low skill players are the cauise of 95% of the toxicity in every single game
since you cant fix the matchmaking and keep putting me on teams with 4 teammates that can't get a 0.25kda in any game whatsoever. you need to start banning them. i'm the one being punished because i dont fucking deal with feeding assholes who ruin my life one hour at a time and it's not fucking fair
AeroWaffle9 votes"Low skill" is relative to the skill of the other players in the match. If you want to be sure of your teammate's skill level, form a premade group. If you don't have enough friends to do so, suck it up.
Losing or being bad at the game is not against the rules nor will it ever be.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votes"Low skill" is relative to the skill of the other players in the match. If you want to be sure of your teammate's skill level, form a premade group. If you don't have enough friends to do so, suck it up.
Losing or being bad at the game is not against the rules nor will it ever be.
it needs to be. it causes more toxicity than anything else in this game
AeroWaffle9 votesThis is a zero compromise topic.
Being bad at the game is never going to be ban-able. Never. No, it doesn't need to be. It needs to not be. Banning players for being bad at a game is a great way to quickly kill the player-base and subsequently, the game.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesyou're wrong simple as that we have 80% of the playerbase in the lowest elo which means theres a HUGE differential within the players in each game. i hate being the best in the game every single game yet still lose because my teammates are more potato than my enemies
anyone who can't maintain a 3kda in ranked needs to be banned from ranked until the following season
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:03:52.670+0000)
you're wrong simple as that we have 80% of the playerbase in the lowest elo which means theres a HUGE differential within the players in each game. i hate being the best in the game every single game yet still lose because my teammates are more potato than my enemies
anyone who can't maintain a 3kda in ranked needs to be banned from ranked until the following season
Unless you play very little amount of league, otherwise good players tend to climb out of Silver and push someone else down eventually. G5 people are only as good as S3-4 most of the time anyway (applies to the 5s of every league).
Teammates can only drag you (and boost you) so much, assuming no nonsense like intentional feeders, beyond that, it's obviously you.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesfalse. I will cite this thread for every comment you try to lie to me about from this point forward https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard
archerno11 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:19:26.189+0000)
false. I will cite this thread for every comment you try to lie to me about from this point forward https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard
I dont need that. I personally got 4 accounts of mine out of silver. 2 to plat and 2 to gold. Easily. And i could do it over and over. With any champion.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesyour placement mmr was over silver mmr then, because nobody can do this except the most elite players
as i said faker couldnt win most my games.
and again i cite this thread where a diamond player had trouble climbing
archerno12 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:25:19.166+0000)
your placement mmr was over silver mmr then, because nobody can do this except the most elite players
as i said faker couldnt win most my games.
and again i cite this thread where a diamond player had trouble climbing
My main was placed in silver 3 after 4:6 placements. Climbed out to plat with just experience from DOTA 1. Made another account, bought championship Kalista(never plAyed her before). Got in silver 2. Solo carried even 3v5 games to gold. Made acc on EUW bought Project Ashe climbed to gold from silver 3. He said it was hard, not impossible
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesno you didn't you lying about random bullshit doesnt make your point any stronger
DIAMONDS can't climb out of silver
Ozuraak3 votesIf DIAMONDS can´t climb out of silver, where does all the diemaonds that are playing right now, come from?
Why is there an diamond division at all, when (acording to you) nobody even can climb out of silver?
archerno11 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:33:40.795+0000)
no you didn't you lying about random bullshit doesnt make your point any stronger
DIAMONDS can't climb out of silver
https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=deristeno1
Friend of mine. Hardstuck silver for last 2 seasons. Started Bronze 2 this season. Now he is gold
SEKAI2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:25:19.166+0000)
your placement mmr was over silver mmr then, because nobody can do this except the most elite players
as i said faker couldnt win most my games.
and again i cite this thread where a diamond player had trouble climbing
That's what we call a "culture shock". The "hardness" is from the fact high elo and low elo play fundamentally different, not because high elo players actually struggle skill-wise in low elos.
But you, are not from Diamond where games are being played differently. You shouldn't be affected by this 'shock'.
