... If this doesnt help you get honor level 1 and a chat restriction for the first time ... if this STILL doesnt help you get honor level 0 and no rewards any longer ... Same like in sports first a warning (yellow card), then a red card where you sit out 1 game or even multiple games and if you can not behave at all you will receive a ban from the team / league / sport

Nanolathe111 votes

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I dropped to honor level 0 also, but after 25 games i was back at honor level 1 - and even if you dont get any warnings or chat restrictions you can still get reported and mods look over these ... like if you post things like "omg report xyz", "xyy inting" those kind of bad behaviours have to be gone, to be able to receive back your honor level 1.

So I am pretty sure you are regularly flaming, not ban / chat restriction worthy, but flamy.

Sports related: If a player has a bad game you sit him on the bank - thats the warning you receive on your first flame-war .... If this doesnt help you get honor level 1 and a chat restriction for the first time ... if this STILL doesnt help you get honor level 0 and no rewards any longer ... Same like in sports first a warning (yellow card), then a red card where you sit out 1 game or even multiple games and if you can not behave at all you will receive a ban from the team / league / sport

its funny you say things like ""dont post things like "omg report xyz", "xyz inting". those kind of behaviors have to be gone. then your very next sentence is doing exactly what you just told me not to do. youre accusing me of flaming people alot and thats just simply not true so good story.

Just Tycho1 votes

I never got dropped to honor level 1, I never got any sort of warning, I got nothing. Out of the blue I got a 2 week restriction (Yes! Two week chat restriction!) and dropped all the way to honor 0. It took me 2 months to climb back to honor 1, and I didn't even bother using chat that entire time.

Vreivai1 votes

Tell me when the Giants cut OBJ.

Secrios1 votes

Kill joys like you never even get a bench to begin with.

Chermorg2 votes

As it is still in beta, the honor requirement serves multiple purposes - all of which go to ensure that the environment is good and clean for testing and bug reports. To help ensure there's minimal if any toxicity, they locked it with honor 2 or greater. This requirement may but is not guaranteed to change before it goes live eventually.

Κ Y Λ Π2 votes

I was temp banned for account sharing :/ After like 1 and honors every game from premade and from randoms im still lvl 1 checkpoint 0. Its bs

KuhakuDesu2 votes

honors should just get a bit more rewards and lower than honor lvl 2 will get lesser rewards and im honor lvl 1 rn and so close to 2 honestly rito sucks

Big Barrel Boy2 votes

same man. i got chat restricted about a month ago, and it takes so long to bring it back up. im at a checkpoint 2 and i can play clash now. I had a team and everything. season 8 sucks

Bright Claws1 votes

What is Clash?

Couffe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bright Claws,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hfWARdjH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-10T00:53:23.237+0000)

What is Clash?

They are doing a beta test for Clash. It's a competitive type of thing where you find 4 other people to play with you. It's more competitive than ranked. It's in a bracket format so kind of like a tournament.

FNC Vanukas1 votes

s9 Honor system is a fucking joke. Literally trolled 1 game in rank hole season and i get 14 day ban witch is fine and my honor goes from 5 to 0. Now i have played for 3 months and im still at honor 0. Seems impossible to get my honor back to level 2. Rip my main acc. And fuck this honor system.

ModPrandine

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s9 Honor system is a fucking joke. Literally trolled 1 game in rank hole season and i get 14 day ban witch is fine and my honor goes from 5 to 0. Now i have played for 3 months and im still at honor 0. Seems impossible to get my honor back to level 2. Rip my main acc. And fuck this honor system.

How fast you gain honor is all dependent on your behavior. If you're displaying behavior that's poor but not poor enough to warrant a punishment then that can slow your honor progress. If you're struggling to climb in honor then try examining how you're behaving, as chances are you're behaving in a way (either knowingly or unknowingly) that's preventing you from climbing in honor ranks.

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