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Type "going for 100 deaths" run directly at the turret without attacking and keep ur account, thx

Lim Dul 95 Swag··60 votes·6,697 views

Not sure why some people are not simply banned. But of course its ranked... so.

People can purchase boots then run straight at the turret and die at the 30 second mark... type into chat "99" respawn, run directly in and die again before his lane foe even arrives... type "98"

You can see where this is going.

I'd say he got to about "89" when I muted him.

But for him to be in ranked he has to have leveled to 30 and unlocked 16 champs. Meaning he is complete;y unconcerned with this type of behavior being punished or resulting in a ban.

And that is the saddest part in all of this.

This is not spontaneous behavior. This is something a person with no fear of repercussion does because they have been taught through previous inaction that there will be zero reprisal.

This combined with all the racism and homophobia that goes unchecked is just too much. Especially considering I have to toil through the game for 20 minutes because if I don't then I am the one punished via leaverbuster. Gonna take a break from this and try something else, at least til next year. The community here is not very encouraging to be around as of late and the leaverbuster mechanic actually assists the griefing. Without it there us nothing keeping you in games like this.

edit: In case u are wondering he finished with 21 deaths before becoming bored.

57 Comments

Samus7222 votes

Did you report them?

LordFluffyJr20 votes

I am sad you have to ask sir.

LordFluffyJr12 votes

I saw this on stream with 20,000 plus players. I watched the streamer quickly hit report, select the boxes, and then enter another que. I checked that guys summoner name later and guess what. He doesn't do it every game. He does it 1 in about 10 games. How does someone in high diamond low master do that this often and not get banned?

EDIT: But it's okay, my friend told someone "Stop feeding, don't fight him. Just farm it out." the dude yelled at my friend and my friend got a message saying he was reported or something.

XinZhao2WinNhao5 votes

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EDIT: But it's okay, my friend told someone "Stop feeding, don't fight him. Just farm it out." the dude yelled at my friend and my friend got a message saying he was reported or something.

Lyte mentioned that the word "report" is most used by toxic players. So toxic players are reporting people.

So that's why you could get reported for saying things like "stop feeding, don't fight him. Just farm it out."

I literally told Nami "can you please heal me?" and she reported me for verbal harassment. Seriously. That's all I said. "Nami, please heal me." 10 months ago and I still remember it. That's how toxic players are using the report function now. If this keeps going on reporting will mean nothing.

qetzel3 votes

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If this keeps going on reporting will mean nothing.

You are right about that. If the Nami kept doing that then their report will mean nothing by now. Riot checks each report for validity. If you report incorrectly, eventually it becomes worthless.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

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You are right about that. If the Nami kept doing that then their report will mean nothing by now. Riot checks each report for validity. If you report incorrectly, eventually it becomes worthless.

Yeah but it still sucks getting the "you have been reported" warning every time someone false reports you.

Don't get me wrong, the warning is great. But only if you actually did something wrong that needs fixing, it tells you so you can fix your behavior before you actually get banned.

But getting that warning after being false reported just makes you unsure when your behavior really needs to change and when it's just a false report. It takes away the purpose of the warning.

Also if too many toxic people false report people the whole function becomes a joke. It's like when the boy cries wolf falsely and the time there really is a wolf people don't believe him. Now take a large portion of the league population crying wolf all the time (false reports are strikingly common, especially among the losing team where they always report the lowest KDA guy for "feeding").

TheDiff2 votes

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Yeah but it still sucks getting the "you have been reported" warning every time someone false reports you.

Don't get me wrong, the warning is great. But only if you actually did something wrong that needs fixing, it tells you so you can fix your behavior before you actually get banned.

But getting that warning after being false reported just makes you unsure when your behavior really needs to change and when it's just a false report. It takes away the purpose of the warning.

Also if too many toxic people false report people the whole function becomes a joke. It's like when the boy cries wolf falsely and the time there really is a wolf people don't believe him. Now take a large portion of the league population crying wolf all the time (false reports are strikingly common, especially among the losing team where they always report the lowest KDA guy for "feeding").