Ozuraak6 votes"being the best in the game every single game"
Check up your match history:
3/5/10, 1/4/3, 5/12/10, 2/9/16, 1/5/8, 3/7/5, 3/10/16, 1/4/1, 0/3/4, 0/6/7, ...
I can cleary see, how your teammates hold you back [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesthe RARE games where i do bad, my team does even worse
you pulled like 7 games out of a possible 100 game history
diamonds can't climb out of silver easily because the system is broken
Ozuraak3 votesIf diamonds can´t climb out of silver, why are there diamond players at all? When i stick to your logic, there shouldn´t be other divisions then bronze and silver anyway.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesciting this article again. diamonds have problems climbing out of silver? what luck do plat players have then
Ozuraak2 votesYeah one article is the ultimative truth. Diamonds can´t climt out of silver.
The fact, that there are thousands of acutal diamonds right now, is of course no proof.
AeroWaffle4 votesI suppose pointing out that you're citing a 2 year old post, when the metric for calculating MMR has likely changed greatly since then is going to mean nothing to you.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesDIAMONDS have problems climbinb out of silver
what luck will a plat have
AeroWaffle2 voteshttps://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard DIAMONDS have problems climbinb out of silver what luck will a plat have
It's like you didn't even read my post.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesi dont need to because you recycle the same old bullshit that everyone else tries to.
diamonds have problems climbing out of silver
what hopes does a plat player have?
Ozuraak2 voteshttp://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/euw/beatstyler
Friend of mine. Started in silver these season.
How could he do that? According to you, nodoby can climb out of silver.
Ozuraak2 votesCould you stick to one lame excuse at a time please? You said diamonds having problems climb out of silver (whats untrue) and you said what hopes does plat players have. I showed you a case and now its possible to climb out of silver?
So the case is closed. YOU are to bad to climb out of silvers. Others aren´t.
AeroWaffle2 votesYou're failing to understand my point.
Getting teammates that are far lower skill level than your opponents is not a reason to ban them, it's a symptom of the MMR system messing up.
You are basing your entire argument on a post made two years ago where a single diamond player was getting inconsistent player skill levels. Aka, an MMR problem.
AeroWaffle2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=00020000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:45:56.666+0000)
a multimillion dollar game shouldnt have mmr problems that cause players to have a shitty time playing.
I think you're underestimating how many things contribute to a victory in League. This isn't a 1v1 like Starcraft. This is a 5v5 where even two teammate's personality compatibility can be the deciding factor. Player A and Player B might both play like shit despite both players being good if both of them are trying to take the helm when it comes to shot-calling.
Heck, even opponent's playstyle could be a deciding factor. That oponent may not be as good as you normally, but if they're much more experienced playing against your specific playstyle, they'll likely wipe the floor with you.
Then all of this is compounded by it being a 5 person team. Four people could play like shit, but because that one Katerina knew how to capitalize on her lead and carry the team on her back, the 4 players that shouldn't have won will still get a victory.
Sidney Crosby1 voteswhat luck will a plat have
im a plat and i got my old bronze 3 account to gold in less than a week, stop making excuses
AlienPrimate1 votesMeanwhile, I climbed out of silver playing only support in about 40 games. It isn't that hard to do. If you can't climb then you are where you need to be. Also, I've never been higher than gold so saying that diamonds can't climb out of silver is total bs.
Starcraft243ver4 votesCan we start with you ?
Silver 4 looks pretty low skill to me.
Jo0o4 votesJust to save folks the op.gg lookup:
Silver 4, 45% winrate. Bronze 3, 48% in Flex.
Zezockary3 votesIf you don't like that you have to be a decent human being to play this game you can always play a different game. I would strongly suggest a single player one.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesi am a decent human being. my teammates are not, and this bullshit matchmaking is not. it needs to prioritize you based on how you do in each game, rather than whether or not you can carry your shitstain 0/35 team
Dylominater3 votesPlay nasus. Win 80% of games, even if your team is doing awful.
archerno13 votesLook, its simple. All you need to do to climb is to have positive winrate. And only way to do that is to be consistently good and to be positive towards your teammates no matter how bad they do. If u are one of those players who keep teammates tilted by telling them to "stop feeding," or calling them trolls you will never climb
sma11 cat3 votesIf you really had the skill of a diamond player, you could 1v9 silver even gold games. I had a flatmate who was stuck in silver. Guess what happened when he stopped blaming his losses on teammates and let his ego deflate a little? He climbed to plat.
xAsumate v23 votesLOW SKILL
MEANWHILE Silver 4 HELLO?
