PSA

ZED G0D·Mar 29, 2016·77 votes·4,319 views

Buying skins and champs, spending mass amounts of money on LoL does not grant you immunity. stop acting like riot should unban you just because you spent money on the game.

88 Comments

MyrmironMar 29, 201615 votes

Well, I spent over 1000€ on this game and Riot never gave me even a chat restriction. [slayer-jinx-wink]

ZED G0DMar 29, 20162 votes

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Well, I spent over 1000€ on this game and Riot never gave me even a chat restriction. [slayer-jinx-wink]

I've spent close to 1000, only got 1 chat restriction for a few games..nothing since then, that was a year ago

ModWuksMar 29, 201616 votes

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Well, I spent over 1000€ on this game and Riot never gave me even a chat restriction. [slayer-jinx-wink]

There's clearly a correlation - spend over 1,000 Euros and you won't get chat restricted. Easy!

Just kidding. The best way to avoid punishments is to avoid toxicity. And y'all can believe me when I say that I've had my fair share of difficulties keeping a lid on it, but so long as you realize that toxicity doesn't actually get you anywhere, you should do just fine.

MhihnjMar 30, 20161 votes

i just scream internally

Just ShimakazeMar 30, 20161 votes

The best way to avoid punishments is to avoid toxicity and the best way to avoid toxicity is to avoid playing the game

Kappa

but seriously I was in a normal (I'm level 26) and I had a level 22 lucian adc going against a plat one ashe adc and all I'll say is that I had to report him at the end of the game. I wish people knew being toxic doesn't help and I also wish people could distinguish ranked play from normals.

Monkey D LuffyMar 30, 20161 votes

Toxicity can be useful to let out anger but it's not worth it, remember guys, there are far better ways to let your anger out, don't take it out on other people, however if someone is being toxic to you just ignore and report them, you'll be better off.

HowPlayGAEMMar 29, 20164 votes

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HighH1Mar 29, 20163 votes

Sarcasm?

iamthegoatofwarMar 30, 20162 votes

I dunno maybe? I still don't trust riot's robot to handle bans for chat behavior and what not...

Just ShimakazeMar 30, 20161 votes

If you file a support ticket and prove that your ban was false you will get unbanned...

Blame The YasMar 29, 20163 votes

But muh skinz!

LintheMar 29, 20163 votes

But where is my good behavior skin for last season??!!!)

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

General Esdeath Mar 29, 20163 votes

But I spent $5, how can they ban me for my remarks about that guy being a loser because he's black?!? That's just unfair.

entitledplayerMar 29, 20162 votes

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But I spent $5, how can they ban me for my remarks about that guy being a loser because he's black?!? That's just unfair.

http://prntscr.com/alq61v

Please tell us you're being sarcastic, because that's a textbook example of harassment, racism, and hate speech.

dapositivevikingMar 29, 20164 votes

its sarcasm

3PowerMar 29, 20162 votes

Look, either riot should refund cash after banning, or punishments should never escalate to a ban in the first place. You honestly see nothing screwed up about a company taking your money and then going "K, goodbye forever!" ?

Reaper ReviewMar 29, 201616 votes

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Look, either riot should refund cash after banning, or punishments should never escalate to a ban in the first place. You honestly see nothing screwed up about a company taking your money and then going "K, goodbye forever!" ?

So if I purchase a car and run it off a cliff, I should be able to get my money back for the car, right?

3PowerMar 29, 20165 votes

If I purchase a car, the car company should not be able to steal it and run it off a cliff because I did something to hurt a third party's feelings.

AstôlfoMar 29, 20169 votes

Uh, no. It's like saying you buy a car and then use it for crime. You're going to go to jail/court for the crime (the actual punishment), as well as have the car taken from you.

3PowerMar 29, 20161 votes

Can you prove that schoolteacher fiona had any connection to me flaming shrooms4days? No? Then why should it be taken from me?

AstôlfoMar 29, 201610 votes

Why do I have to prove it? I'm not the one punishing you. The punishment system Riot has in place got all the proof they needed. Your argument is invalid.

R4v1nc3Mar 29, 20162 votes

Yes, it's called insurance.