I understand where you are comming from. I had a game where there were obviously toxic players on the enemy team and you hear this in all chat:

Ahri : Please report our Vayne please. She has been verbally abusing us all game

Annie : Yes please, she is just salty that we are losing.

Vayne : WTF?!?!?! THat isn't even true. I'm just telling them to quit going in 4v5's and play safer

Aatrox : Yeah Ahri and annie are trippin

Rammus : Ok.

XinZhao2WinNhao1 votes

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I understand where you are comming from. I had a game where there were obviously toxic players on the enemy team and you hear this in all chat:

Ahri : Please report our Vayne please. She has been verbally abusing us all game

Annie : Yes please, she is just salty that we are losing.

Vayne : WTF?!?!?! THat isn't even true. I'm just telling them to quit going in 4v5's and play safer

Aatrox : Yeah Ahri and annie are trippin

Rammus : Ok.

I was just debating with a guy on another thread who was telling me that saying "play safely, stop going in 4v5" or "please try to help" is considered verbal abuse as you're assuming that the person you're talking to is too stupid to figure it out themselves and therefore you're being condescending and having a negative attitude.

That's what it's come to nowadays... :(

Don't get me wrong, I think that the report system's intention is great, but nowadays it's descended to this level where you have the right to remain silent because anything you say can and will be used against you.

TheDiff1 votes

Really? that is so stupid. How is trying to help your teammates perform better be counted as verbal abuse? Sigh Im just happy that after awhile of them reporting, if it was proven to be a false report, their report will mean legitamately nothing unless others have reported the same person for the same thing. i.e someone afking repeatedly and you happen to report them along with 9+ others

Dov Shadow2 votes

dude you need to get out of riots ass, they dont check shit

Dov Shadow2 votes

one time i got muted and they sent me the chat from me, i said 6 messages the entire game, and the worst thing i said was "why the hell did you do that". COME ON, is riot 4 years old?

Dov Shadow1 votes

happens to me every game, i try as hard as i can to win and i get reported for simple things like that.

Cleonalla1 votes

People are trying to get others to report someone for being new to the game/champ, too. I just recently got level 30 after taking about a 2.5 year break from the game. I was in a normal and pushing a lane when my support left me. No one pinged anything. No one said anything about needing help. Then next thing I know there are members of my team saying, "What the hell is this Twitch doing?" "This Twitch is trash tier." "Report Twitch" in All chat.

Do what? Report? Really? And there is no use trying to talk to these kind of people. I would go in with them on team fights to help and they would all scatter saying "I don't trust this Twitch" leaving me to die. It's so ridiculous. I try not to play with people I don't know anymore, but sometimes if you want to play you don't have much of a choice when friends aren't online. Then I remember why I don't play with unknown people anymore. It's a real shame.

Dov Shadow1 votes

truth is riot doesnt are about players, they ban toxic people and thats it, doesnt matter why they were being toxic. like your situation, i would be very toxic to that player feeding, and if i get reported for that then riot is a horrible company. Thats like getting shot by somebody and getting arrested for retaliating... smh riot

Sythriel Draken5 votes

Riot will not punish a player for one game no matter how severe the damage.

I'm not saying I'm the perfect player, but my only time getting a 10 game chat restriction, that was easily worked off in an hour of bot games in dominion and didn't teach me a damn thing, was because I went on tilt for 3 games because of rampant intentional feeding on my team in ranked. Even if you go 25-3-15 on Elise Jungle pushing objectives, Killing the carries etc, you can't deal with a split pushing Tryn, Rageblade Anything, etc. that fed off your mid or bot lane because there currently IS no way to come back from that.

Riot's system is currently more of a punishment to the Non toxic players than it is for the toxic ones. Someone that's smart with their intentional feeding will do it one game, play normally the next, and then go back to intentional feeding the moment someone pisses them off and riot's system currently does not check patterns in games until multiple BACK TO BACK reports are given. I know this because one game I got pissed off at a teammate, intentionally fed, said it in chat, and nothing happened, not even a warning.

I'm quite sad that riot hasn't caught on or even made the effort to update the reporting system since it's last update when it's getting rather obvious that the system isn't curbing toxicity, but helping increase it.

