i mean , riot bans toxic people but they have people working for riot that are beyond toxic . isn't this a paradox?
Lauchmelder15 votesSanjuro showed his human side. It's completely logical that things like this will happen.
Riot has to take actions regardless of it being a mistake by Sanjuro and I do think he knows that himself.
Teemo Did 9118 votesi am a human as well , but i never hoped someone die from cancer lol
Lauchmelder4 votesWith that I meant that Sanjuro snapped. It's completely human to have this happen to you if you had 'too much of someone's bullshit'.
While I do think that Tyler1 showed some good improvements in his behavior I don't think he should be unbanned. Multiple banned accounts (20+) is enough.
So what I'm trying to say here is that while Tyler1 'deserves' the hate he gets more than most of the permabanned players I think that Sanjuro took it a step too far with what he said. If Riot doesn't take actions against him it would be one of their biggest mistakes to date. Wether it's a demotion, a behavioral talk with Tryndamere or straight up firing is not up to anyone of us players and we shouldn't ask for it.
Riot will do what they think seems fit.
Xidphel3 votesWith that I meant that Sanjuro snapped. It's completely human
Punching you for being annoying is also a human reaction. Not ok.
Not speaking that way even snapped is also a human reaction. Ok.
Simply because it's natural, doesn't make it ok.
Lauchmelder1 votesWhich is exactly what I said if you would have read beyond that sentence.
It's a reaction you can and should expect at some point, doesn't make it right.
Melledoneus5 votesI think the idea is not that he's showing his literal human side, but his flaws as a human being. The saying "I'm only human" comes into mind here.
I do not condone at all what he has said, but I'm pretty damn sure he doesn't actually want that to happen. People get angry and fed up and say some pretty horrible things. I've done it before (albeit, not in-game or in chat), and I regret it almost instantly.
It's just a matter of having enough self-control to stop yourself from saying horrible things publicly when your "human side" shows.
HalcyonDweller1 votesIs it possible that somebody was impersonating him in the discord chat? Or is that too unlikely?
I don't have all the context, but it seems plausible to me.
Darkeus1 votesIs it possible that somebody was impersonating him in the discord chat? Or is that too unlikely?
I don't have all the context, but it seems plausible to me.
Nah, he has admitted it was him.
HalcyonDweller1 votesHmm, alright then. Can you link me to that?
Darkeus1 votesHmm, alright then. Can you link me to that?
Why yes I can!
HalcyonDweller3 votesThanks!
Umm, wow he really crossed a line there.
That said, I feel like this is relevant:
EL HAMSTERO1 votesits true but its a bit hypocritical that anyone 'showing their human side' can be banned from the game forever for typing something like this.
Melledoneus2 votesIt's not hypocritical if Riot doesn't condone it.
Until Riot comes out and says, "yeah, he's just having a bad day, we totally forgive him" then the word 'hypocritical' does not apply. So please stop saying it's hypocritical if one person does it. He does not align with Riot's ideals with what he did and Riot will fix that. Why make such a big deal out of it when literally nothing hypocritical has been done?
EL HAMSTERO1 voteswell there is no delay or meetings about it if someone says that in game. they are banned as soon as the game ends. so id say it is a bit hypocritical when he can say that and is not punished already.
Blades in Exile1 votesPretty sure they would only be banned after having a few breaches of the Summoner's code, and while I'm not sure I saw everything that happened, only what was posted on the boards, I'm pretty sure what he said would not warrant an instant ban from first offence if we're comparing this to what happens to someone who said something like this in a game.
EL HAMSTERO1 votessaying you are looking forward to someone dying from cancer is acceptable? this is news to me!
Blades in Exile1 votesI'm not saying that its acceptable, you compared how the situation would be resolved if someone were to say what the rioter said in a game and I wanted to explain how I don't believe Riot is handling it wrong. Saying that you hope someone dies to cancer is completely wrong but death threats, or telling someone to kill them selves isn't exactly uncommon in the LoL community and if someone said that in game it wouldn't be an instant ban like you said unless the person already had 2 strikes on them.
