The riot ban system, you actually get punished for this chat log .

Caçanoobs·Jul 3, 2017·1 votes·663 views

Game 3 Caçanoobs: morgana Caçanoobs: well ok Caçanoobs: show in lane illi Caçanoobs: wait hold on man Caçanoobs: just show in lane please Caçanoobs: dont come Caçanoobs: illi Caçanoobs: fine Caçanoobs: she muted me thanks Caçanoobs: vel ward here Caçanoobs: yea and you wont be seeing me again Caçanoobs: :) Caçanoobs: feels bad thanks for flaming Caçanoobs: i make mistakes like anyone else Caçanoobs: but someone is a flamer :/ Caçanoobs: too bad my cs is close to yours Caçanoobs: im reporting you Caçanoobs: stop being so fucking negative ok Caçanoobs: here we got first tower Caçanoobs: yea i give you a kill Caçanoobs: and another one and another one Caçanoobs: you call me a retard Caçanoobs: yea cause you where feeding your ass off 1 -5 Caçanoobs: then i did gank and you got a kill Caçanoobs: miss no memory Caçanoobs: afro ninja didnt we play together earler today ? Caçanoobs: who did you play before this one ? Caçanoobs: report illaoi and jhin Caçanoobs: verbal abuse both

( you guys can probably fill in the blanks ) illi is our top laner vel coz is our mid laner and im the jungler the ( you wont be seeing me again ) is what i said when i gank someone get them a kill , and they start pinging cause im taxing , everyone keeps hating on me all the time and the ban system is getting me even though i didnt verbally abuse anyone as clear in the chat logs cause premades .

26 Comments

Starcraft243verJul 3, 201714 votes

You were quite negative. Not enough to trigger a ban but... what about game 1 & 2 ? :)

eldurisJul 3, 20175 votes

Good question, very observant. I didn't notice this on my first read.

OP, if you'd like feedback on your ban, please post entire unedited chat logs, not cherry-picked ones. You were suspended not just for that one game, so claiming you were is disingenuous.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20172 votes

well you need to be negative for 3 games the way i understand it so riot thinks the way i acted in this one is part of the problem , ill repost the other 2 games later if the ban isnt up next time i log in youre welcome , id just like to note that on the flip side , the other people said things that are really ban worthy , never got a " they got banned notification " in addition to that i wish riot would give full chat log rather than what i said alone .

sirwaterflesJul 4, 20172 votes

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well you need to be negative for 3 games the way i understand it so riot thinks the way i acted in this one is part of the problem.

Not really, you have to be REALLY negative or display a long continuous patern of negativity. With you it was probably the later. Think of it as a bucket with a small hole in the bottem; if you are just only bit negative in a small amount of your games it will just flow out but if you are extremely negative or negative in a larg portion of your games the bucket will flood and you will get a punishment. This game isnt that negative but (with actions in game we cant see here maybe) it can be just the little drop that made the bucket flow over and this one got randomly selected from the bucket of examples. This is the reason riot sends multiple chatlogs so we cant judge nor help out if we dont have every bit of information and thus the other chatloggs.

never got a " they got banned notification "

if they were toxic their bucket just got a lot fuller and he will flood soon if they continue with that behavior. Riot doesnt ban instantly based on one game unless you really crossed the line. Lucky for me because im no saint myself. I do have those rare games where you are having a bad day at the end of a stressfull week where you are tilted from the last game and you just explode into a flame war with that dick that has to comment and sspingspam you on when you fucked up. im not proud of it but it happens. Riot knows this and thats why they have the bucket system so that if it arent large infractions and they only happen in a really small amount of games and you are really sportmanlike in the others they wont punish you. This is the reason why you dont always get a banned notification after every rightfull report.

in addition to that i wish riot would give full chat log rather than what i said alone .

This is because it is about you and your behavior. You have the mute and report options for the otherguys.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

this is a bit of too long didnt read , but negative attitude isnt verbal abuse theres a difference , what you seem to be referring to is verbal abuse , negative attitude is giving up basically .

sirwaterflesJul 4, 20171 votes

Its funny to me how you didnt read it but still were confident enough to try to correct me on what i supossedly meant to say. I can see how you could have taken as being mainly about verbal abuse but it isnt. If you spam ff of cooldown from min 15 onwards while only being 10/14 teamscore or if you give up on grouping and helping out the team because you cant give a shit anymore the system will pick up on it and fill the bucket accordingly. This again is why its really hard to judge from one single chatlog and why riot sends you multiple in hope you remember those games and know why you are punished.