Delioth2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sythriel Draken,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kLImTBAQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-12-09T10:54:16.955+0000) Riot's system is currently more of a punishment to the Non toxic players than it is for the toxic ones. Someone that's smart with their intentional feeding will do it one game, play normally the next, and then go back to intentional feeding the moment someone pisses them off and riot's system currently does not check patterns in games until multiple BACK TO BACK reports are given. I know this because one game I got pissed off at a teammate, intentionally fed, said it in chat, and nothing happened, not even a warning.

Can you quote where Riot gave this information, or do you have proof of your claim?

Because they deliberately didn't give that much info on the subject so people couldn't game the system.

Lost R4 votes

I think they should. A person who starts to gradually slide off the deep end is much different than a person who started the game with the intention of being an asshole. It's not shrouded in vaguery, either. It's like porn; you know it when you see it.

I've seen people all too readily start being a shithead for any reason, or no reason. They think they won't get hit with any consequences and any punishments will be a light rap on the knuckles, anyways. I think Riot should start coming down harder on offenses like these. MUCH harder. Anyone who goes in intentionally being an asshole, they should get three months suspension and any and all IP, RP and LP stripped from them. If they jump onto another account to do the same thing, six more months. They continue to do it, all their accounts get locked at level 1, permabanned from ranked, and they will no longer gain IP, can no longer buy RP or use masteries or runes, and the only champions they can play are on the free rotation.

Is it insane? Yes. Will they do it? Of course not, but we need something big, heavy and draconian for the people who regularly sabotage the game for everyone else.

Sozan52 votes

I disagree.

Heavier punishment means very little if anything. It's all about how inevitable the punishment is. A player will thinks twice about intentionally feeding if he is nearly 100% sure he will get punished for it - even if the punishment itself is not heavy (let's say a few ranked restriction). This is especially true for continued offenses (as they have increased severity of the punishment).

On another note - stripping an account of a currency bought with real money is a terrible practice and no company should ever do that (unless it was obtained illegaly, for example through an exploit).

Lost R1 votes

I know, hence why I said they wouldn't do it. To be fair, I was quite pissed off at the time of writing that, having gone through several games in a row where people decided to have a bad day and sabotaged the game for everyone else.

Regu1us 91 votes

Are you Donald Trump in disguise?

Meanie402 votes

http://ask.fm/RiotLyte/answer/134557800642

(P)layers who troll or intentionally feed now receive 14-day or permanent bans for their offenses after 1-2 games.

Sythriel Draken3 votes

This is not true based on practice. Ever since they switched the intentional feeding to the automated system, I've not seen one person banned for intentionally feeding after 1-2 games. This is checking up on them via op.gg to see if they are playing games..

Sneakos4 votes

What makes you think he didn't get banned?

Randomonium2 votes

He will get banned eventually. I wish riot would do something to compensate players who players who lost ranked games to such players. Like for example if Riot bans someone for intentionally feeding then all of that player's allies would receive a retroactive loss forgiven for the game he played with them.

PDE5 Inhibitors3 votes

He will get banned eventually.

It should only take 1 game. Maybe if they were as strict with trolls as they were "bad words", people wouldn't have to flame at the trolls. Root cause works wonders :)

Randomonium3 votes

No one gets banned after one game unless they go crazy with racial slurs or death threats.

PDE5 Inhibitors2 votes

Racial slurs and death threats = intentionally feeding. Actually, I can at least mute some dude saying racial slurs and it will no longer affect the game in anyway.

qetzel2 votes

It is a little (a lot) harder to detect intentional feeding etc than bad words. From a small sample of match history, many feedings will look like bad games, and that is with a human eye. Creating a system (which is needed for something on the scale of League) to detect it is even harder.

PDE5 Inhibitors2 votes

All they have to do is watch 5 mins of a game lol.

qetzel2 votes

Quite hard to do when there are over 27 million players each week. That is a fuck ton of games. Even if only a small percent have an intentional feeder that is still hours and hours of game. Perhaps "hard" is the wrong word. It is far too time consuming to have people watching replays.

