Can you get banned without using the chat?

geecrain··1 votes·1,763 views

In most of my games, I usually spam taunt emotes when I kill someone and use abilities on dead corpses. I assume the enemy team reports me every game, but the thing is, I never use the chat. It doesn't fit the criteria of chat restriction, then onto 14 days suspension, then Perma ban, so how will riot ban me or will I ever get banned?

19 Comments

Ethan Allen1 votes

3 ways trolling inting hacking

It is kinda annoying and frowned upon, but it is not illegal

Kei1433 votes

don't forget ping spamming as harassment tool and constant AFKing as a griefing tool is also a 14-day ban

DONT NEEEED TEAM1 votes

really ping spamming ? cant they mute it

UnboundHades1 votes

just like theres a regular mute button but people dont understand that exist

Kei1434 votes

damage has been done if they had to use the mute button.

scazzman1 votes

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damage has been done if they had to use the mute button.

i disagree with this statement. a good chunk of the playerbase /mute alls at the start of every game

Baka Red1 votes

If you are saying using "mute all" is a good thing, you are wrong. In addition of protecting the person doing so from negative messages/pings, it also "protects" him from getting constructive/positive communication via chat (and useful pings via ping mute). Mute and Ping Mute are supposed to be used reactively, not proactively. If they were ment to be used Proactively, there would be a toggle/setting for that to happen automatically. Defending spam and ping spam with "mute and ping mute exist" is not rational. Thus "the damage has already been done" claim still stands even if you disagree with it.

scazzman2 votes

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If you are saying using "mute all" is a good thing, you are wrong. In addition of protecting the person doing so from negative messages/pings, it also "protects" him from getting constructive/positive communication via chat (and useful pings via ping mute). Mute and Ping Mute are supposed to be used reactively, not proactively. If they were ment to be used Proactively, there would be a toggle/setting for that to happen automatically. Defending spam and ping spam with "mute and ping mute exist" is not rational. Thus "the damage has already been done" claim still stands even if you disagree with it.

If you read my other posts. You will see that im actually one of the staunchest opponents of /mute all. And think it should be removed from the game.

zPOOPz3 votes

Just because the ping mute function exists is not a green signal for people to use it as harassment or trolling troll. Of course you can mute it, but as the saying goes...." mute AND REPORT"

AlienPrimate1 votes

Using emotes is not pinging though. I say it isn't bannable because why else would emotes even be in the game.

Cocho1 votes

I believe this is how it works. The system is automatic, after getting reported so many times consistently, then you'll get chat blocked or something. They don't ban someone until multiple steps or hatespeech. They detect hate speech by what you're typing.

So if you're getting reported for bm-ing in game, idk if the system checks and realizes you've said nothing. You could still get reported for other things.

Streamers have gotten banned randomly before for inting and such when they haven't done anything. But they probably just being smart in chat. Like this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMSGgwE_yiM

Its rare, and a quick support ticket or tweet fixes it real quick

Kartagia1 votes

Simply put: if enough people report you, and you are not popular streamer, you get punished. The reason of punishment is irrelevant as there is no human investigation, but simply automatic system believing every single report is factual and not as revenge tool. Riot has never investigated any ban whose victim is not high priority very popular streamer, as all they care is their rep, not justice.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

100% untrue on all counts.

Punishment is based on the frequency and severity of your behavior when you're reported. Report volume is irrelevant, as false reports get tossed out.

Manual review is unnecessary for almost all cases, as there is a path of escalation based on the frequency and severity of the behavior (as I mentioned). This means that it takes a lot more than a few games of minor toxicity (which basically everyone exhibits sometimes) to get punished; it's the pattern of that behavior that results in punishment, making the system pretty accurate for not punishing unfairly or too severely.

Riot actually does manually review all the time. You can just look at Riot Tantram's boards profile and see that he does it on his own free time, and you can see people posting their ticket discussions on the Player Behavior board as well where Player Support Specialsts like Jenny711 review the case upon request. The thing is, the IFS is so accurate with punishing negative chat that a manual review comes up with the same conclusion nearly 100% of the time; when there is a mistake, they really do remove the punishments, and it doesn't matter whether you're a high profile player or not.

Kartagia1 votes

People like you also think game events and chat of other players are unnecessary. Tell me honestly how well you can understand convwrsation whose context is removed? I know you argue context is irrelevant,but you have never gave any reason why it is so. And last time I gave you example, you ignored it.

One simple question: should we trust your opinion when it is quite likely you cannot any language,but your own, or opinion of female ceo of the Finnish company, which is tech leader of forum automoderation software. And that ceo does have academic degree? She told every single client should use it as screening tool for human review, not fully automatic system.

And you ypurself say number of reports a.d their frequency matter which proves my case. 4 per game is higher frequency than 1 per game.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

And you ypurself say number of reports a.d their frequency matter which proves my case. 4 per game is higher frequency than 1 per game.

No, multiple reports in a game don't stack at all. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/9VrUtrJo-being-solo-and-having-a-team-report?comment=00000000000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

I Love Thresh1 votes

Taunting and bming isn't ban worthy last time I checked, otherwise there would be no taunt emote. Thankfully, cuz spamming laugh/dance/taunt/joke after getting a bullshit kill is hilarious.

weltmaxx1 votes

It's not bannable, and if it ever was i'd lose hope on the punishment system

Xurreal1 votes

For what you talk about, no you can't get banned for "THAT".

But you can get banned without using chat.

For instance, I met a Panda Teemo who would feed 30 times in 20 minutes.

He got banned within a week.

They watch replays at high speeds and slow down for what they are looking for as it goes by. Our replay tool came from their replay tool, but theirs details chat logs and stuff. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. You don't seem to flame. The act of speaking speaks louder than what you say (speaking as an action).

You're fine.

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