Telephone Booth1 votes[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nOgQpyUe,comment-id=0001000000010002,timestamp=2017-10-02T21:02:59.160+0000)
its true but its a bit hypocritical that anyone 'showing their human side' can be banned from the game forever for typing something like this.
Riot won't ban you from their game for saying something on reddit. Seperate the two. This wasn't in game. Riot isn't a social justice group. They just don't want flaming and toxicity to ruin people's experience in game. They don't tell you how to live your life and to be nice to everyone. They say don't flame in their game. Please please recognize the difference.
EL HAMSTERO3 votesyou think its better somehow because its outside a game? its worse. in the game you are in the heat of competition. this guy is not enraged because tyler1 is running it down mid in his game and says something that he doesnt mean. he just is saying something without emotion that he really means. he hopes tyler1 dies of cancer.
sure they wont ban you for something you say on reddit but this is different. this guy represents their company. again its worse.
Telephone Booth2 votes[{quoted}](name=EL HAMSTERO,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nOgQpyUe,comment-id=000100000001000200010000,timestamp=2017-10-03T04:37:40.268+0000)
you think its better somehow because its outside a game? its worse. in the game you are in the heat of competition. this guy is not enraged because tyler1 is running it down mid in his game and says something that he doesnt mean. he just is saying something without emotion that he really means. he hopes tyler1 dies of cancer.
sure they wont ban you for something you say on reddit but this is different. this guy represents their company. again its worse.
You make good points but I think it's better because it's not hypocritical. I understand that I'm in the minority here, but I respect a company that will talk like that. He's being real. Hes saying fuck that guy, he can die for all we care. Love it. Good to see a company that doesn't pander to PC bullshit. However, he's getting fired for it I hear? So yeah, respect gone. Come on Rito. Let him talk like that. Stop being pussies.
Squidwards House10 votesi mean we had enough threads about this... i think saying tyler is a fucking ahole would be totally fine. saying that "we'll be gucci" when he is dead is not fine at all.
and i assume sanjuro will get fired. i do feel a bit bad for him i mean he is losing his job, still his behavior wasnt right at all.
tyler on the other hand who i used to being floded with toxicty in his stream will laugh his ass off and is 100% fine.
Teemo Did 9111 votesi think tyler didn't reacted at all ... because he waits to get unbanned by riot soon. if he wasn't banned , it would be a lot of drama
Mig892 votesYeah, the riot dude will get fired more likely than not for saying we would be better off if he was dead but its not gonna change Tylers ban status. I hope he stays banned
Mizuki Zahra2 votestyler reacted immediately he made a tweet post about how shit happens and he doesnt care
Scuttle10 votesI really don't care. But I also don't care about Tyler1. He's just annoying to me. Nothing against people who watch him; it's just not for me.
As for the employee, he should just get whatever punishment is in Riot's handbook. Usually they have a policy on these sorts of things.
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DuskDaUmbreon8 votesDid you seriously just compare a guy getting pissed at one of the biggest assholes in League to a motherfucking %%%%phile in an orphanage!?!?
#SERIOUSLY!?
This is beyond apples and oranges. This is apples to nukes. They're completely and utterly unrelated! I might as well blame my ADC for dying because someone in Asia missed a shot in CoD.
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Slythion1 votesmannn I wish you had quoted him before he deleted his comment. I want to read what he said lol
BlueThingamajig6 votesIt's completely improper, and indeed hypocritical if no punishment comes. Riot Sanjuro should make a public apology on the boards (also reddit), without trying to justify anything, and at the very least I think there should be some kind of suspension. I argue that 2 weeks without pay would be an appropriate punishment.
The last time I can remember anything as remotely high profile as this was Riot Nasus, whom iirc got fired for banning someone's account after an in-game argument.
Scuttle3 votesHe already made an apology on Reddit. Whether it was copy pasted from a PR rep is another story.
Teemo Did 9112 voteshe didn't aplogised @scuttle he said "its my opinion" that's not an apology
Scuttle4 votesPlease explain how this is not considered an apology. He does not say "it's my opinion."