AMYS GRAVE3 votesHave you took a moment to consider that maybe its you?
OceanicEyes2 votesI'm not seeing anyone in your recent games with "0.25 kda", besides some scores like 0/2/0, but in that game you had the same kda with a score of 0/1/0. And from reading this post, it's looking like players with your attitude would be the cause of the majority of this game's toxicity.
Ramy Fleshlight1 voteshere you go [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Nq0ZnTR.png[/IMG]
SEKAI2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-06-01T08:52:45.713+0000)
here you go [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Nq0ZnTR.png[/IMG]
Maybe consider they are intentional feeders with abysmal scores like these. You kinda have to try to get those kinds of kda. I mean that Jax in particular (it's also not hard to suspect a team-flipout in this scenario rather than simply being bad, considering the 2 smites and Ryze jungle. If so, that's completely unrelated to this thread's topic).
Though I'm kinda iffy with that pic's legitimacy, a little bit, since no one has seen that when they're going through your match history. But whatever.
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesits almost every game i play. riot worries more about banning people that say mean things than they do banning horrible players
SEKAI3 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:05:14.722+0000)
its almost every game i play. riot worries more about banning people that say mean things than they do banning horrible players
Intentional feeding is wrong, and the ban is usually a matter of when. Feeding itself is not bannable. There is a distinction.
You can't ban people from playing because they are not good at the game. That's just absurd. No one has all the time to play this game, no one EVER starts out by being great at the game, and not everyone can have the same game-intuitive to grow as they may just naturally suck at this game (they may be great at quantum physics instead who knows) but still way to play which they should be allowed to.
Don't pretend that you're the sole carry-er in your matches, and that you're so so so dragged by your baddie teammates or whatever, obviously you are also carried from time to time and getting free wins. But I don't see you complaining about the wins you don't deserve?
Ramy Fleshlight1 votesnot in my ranked games
not unless riot fixes my mmr to match my skill level. then they can play all they want in that fucking sesspool but since my mmr is fucked up and i get stuck with int feeders, low-skill feeders and just all around bad players, this game is impossible to win on. this is fact faker couldnt win most of these games ive played
archerno12 votes[{quoted}](name=Ramy Fleshlight,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ml4BAniI,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:15:26.005+0000)
not in my ranked games
not unless riot fixes my mmr to match my skill level. then they can play all they want in that fucking sesspool but since my mmr is fucked up and i get stuck with int feeders, low-skill feeders and just all around bad players, this game is impossible to win on. this is fact faker couldnt win most of these games ive played
Matchmaking is fine. Your opponents are equal skill level aa your teammates. But what u refuse to accept is that you are of same skill level too.
Wiredoncoffee2 votesOr do you mean the intentional trolls? Like my jungler yesterday who came bot lane 3 mins in and stayed bot. Didn't leave lane, and then started being toxic after i left the lane to wander because we were already behind from splitting exp 3 ways instead of 2. I muted this buffoon, and reported him after the game. And of course Riot did NOTHING about it. Or when i was playing adc, and my support was pushing my lanes, causing me to miss all my farm. Which is NOT supports job. Saying he was intentionally going to take the adcs farm and follow me around everywhere I went. I reported this idiot as well, And nothing happened. I would rather play with low skill players, than troll morons who wreck the fun of the game for others. Please, Riot, for the love of GOD do something about this. I am getting tired of reporting these idiots and nothing happening.
Tract2 votesI legitimately cannot tell if this is actually a bad satire? Are you truly suggesting that Riot bans every single new player because they can't match experienced players yet? How DARE they play the most played game in the world, how DARE they just start now and not be particularly skilled yet.
Angrychickén2 votesSo.......Ban low skill players, because you think they're toxic.
If they are toxic, they will get banned.
If they aren't, they aren't toxic.
This Is Your Dad2 votesThink about it. If they ban the lowest skilled player only master and challenger would be left. Where's the money in that?