AstôlfoMar 29, 20164 votes

"your money" It's not your money, it's Riot's. You willingly gave it to them for skins or whatever else you bought. It's not your money anymore. And they're not going to ban you unless you break the rules, so you have no reason to complain unless you're a dick. :P

3PowerMar 29, 20162 votes

"your money" It's not your money, it's Riot's.

Fine, then they're not riot's skins, they're mine.

It can't work both ways just cause it's convenient for you.

AstôlfoMar 29, 20164 votes

Uh, no. Everything within the game belongs to Riot. The account you use belongs to Riot. As do the skins. As do the champions. As does everything else.

Not sure what you're rambling on like an idiot about.

Spaceman5pffMar 29, 20163 votes

If you play on this patch, you have singed a contract saying that you acknowledge that even though you may exchange currency for access to riot property such as skins, they are not in your possession.

You are literally arguing against things that you SIGNED A CONTRACT AGREEING WITH.

NOTE: games on steam / origin work the same way. You do not own the games, but rather have purchased access to them.

3PowerMar 29, 20161 votes

If there was a way to legally play the game without signing the contract, I would.

AstôlfoMar 30, 20161 votes

It doesn't work like that kiddo.

3PowerMar 30, 20161 votes

Noooooooo?

REALLY?

O M G

Gef the8thWonderMar 30, 20163 votes

Nobody reads the EULA. You can hide a contract selling your soul to Hell in those things, and people will just click anyways.

Urgonnalearn2dayMar 29, 20161 votes

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Look, either riot should refund cash after banning, or punishments should never escalate to a ban in the first place. You honestly see nothing screwed up about a company taking your money and then going "K, goodbye forever!" ?

Or they just alow you to play custom games only.

PePsiLemoNNMar 30, 20161 votes

There is nothing that you can only purchase with RP and gives you an advantage in the game. And you choose if you spend money on the game or not

AstôlfoMar 30, 20161 votes

b-b-but skinz get winz, amirite? :D

Just ShimakazeMar 30, 20161 votes

Well, that's debatable.

Like skins that give you very small buffs (kinda like how iBlitz is banned in pro play for that)

Reaper ReviewMar 29, 20162 votes

So you're saying that in the case of a banned account, Riot stole it then? How can they steal what's technically their property?

You're purchasing the right to access content provided by Riot Games, and they have the right to withdraw it should you not follow the established rules. This is the point of that agreement you click on every time the game client updates.

3PowerMar 29, 20162 votes

I'm gonna assume you intended to respond to me.

Just because it's in the agreement does not mean it's an ethical business practice.

What if it said in there that you forfeit anything you purchased if it turns out you're gay? Hmm?

AstôlfoMar 29, 20161 votes

Then I wouldn't agree with it, nor would most others. However, unless it's actually against federal law for discrimination or something (haven't checked), they're free to do that. And if you signed up, you're still not allowed to complain because you yourself agreed to the terms.

3PowerMar 29, 20162 votes

Then I wouldn't agree with it, nor would most others.

No way. See, that's the human nature riot is capitulating on. "It doesn't affect me, therefore I don't have to worry about it." If riot put in an anti-gay clause, there would still be thousands of people logging in to play each day.

And no, you're absolutely allowed to complain. Agreeing to be bound by terms does not prelude agreeing the terms are fair.

AstôlfoMar 29, 20161 votes

As long as the terms follow the legal standards of whatever country they are acting within, it is irrelevant whether or not you personally agree with them or think they are fair. If you agree to the said Terms through whatever means (such as the "I agree" button or whatever), then that means you fully accept and oblige to the listed Terms. You lose any right to complain, because you yourself legally agreed to the Terms they laid out. And those Terms are not against the law, so there is nothing to complain about there either.

"If riot put in an anti-gay clause, there would still be thousands of people logging in to play each day." Yeah, and they agreed to said clause when they agreed to keep playing on whatever new patch Riot added the clause into, even if they didn't read the clause at all. Why? Because they pressed the button which signifies that they agree to the Terms.

Sorry, I should rephrase my words. You're allowed to complain. You're allowed to do whatever you want. It's not going to get anywhere though, nor should it.

Your argument is irrelevant trash.

3PowerMar 29, 20162 votes

You're relying on "because it's in the rules" to win your arguments for you. It doesn't. It just makes you look like a tool.

Spaceman5pffMar 29, 20162 votes

Every time there is a patch, you sign on and say "yep, I agree to all of the rules and concepts layed out before me"

Friend, YOU look like a tool.