sirwaterflesJul 4, 20171 votes

From your other posts it seems like you really dont understand why this chatlog is included. I hope you have atleast read my bucket analogy. Say you get punished at a 100 points and chatlog 1 and 2 were 25 and 14 points respectfully (you wont give them so i cant really asses them). You werent exactly mister positive in these chatlogs either. As you mentioned negative attitude isnt pure verbale abuse so maybe you were spamming ff votes or did something else the system picked up on and this game got given a 1 point score right when you were already at 99 points from previous reported games. Now the punishment will trigger and 3 chatlogs (mostly recent once) will be randomly chosen to give to you so you can remember your actions in that game and say you cant continue with that behavior. It really isnt about what the other guys did or about this one particular game. It is about your continuous patern of negative behavior so please get over this one chatlog and take the other 2 as a big nonos for the future and make this chatlog the worst there is to find :p

Glamorous RammusJul 4, 20171 votes

Games 1 & 2 aren't relevant to the OPs discussion. They have nothing to do withh THIS chat log. I think the point of this post is to see why this chat log was a reportable offense. If he really was being called "retard" and his team really was abusing communication pings to harass, then the OP should be concerned whether or not the other players were dealt with too.

Just because someone responds to your negativity, shouldn't excuse your negativity.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

im not sure what negatives you see in what i did , but the community is total trash and i dont see bans flying around , how is this by the current community standards a reportable chat chat log this is my concern , riot is being unfair with me , you cant even post the whole chat log thing cause thats public shaming but im sick of it and shouldnt have to listen to this, like i get abused and thats all fine and well but get a chat ban for whatever i did wrong in that game the next day after posting something about how the community is abusing me , why is negative attitude a chat ban even it means youre giving up in terms of gameplay it has nothing to do with what you say it should be associated with your play patterns similar to intentional feeding but to a lesser degree , some how this chat log in peoples mind is bad and you make a good point , game 1 and 2 have nothing to do with this im asking whats so bad about game 3 .

Glamorous RammusJul 4, 20171 votes

You may not have said anything particularly aggressive, but your attitude about it was negative. I'm on your side!

Honestly, people get carried away with trolling and always seem to get away with it if you say anything back.

I'm an avid reporter, I report abuse of communication pings, sarcasm, passive-aggressive insults, and tilting.

BeatzBoyFTWJul 3, 20176 votes

The fact that you decided to not show Game 1 & 2 already determines you actually acknowledged you were truly toxic, & tried to be dishonest with us here to think we can "forgive your innocence".

So in conclusion, you deserved the punishment.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20172 votes

riot said game 3 is part of the problem , do you see a problem here , maybe i was bad in games 1 and 2 , why is game 3 showing up in the ban logs ?

AnomanderJul 4, 20171 votes

Nope. No problem. Games that are listed in your logs are recent games that you are reported in. While this game alone would not merit a punishment it definetly has negative behavior. A consistent negative behavior can lead to punishments as well.

Caçanoobs: im reporting you Caçanoobs: yea cause you where feeding your ass off 1 -5 Caçanoobs: report illaoi and jhin Caçanoobs: verbal abuse both

All of this is considered inappropriate. As you are harassing a player and threatening reports. Also asking for reports is not reallt considered positive as it only take a single report to flag a game for review and you NEVER need another play to report not that IFS is in place.

Also.

Caçanoobs: you call me a retard

While i know you were not calling a person that term, you are repeating it and adding to a already negative experience. No need to engage and worsen the situation.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

ok fine so people get to abuse me and thats fine , but repeating that term is offensive , youre a horrible human being and a total hypocrite.

AnomanderJul 4, 20171 votes

There is a difference in context. We are discussing why it was wrong. In game it did nothing but aggravate the issue. The issue to me wasn't the use of the word it was the engaging in the toxic situation making it worse.

Also this doesn't make me a hypocrite as this is not in-game and is a willing conversation instead of a forced situation.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

the because you where feeding your ass off 1 -5 at min 11 and asking me to gank his lane , what am i suppose to do go there against my better judgement and give the other guy a double kill ??

ModPeriscopeJul 3, 20171 votes

You were still harassing your teammate in this game. But ya, why are we only given games 1 and 2?

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

why put game 3 in the report if its not part of the problem, id get games 1 and 2 if i could , i thought that 1 would be enough for this kind of thing no one wants to read all that .

archerno1Jul 3, 20171 votes

Its cute that it says "game 3", you purposely avoided posting first 2 games.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

why put game 3 in the report if its not part of the problem, id get games 1 and 2 if i could .

LeylaniaJul 3, 20171 votes

Since you try to hide the chat logs of game 1 and 2 I guess we can all agree that the ban was well deserved.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

why put game 3 in the report if its not part of the problem, id get games 1 and 2 if i could . im looking for logs on game 1 and 2 but i guess its gone .

YerroFeverJul 3, 20171 votes

Selective copy and pasting is frowned upon. Everyone has already called you out on not showing games 1 and 2.

Post your full chat logs.

CaçanoobsJul 4, 20171 votes

i cant theyre gone , tell me whats wrong with game 3 anyway because riot says its part of the problem dont change the subject

YerroFeverJul 4, 20171 votes