PDE5 Inhibitors3 votes

I'm not saying watch every game. I'm saying if some dude gets reported for intentional feeding and his match history looks like "bad games", hit that watch button. I mean, they claim that they investigate their chat punishments, so I don't see this taking much more time than that....especially considering this would actually lead to improvements.

xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes

[{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kLImTBAQ,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2015-12-09T16:37:18.752+0000)

It should only take 1 game. Maybe if they were as strict with trolls as they were "bad words", people wouldn't have to flame at the trolls. Root cause works wonders :)

Amen.

Jonxx3 votes

Oh yeah? http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/VAJyTAoz-about-report-i-need-a-red-answere-really

Randomonium1 votes

I don't see the point of you linking that thread. He got a red who responded that they are already looking at banning that player.

Chances are that guy flew under the radar for so long because people assumed reporting him wouldn't do anything, just like you guys seem to think.

Veraska2 votes

One time I went into my match history and I saw my last 3 played games were nasus top in ranked with around 30 deaths a piece, I don't play ranked.

Some one hacked into my account and tried to get it banned through intentionally feeding and it probably would've worked if I didn't send in a support ticket and the fact that I had never played ranked before or intentionally fed before helped my case a lot.

I feel like a lot of these super feed in ranked accounts could be people who were in the same boat as me, and I'd be furious if they banned my account because some dork decided to have some fun at everyone else's expense.

Probably not tho, I still report when that stuff happens, but it's always I'm the back of my mind

ThatH1N12 votes

did he get to 100?

Secretlolz2 votes

Should be obvious at this point that Riot absolutely doesn't care how many people ruin the games. They just have an automated and inefficient system that looks for continuous patterns and bans. People know how to avoid those patterns and go unpunished ruining everyone's experience.

Riot only cares for how much money they can produce, not about if you're having a bad time

PIMPSMOOTH1 votes

Link the game you're referencing.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lim Dul 95 Swag,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kLImTBAQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-12-09T08:58:16.436+0000)

Not sure why some people are not simply banned. But of course its ranked... so.

People can purchase boots then run straight at the turret and die at the 30 second mark... type into chat "99" respawn, run directly in and die again before his lane foe even arrives... type "98"

You can see where this is going.

I'd say he got to about "89" when I muted him.

But for him to be in ranked he has to have leveled to 30 and unlocked 16 champs. Meaning he is complete;y unconcerned with this type of behavior being punished or resulting in a ban.

And that is the saddest part in all of this.

This is not spontaneous behavior. This is something a person with no fear of repercussion does because they have been taught through previous inaction that there will be zero reprisal.

This combined with all the racism and homophobia that goes unchecked is just too much. Especially considering I have to toil through the game for 20 minutes because if I don't then I am the one punished via leaverbuster. Gonna take a break from this and try something else, at least til next year. The community here is not very encouraging to be around as of late and the leaverbuster mechanic actually assists the griefing. Without it there us nothing keeping you in games like this.

edit: In case u are wondering he finished with 21 deaths before becoming bored.

Stop being such a baby. This shit is human nature. Suck it up.

I really hope you're ignored. You sound like one of those people that reports people because you died diving Leona and Ashe under turret at level 1 and somehow expected your support to help you get a double kill instead of dying. Your kind is too prevalent in ranked. There is no way you should be handed to opportunity to punish people for their opponents being better.

badooga5 votes

It is human nature to purposely lose at a team game and ruin at least 4 other player's fun?

Drackolus1 votes

They may have wanted to quit anyway.

Samus721 votes

A couple of people have said that one game of bad stuff won't get you punished. That's a dangerous way to play. Depending on the severity, Riot absolutely can punish someone for one game. They have the sole discretion to do so if that's what Riot wants to do. Yes, it is more likely that things will just stack up against you. But do you really want to risk that? Well, it's your account. But I'd advise against that.

DeynaTaggerung1 votes

If you look at his match history he doesn't have any other games like that. Most likely he was frustrated at being stuck in B5 and decided to blow off steam in that game. I'm not saying that his behavior was anything like acceptable, but you have to realize that's not something that Riot can really catch as a 1 off thing.