3PowerMar 29, 20161 votes

Again, you agree to be bound to the rules, not that the rules are fair.

entitledplayerMar 29, 20162 votes

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Again, you agree to be bound to the rules, not that the rules are fair.

You clearly are still mistaken.

The people who define the rules of the social contract and all the privileges that come with it are those who make the rules and those who agree to them by the sovereign/governed relationship.

If you don't read the Terms of Use, or the End-User License Agreement, digitally agree to the terms by clicking I accept to each one, you have already signed away your rights and no longer have room to complain, unless you choose to take Riot Games to an appealate court for a wrongful licensing case for fraud.

Know why I say that?

Because both of these are LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACTS, using your digital signature as the required input for the program to initialize and execute the League client from the launcher -- if you sign it, you must then appeal to a court judge with a hearing to dicuss the legality -- and I promise you, Riot will win because of basic virtue of you already agreeing to the digital documentation.

If you don't, you don't play because it doesn't trigger the client load. Because they'd be legally responsible for not making you sign it before playing it, as it's their bylaws and client for a freeware software they developed and distribute -- and there's a multitude of bylaws they must follow and adhere to if they want to keep profits and remain profitable.

I already detailed this in full with my reply to Reaper's comment. You should go read it, because it's very simple and binary.

You've been lost the argument and point of contention by no contest to refute what is a basic legally binding clause:

"Break our rules that you agreed to, get punished and banned because you don't' follow the rules you're physically aware of."

Why are you so hard-pressed to try and basically ignore the sovereign rules that you agreed to by playing the game and posting to the boards?

If you're against it, stop playing/posting.

3PowerMar 29, 20161 votes

This entire post, which I skimmed, can be summed up as the "don't like it, leave" fallacy, and thus will be summarily ignored.

Hope you didn't waste too much time typing it up, cause I spent less than 30 seconds writing this.

entitledplayerMar 29, 20162 votes

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This entire post, which I skimmed, can be summed up as the "don't like it, leave" fallacy, and thus will be summarily ignored.

Hope you didn't waste too much time typing it up, cause I spent less than 30 seconds writing this.

This is how business subclauses work. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave until you actually leave, or make an campaign to do something about it.

Thus, by your own admission to check out of the debate-war you created, you admit your foundation has nothing to stand on.

Also, it's not a fallacy. It's legal and binding terms. Go read them, you'd understand that.

You're being facetious because you don't like how more than 4 people are pounding you over the head with evidence to make you understand your entire basis of argumentation is false, has been false, and the logic you approach with is legally insubstantial.

In other words,

item 3070 ya saaaaaaaalllllllllllllty.

http://gph.to/22Zu8Lw

entitledplayerMar 29, 20162 votes

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This is how business subclauses work. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave until you actually leave, or make an campaign to do something about it.

Thus, by your own admission to check out of the debate-war you created, you admit your foundation has nothing to stand on.

Also, it's not a fallacy. It's legal and binding terms. Go read them, you'd understand that.

You're being facetious because you don't like how more than 4 people are pounding you over the head with evidence to make you understand your entire basis of argumentation is false, has been false, and the logic you approach with is legally insubstantial.

In other words,

ya saaaaaaaalllllllllllllty.

http://gph.to/22Zu8Lw

Also, in preparation of you not replying, here's the link to the social contract thoery, which is the structure applied to any and all members of civilized society.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/soc-cont/

TL;DR:

Learn something about the things you're playing and signing before being diehard to believe you're entitled to something that's a privilege.

3PowerMar 30, 20161 votes

TLDR

entitledplayerMar 30, 20162 votes

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TLDR

So, still salty basically.

entitledplayerMar 30, 20162 votes

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Still? I'm sorry, was that in reference to something you wrote? I wouldn't know.

Someone needs to use discussion view. Chrono doesn't help in a topic like this.

Just ShimakazeMar 30, 20161 votes

If the rules weren't fair you would agree to them and you would come on the boards and complain. Because all of the rules riot expects us to follow are fair and make sense, everybody agrees.

The second you click I agree in the client, you must follow those rules whether you think they are fair or not. That's why the button says 'I agree' not 'I think these are fair'. There's a decline button if you don't think something is fair.