I've noticed a certain superiority and toxic personality around higher honor ranks.

WardBaronFFS·Jan 8, 2018·1 votes·502 views

Most games the people with high honor are toxic and it confuses me.Last game a syndra and a fiora dou queue both honor level 5 both toxicly flamed me all game long for going zoe support.I admited in chat I wasnt doing best and ill try better next time.They kept wailing on me flaming me and being jerks to me the whole game.I had a ezreal adc who hasnt played league in a year and I was like "Ezreal next time go klepto btw its super op rn" and they took it as flaming and started this whole thing up again with constant verbal abuse. The reason im saying this is why??? Why do people with high honor levels act so much better I mean im honor level 1 myself getting a punishment after a similiar case where I was getting flamed for going an out of meta pick (something i do way too often being honest but the meta is 30 champs so I mean...) Has anyone else seen this?

6 Comments

The Cream ReaperJan 8, 20182 votes

it's an ego thing

AraMoOseJan 8, 20181 votes

It's a combination of 2 factors.

The subjective assessment of behaviors (i.e. What I'm doing is ok, the real toxicity is what others do).
Confirmation bias. Anytime you see someone with a high honor level being a jerk, you use that as a confirmation of your (incorrect) assertion.

The reason there are people having higher honors is twofold.

They get honored more often.
They haven't lost their honor (by receiving a punishment).

Your assertion is in fact the opposite of reality. If these people were MORE toxic, they would get reported MORE often and would lose their honor more than the toxic players.

HavokDashJan 8, 20182 votes

If these people were MORE toxic, they would get reported MORE often and would lose their honor more than the toxic players.

Actually no. Alot of these players may have a higher skill, but the problem is that alot of the community gives players a "pass" for thier bad behavior as long as they are skilled in game.

You could have a player who does good but is a complete toxic asshat, and if someone comments on the toxicity, the general response is "stfu, he carried your ass. ur just mad cuz bad" or some sort of variation. And then everyone Honors the toxic player. and the cycle continues. So no, as Long as they have skills to win, they get a free pass from the community to be as toxic and hateful as they want, as long as they can "solo carry" and the community is made that much worse.

AraMoOseJan 9, 20182 votes

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Actually no. Alot of these players may have a higher skill, but the problem is that alot of the community gives players a "pass" for thier bad behavior as long as they are skilled in game.

You could have a player who does good but is a complete toxic asshat, and if someone comments on the toxicity, the general response is "stfu, he carried your ass. ur just mad cuz bad" or some sort of variation. And then everyone Honors the toxic player. and the cycle continues. So no, as Long as they have skills to win, they get a free pass from the community to be as toxic and hateful as they want, as long as they can "solo carry" and the community is made that much worse.

I agree this does happen. Sometimes people get honored even though they were jerks because they carried.

I think you're likely overestimating how often it occurs but even if you're not. Jerks who carry are less likely to be honored than friendly people who carry. They are also more likely to be punished than friendly people who carry. So we're in the same place as before. Friendly people are more likely to have high honor than jerks. Whether or not they carried is a seperate variable.

WardBaronFFSJan 9, 20181 votes

Not entirely true if someone were to honor anyone it would be a premade, if someone carries they are 100% more likely to get honored and even better when they arent friendly...I've carried before (as most people have) I gave my kills to my team and I was a team player saying gj and nice one and so forth and get no honors and I would ask why they would say you talk too much or you were trying to suck my dick for honors all game....