I think the reason you're getting so frustrated is because you play too much ranked. Playing Ranked when you're not really moving anywhere can be very frustrating, especially in Bronze. I know because that was me a year ago. Go back to normals where people don't get as worked up and where your MMR can climb easier. Focus on both enjoying the game for just being a game again and think about what you could do to improve. It can be hard to improve when the people around you are playing pretty poorly (there's a lot of chronic B5ers out there). Pull back from that environment for a bit, and when you do start Ranked again that should be enough impetus to get you moving again.

(if you have some free time leaguecraft101 the youtube series is great and it's what got me out of Bronze. Even though the examples are a little old, all the mechanics he talks about are still very true.)

CtrlAltDelites1 votes

RITO is so stupid that tey dont implement a save replay system,to upload a little avi/screenshot to the system/forum to report but they punish you for insult feeders,they go 1/10 or afk in base doing little steps to not get dc,you insult them and who gets the punishment?you again,RITO please put a replay system to record matchs every single moba has it and works to track bad players

Berry Blast1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lim Dul 95 Swag,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kLImTBAQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-12-09T08:58:16.436+0000)

Not sure why some people are not simply banned. But of course its ranked... so.

People can purchase boots then run straight at the turret and die at the 30 second mark... type into chat "99" respawn, run directly in and die again before his lane foe even arrives... type "98"

You can see where this is going.

I'd say he got to about "89" when I muted him.

But for him to be in ranked he has to have leveled to 30 and unlocked 16 champs. Meaning he is complete;y unconcerned with this type of behavior being punished or resulting in a ban.

And that is the saddest part in all of this.

This is not spontaneous behavior. This is something a person with no fear of repercussion does because they have been taught through previous inaction that there will be zero reprisal.

This combined with all the racism and homophobia that goes unchecked is just too much. Especially considering I have to toil through the game for 20 minutes because if I don't then I am the one punished via leaverbuster. Gonna take a break from this and try something else, at least til next year. The community here is not very encouraging to be around as of late and the leaverbuster mechanic actually assists the griefing. Without it there us nothing keeping you in games like this.

edit: In case u are wondering he finished with 21 deaths before becoming bored.

you mean you're surprised people do this in this community? i've actually had a shaco rage at me because i wouldnt get gromp low for him while he was killing blue so he gets it cleared faster then feed my lane and then my opponent said he was going to honor him for the free win he then proceeded to tell me he wont get banned because they only look at the chat and that i was going to get banned because i was typing in all chat to report him... i reported and nothing happened he still does it like once every 10 games i checked his match history about a week later...dont worry though the root of toxicity is from people who say negative comments ingame which the robot can find the key word and ban them

TwoD1 votes

League of Legends

Chewbacca Merkin1 votes

League gets worse and worse because the punishment system gets stupider and stupider. Do they even have ONE toxic player on staff?

Opportunistic1 votes

Here riot, problem solved. account bans and I.P. Bans instead. O, I.P. bans failed because player changed service providers? Ok time for a STATIC IP BAN ( yes that is possible ).

ModPrandine

IP bans don't work because they could unintentionally block out more than one person from being able to play the game. The one time that they actually did an IP ban they actually prevented an entire college from being able to play. This is why IP bans don't work (well that and the fact that the trolls and jerks can just go and just simply change their IP's if they're tech-savvy enough to do so).

Bandit King Z1 votes

I do agree that punishment should be dealt swiftly, severely and 100% of the time (In the case of assholes being assholes). A player having a bad game is debatable but someone being a tool straight up is pretty easily identifiable and cut and dry.

I've played mostly Bots and ARAM because I just didn't want to deal with the toxicity. I feel helpless sometimes because I sank so much money into this game out of the fact I DO enjoy the game in itself, but I'm limited and restricted that I can't enjoy it to the fullest extent (Not counting ranked. I'm not touching that) due to just not wanting to deal with the BS. Muting and ignoring only goes so far when you've already been humiliated and berrated.

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