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Feeding and then blocking surrender vote should not be possible

Ayanami3rd··1 votes·452 views

Players with feeding KDA should not be allowed to participate in surrender votes. Today I had multiple games with feeders where they hold me hostage in their shit. Seriously, what are they thinking?

Imagine you played a board game with four of your friends, and three of them said, "Okay, you win, we surrender", but you forced them to continue to play? Sounds ridiculous? Well, in League, that's normal.

I totally have enough of this unsportsmanlike crap. And don't tell me anything about comeback chances. I'm talking about normals. If you feed, that happens, okay. But don't force the game on others if there is nothing at stake anyways. Snowball meta does its work, too. I kindly advise these people to reconsider their choice of playing any co-op game as well as review their social skills.

It's hard enough to grind for good teams in this snowbally coinflip meta. This is just too much.

12 Comments

Alpha God Yiizus3 votes

I've had games where I was 0-8 then came back and won the game for my team. Never surrender in ranked, there is always a way if you push yourself beyond your limits. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Ayanami3rd1 votes

I can understand that you wouldn't surrender a ranked game. But I strictly play normals. :)

Alpha God Yiizus1 votes

{quoted}

I can understand that you wouldn't surrender a ranked game. But I strictly play normals. :)

Ok I respect that. Yeah it is quite annoying in norms I agree with you on that. Sometimes it gets annoying in ranked to, I won't deny that lol. I dislike the fact that for early surrender you need 5 votes, and I feel like for regular surrender you should have 3 votes instead or 4, Majority rules.

Chermorg2 votes

Your score does not make you any less of a team member. The surrender vote only requires 4/5 team members to want to surrender - if it's only 3/2 it's too close to 50/50 for there to be a justification for the three people to get to force the 2 others to quit the game.

When you click queue and accept it, you're signing up to play a game until the nexus falls, no matter what happens. Unless the supermajority (majority + 1) of the team wants to end it early, you have no right to expect them to do so, as you signed up to play a full game.

Ayanami3rd1 votes

Theoretically, you are right. Still, there is a difference between what is technically allowed and what is healthy social behaviour.

Also, I want to make clear that it's not about the score itself, the "feeding score" is just a result of these players turning the game in a way that is almost to absolutely unrecoverable. And again, I do not blame them for doing so. Hell, everyone has a bad game sometimes. But if you are already a burden to the team (Jesus, that sounds so toxic, I hope you understand that I mean that in a neutral way), you should be decent enough to respect the other players' wish to end the game, because they do not enjoy playing anymore. It would really be a nice move to say "okay, I screwed up, you don't enjoy the game because of my feed, let's just end it". The opposite is really _not _a nice move.

And that's the point. I am not saying that I didn't sign up for a full game, and I know that I have no choice but to sit through it. But I wish feeders would just be deliberately kind enough to click yes on a surrender vote if three players already want to ditch the game.

I hope I could clear up my opinion a bit. :)

Telephone Booth2 votes

I hear you, it's super annoying. Happened to me last night as an alkali and rengar went around one shotting our team. 3 people wanted to keep going. We lost with like no chance at all after 40 minutes of sitting in base killing super minions and watching them get dragon after dragon and baron and elder.

But to make a rule like this is just ridiculous in my opinion. It's too ...elitist? I don't know. It's just a selfish idea that you want. KDA is not nearly as important as many think. You can feed and get objectives. You would have to have ridiculous stipulations. Like if you have 11 deaths at 15 minutes with no kills, no tower kills, and less than 2 assists. Lol I know, those are pretty arbitrary numbers, but it would have to be something extreme like that. Even then, I personally don't think it's necessary.

Ayanami3rd1 votes

It's tough, yeah. But complaining without giving a possible idea to solve the problem is not my thing. :) Of course, I'm open to suggestions.

Telephone Booth1 votes

{quoted}

It's tough, yeah. But complaining without giving a possible idea to solve the problem is not my thing. :) Of course, I'm open to suggestions.

Thing is, I don't see it as a problem beyond some people just being bad at the game. Can't really fix that. We already have a surrender, if enough people don't want to surrender, you just gotta play the match, unfortunately. Nothing personal, i just dont agree with the idea.

zPOOPz1 votes

You don't want people to dictate your surrendering ability, yet you want to dictate theirs?

Jo0o1 votes

I don't buy into the whole "hostage" argument in these kinds of situations, unless the other team is also complicit.

Either you're going to lose quickly anyway, or you've got a decent chance of recovery. If the game looks lost at 15 minutes but takes another 20 minutes to end, then it clearly wasn't lost at 15 minutes.

Ayanami3rd1 votes

I don't care about tiny comeback chances. Why should I torture myself with another 20 mins of getting my ass served, when I could already be playing a new game with even odds? And no, just because the game lasts for 20 more minutes does not mean you can turn it around. That's a myth that has been wandering through the boards a lot, and it's utterly wrong. You will die from poison, no matter if it kills you fast or slowly. Has anyone ever also considered that a bad team does not suddenly learn how to play?

Negativity1 votes

I disagree, and your lack of understanding in the meta certainly isn't helping your cause but norms are full of people trying stuff and it's fair if they want to try to come back from a loss, I play a lot of norms with friends. I assume others to aswell

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