The "I don't care" attitude has gotten so much fucking worse since Dynamic que.

6o1hOOJVDL··9 votes·1,370 views

Sorry for the foul language, but ever since the introducion of Dynamic que the "I don't care" mindset/attitude has been growing & growing. Groups of 3-4 who treat the game like a normal, give up after 1-2 mistakes & say "I don't care" because the only reason they're playing ranked is Dynamic is easier for them to secure the roles they want than in normals.

It's doing my fucking head, sure when the old ques were a thing it happened occasionally. but it seems to be a more common occurance now, I'm not sure if It's just me & recent badluck with dynamic but holy fuck I miss the more competitve feel of old ranked que.

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Prozzak5 votes

Pretty sure it has more to do with how quick teams snowball a lead then it has to do with Dynamic queue.

entitledplayer2 votes

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Pretty sure it has more to do with how quick teams snowball a lead then it has to do with Dynamic queue.

Players from Unranked ~ Gold 3 reguarly do not know how to snowball a lead, and are very quick to throw it because of greediness for kills under and near turrets and objectives where they don't have vision.

It's prototypical NA Throws --- The regular "idc" attitude is from a subset of players who'd rather not try to win if they aren't already ahead and band out another match, than attempt to do well every match;

And the bad news is that it's a vast majority of the playerbase.

You can tell by looking at match length across the ELOs, as well as turret destruction, warding, and gold swings in your own matches, as well as from websites that track these statistics by the honest numbers.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-6-6-infographics http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/warding

lolptwo1 votes

Pretty sure it has more to do with how quick teams snowball a lead then it has to do with Dynamic queue.

Pretty sure the snowballing of games has a lot to do with how some teams of dynamic Q are just vastly superior than other premade teams and the solo Q player has no control over how the rest of his team plays and just ends up losing regardless of how he played because it's a democracy

20619287DEL13 votes

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give up after 1-2 mistakes

Oh especially THIS! ... vayne ADC... the score is 1-5 in enemy favor: "well gg wp" ... when such things happen i could explode of anger.... this stupidity is driving me crazy

Leeerzeichen2 votes

I makes no sense to play 4 man ranked just to secure roles, because you could just play normal draftpick.

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

It's because of the snowball (effective and perceived)

Wolfenstin2 votes

The 'I don't care' mindset is strait toxic anywhere, normals, ranked, whatever.

And I mean the 'I don't care' mindset as in giving up first blood and 2 more kills to the enemy laner then just going "Lol, it's just X, it doesn't matter," and feeding their butt off.

If it's acceptable to act like that in normals because it's not ranked, why do I even play this game?

And for clarity sake, I am not promoting the flaming of teammates or taking the game too seriously, I just want people to at least attempt to win and not throw because they don't care.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

I run into people who care too much in normals. Every game there is a rager.

entitledplayer1 votes

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I run into people who care too much in normals. Every game there is a rager.

Pretty sure it's much favorable to have players that are trying harder than their best to get better, than for a team to plateau and lose because people don't care.

_Doesn't matter if it's a Normal Blind/Draft, doesn't matter if it's 700+ LP challenger Ranked; _ You need to care enough to put in effort, and care just shy of too little to let trolls affect you to the point that flamebaiters can tilt you.

This opinion you offer is nothing but one that contributes to the mindset being discussed.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Some people just want to have fun. What do we do for these people? Give them a separate queue called casual queue?

entitledplayer2 votes

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Some people just want to have fun. What do we do for these people? Give them a separate queue called casual queue?

They don't talk, and stay in the bubble they made for themselves by substituting ignoring any kind of socialization as they personal "reason" for having fun.

And by reason, I mean excuse. Fun is not a verb, it's an adjective until supplemented with a helper verb.

Fun is also relative and subjective -- They have fun playing the game, so they need to just play the game and say nothing, because nothing being discussed here would actually affect the ability to play the game -- because that's what "having fun" would be equated to with such a general statement.

Only way it's mean more is if you're not saying more; i.e: " I _have fun _ playing LoL by camping the shit out of top lane as jungle. "

The only people that would be triggered or find offense in the direction I'm coming in this discussion from are the players who feel they're entitled to do nothing, say nothing, and not even ping, and then put up their dukes to any and all communication or constructive criticism that's delivered correctly, as thought anything at all said to them is toxicity.

TL;DR,

If they're so diehard for one option to "not be harassed" when they're not being harrassed and forget there's more than just the entitlement they've grown fond of as the copout excuse to being anti-social, they need to /muteall every match, and be done with it.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

That wasn't the perspective I was talking from. I was responding to the other guy where we were talking from the perspective of the people who rage too much. In other words, people being mad that people are trying to have fun by trying out new champions or builds in normals.

I agree with muting everyone in every match because I do it. I still type in chat and communicate through pings to alert the team where the enemy is or what I will be doing on the map. At least as far as that is concerned.

entitledplayer1 votes

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That wasn't the perspective I was talking from. I was responding to the other guy where we were talking from the perspective of the people who rage too much. In other words, people being mad that people are trying to have fun by trying out new champions or builds in normals.

I agree with muting everyone in every match because I do it. I still type in chat and communicate through pings to alert the team where the enemy is or what I will be doing on the map. At least as far as that is concerned.

I stand by my statement, I was under the impression you were asking me an open question.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

I will stand by my stance that people should be able to try new things in normals but stick with what they know in ranked.

Good discussing with you. Happy gaming.

MasterSomething1 votes

Really? If anything, I've had more of a "never surrender" attitude in most of my games- struggles to the end. Everyone has different experiences I guess.

No flash no life1 votes

If ppl ever cared before, they stopped caring simply because there's just no more fun out of playing the game the way it's intended. Players prioritize their pleasure above all else, including winning the game if winning =/= fun. They strive to win if it's fun while doing so, but if that doesn't hold true anymore then they'll try to get pleasure in other ways, and by then they naturally don't care about the game anymore.

USMC81C1 votes

As others have said. This is due in some part because of how snowball the nature of the game is currently. An unfortunate fallout from balance changes from the pro game level. Which should not be confused with condoning, particularly because while snowballing plays a part that doesn't also factor in other non LCS level issues like trolling contributing to said snowballing and how this affects the players. Still it feels different from Season 3 and most of Season 4. I rarely ever saw people then with the sort of massive deaths in such a quick time like I see now. Not sure if it's a matter of item changes, new champs, etc but it is odd. It also does not help that unfortunately a fairly significant portion of the fanbase confuses experimenting and learning in normals as a license to violate EULA.

Nazuuka1 votes

I'm not sure it's because of snowballing. I'm in Bronze and even when the game is still winnable, there's still a lot of people being like that.

USMC81C1 votes

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I'm not sure it's because of snowballing. I'm in Bronze and even when the game is still winnable, there's still a lot of people being like that.

You are confused. I didn't say it was because of snowballing. I said snowballing contributes to it. Big difference.

Nazuuka1 votes

I just had a really bad lose streak (got demoted 2 times in less than 24 hours). I can say for sure it's because of the "I don't care" or "idgaf" attitude.

Mostly they're all just flaming other players despite they're doing really bad. Or sometimes they don't communicate, yet being toxic when they start talking (eg. Me asking the person to play safe / group, and they just reply with "stfu" or "report sona toxic").

I assure you, it's so bad I cried for the intensity of those kind of player. Also it's freaking RANKED. I got demoted twice in less than 24 hours, so "They just wanna have fun" isn't a logical reasoning.

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