Mig893 votesIm pretty sure Riot gave their employee a chat ban lmfao. The situation isnt funny but that was the firs tthng i thought of when seeing hes taking a break from reddit, discord, and in game chat lol
BlueThingamajig3 votesIt was almost certainly run through a PR person before being published. If nothing else, to make sure that the apology doesn't fuck things up and make the situation worse.
DariusDemiurge6 votesThis event is blown out of proportion, a side effect of the era we live in. Way to many people are snowflakes or just looking for some internet fame via getting the easily offended and stupid riled up.
So many claimed he wished death on Tyler1, when he simply stated Tyler1 will likely make poor life choices. Significant difference there but hey it don't fit their witch hunting.
This is likely just going to make rioters socialize less with the community outside of official game/events posting since people just look for stuff they say to snitch or take out of context. Sad world we live in.
Splitgrips2 votesi dont understand why people even mention getting the guy fired. breaks down the 4th wall a bit.
This is standard low elo BS. The guy is a Bronze / Silver player and cant control himself or refuses to learn. Which is why he is low elo
If riot wanted to make a statement they could mess with his account.
I think that the whole reporting people for hurting feelings is dumb, but if this guy is all about reporting 'GGEZ' saying players, game on. He now has to face the Reddit hammer. seems its kinda scary for some people.
GGEZ Riot employee.
Random thought... if i worked for Riot ... that would be my tag name.
Riot Employee
Mizuki Zahra2 votesif you walked into a company and did your business then left and an employee went on social media and said bad things about you specifically, and taged you in it, do you think you would react with rage or how ty1 reacted?
ty1 said shit happens and shrugged it off
Sarutobi4 votesI mean he crossed the line, and i have no doubt the higher ups when notified will have this person fired. He expressed his opinion about someone in a rude manner that is not tolerated by Riot.
TrulyBland3 votesi mean , riot bans toxic people but they have people working for riot that are beyond toxic . isn't this a paradox?
Not really. At best it's hypocritical. But to be honest everybody is... which weirdly enough makes it hypocritical to point out hypocrisy in others. Either way, as long as Riot does not condone his actions, it's really juts hypocritical of this one particular employee, not for Riot as a whole. At the end of the day if Riot says they are handling the issue internally then that's that. Riot has always reacted adequately when there was trouble with one of their employees; at least in the cases I know about.
HalcyonDweller2 votesI think he crossed a very bad line, but I also believe this is relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAIP6fI0NAI
The experience he is having now is far out of proportion from the punishment warranted. Witch hunts are an ugly ugly thing.
Xidphel1 votesThis just in: I Main Teemo 420 has been seen punching a baby. I know we have no evidence but it totally happened.
Teemo Did 9114 voteswhat are you talking about? it's all over reddit brother [slayer-jinx-catface]
rework trundle1 votesJust leave Sanjuro alone, we're talking about Tyler1, the guy that has 22 accounts perma banned.
Teemo Did 9112 votescough cough 11 accounts because he is banned on sight ..
plus what's the point ? having accounts perm banned means people can talk like this against someone? what kind of logic is that?
UnboundHades2 votes22+ before the indefinite ban if you count the indefinite its over 30
Xidphel4 votesHow does that excuse Sanjuro?
skyfall6191 voteswell to stary off yea T1 has alot of banned accounts. most of the bans are not from bad behavior its from playing the game while perma banned. in most cases if you get perma banned its the account now in T1 case its not the account its him personally being perma banned. so when he goes to work (streams league) he gets banned. this situation just proves that people at riot are holding personal grudges on the guy. imo your personal feeling should be separate from businessmen but i guess rito does things diffrent. hope that cleared up somethings.
UnboundHades4 votesYOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP SAYING THAT A MAJORITY OF HIS BANS ARE DUE TO INDEFINITE he got 22+ bans then got the indefinite and hes sitting around 30+ with some of those after indefinite being toxic as well stop trying to spread misinformation