Demoted to Honor 1.

MadViking··1 votes·847 views

In game it says "Because of recent penalties you lost access to rewards. Stay focused on keeping cool and you'll get your rewards back."

I earned this after a recent chat suspension thing and it demoted me back to honor 1. I grinded through my 10 game restriction, and my chat is back to normal now.

So does this mean Riot will reinstate my previous honor as soon as I prove myself or do I literally have to earn my honor back by grinding it out again?

18 Comments

Chermorg2 votes

When you are demoted in honor level, it's the same as when honor came out - you start at that level and will progress honor over time. If that's a "grind", then yes, it's how you describe it. Honor isn't supposed to be a grind, though, but a natural progression if you behave properly over weeks/months.

MadViking1 votes

It feels more like a grind honestly. I don't like the new honor system at all. Someone who hasn't necessarily made an impact over the entire game can make a last minute clutch play and become the most honored person in the team, even becoming more honored than lets say an obnoxious jungle who lands several successful gank's early and gets you ahead. Or when mid Katarina roams and has like 12 kills in 10 minutes.

I play top -- usually I lead the game in tower and inhib destroyed but I'm rarely the most honored person. Most games I'm lucky to get 1 honor.

SamBunzly1 votes

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It feels more like a grind honestly. I don't like the new honor system at all. Someone who hasn't necessarily made an impact over the entire game can make a last minute clutch play and become the most honored person in the team, even becoming more honored than lets say an obnoxious jungle who lands several successful gank's early and gets you ahead. Or when mid Katarina roams and has like 12 kills in 10 minutes.

It's not meant to be a grind, nor is it to reward skill. The honor system exists to rewards players based on their sportsmanship and how well they cooperated/interacted with their team. This has been expanded in the honor rework to include shotcalling and keeping calm despite flaming, but the fundamentals remain unchanged.

No, you won't be getting your previous honor level back. That's similar to earning someone's trust, betraying them, and expecting you two to still be best friends.

The "getting your rewards back" means that you'll receive the honor capsules, key fragments, Mastery Shards, and Hextech Chests after you show sportsmanlike behavior again.

Kei1431 votes

Personally I noticed that if no one is making a strong impression in behavior, people will honor the one that has contributed the most towards the game.

However, if you have good communicated calls, were really tilt proof or made a significant effort in making the game enjoyable, then I do see people honoring for that more often than the good plays alone.

MadViking1 votes

I don't really talk in chat anymore, just pings.....

I honestly got restricted because of my "toxic" comments, but they were all at toxic players. People that were intentionally throwing games, going afk, and spamming stupid tilting remarks in all chat.

I really hate how I get restricted for calling out assholes who ruin our game, yet the real toxic people don't need to say anything at all. Just deliberately throw the game, and they are everywhere.

Drugoth1 votes

Don't worry, 25 days is more than enough time to grind back up to honor level 5. Just remember to use your honors on randoms over your premade friends to earn the full amount of points!

Also, it's pretty obvious, but try to avoid getting another punishment!

Douglas Funnie1 votes

It's impossible to go from honor level 1 to honor level 5 in less than a month. He'll have an extremely hard time reaching level 2 by Nov 7th.

Drugoth1 votes

Oh, that's right, I started at honor 2... you're right, it might be a tall order this late in the season...

MadViking1 votes

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Don't worry, 25 days is more than enough time to grind back up to honor level 5. Just remember to use your honors on randoms over your premade friends to earn the full amount of points!

Also, it's pretty obvious, but try to avoid getting another punishment!

25 days? I been playing months and never made it past honor 3... lol. I don't remember when this honor system came out, and after season 6 I took a huge break and started this season late. Started around June or July.

Been honor 3 ever since.

Drugoth1 votes

I came back from a long hiatus too, around the same time you did, I was able to reach honor 5 from honor 2 in about 5 weeks time, but I was only playing an average of around 10-15 games a week I think.

I think it's possible, but you'd have to seriously spam games.

MadViking1 votes

Oh I was playing more games than 10-15 a week. My new schedule I work 12hr shifts and I have 4 days off each week so I can probably get 20+ easily.

Can you get reported and no action taken against you? And do reports negate honor progression even when no action is taken against you?

Silent Gravity1 votes

Valid reports (for example GGEZ in your text, just once) will slow down your honor growth even though it doesn't earn a punishment.

MadViking1 votes

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Valid reports (for example GGEZ in your text, just once) will slow down your honor growth even though it doesn't earn a punishment.

Saying GGEZ slows down your honor growth?

That's a bit ridiculous imo. That's not even what I would consider toxic.

Silent Gravity1 votes

Yes, it does (I think). The Honor faqs mention 'clean games' multiple times, and aside from tiny things like that, I can't think of a plausible reason for the large differences in honor gain speed.

It is very light toxicity, but it's still not perfectly acceptable.

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I been playing months and never made it past honor 3

Your lack of honor level gain and your view on what constitutes toxicity may be related.

MadViking1 votes

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Yes, it does (I think). The Honor faqs mention 'clean games' multiple times, and aside from tiny things like that, I can't think of a plausible reason for the large differences in honor gain speed.

It is very light toxicity, but it's still not perfectly acceptable.

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Your lack of honor level gain and your view on what constitutes toxicity may be related.

No I know what toxic is. This is a competitive game and there has been no competitive game in existence that wasn't made great with out prolific trash talk or what have you.

I don't see how having competitive exchanges within reason are considered toxic.

Basically everything is considered "toxic" in this game. The very nature of this game enables the toxicity, you don't even need players to make it toxic. It just is.

I admit I got restricted and demoted out of frustration, and I did vent to my team. The way I did it may have been a little extreme but I felt like I was in the right and telling them because it literally cost us the game. And prior to that I had intentional feeders, intentional tilters, and afkers. All that built up and I just exploded in my last two losing games which gave me the restriction.

I feel like I'm walking on egg shells on this game -- when I see a player make a mistake telling them what they did wrong and what they should do next time can even be "toxic" even when done properly.

In most my games I simply have to /mute all, use my pings and hope for the best anymore.

Silent Gravity1 votes

I've seen competitive behavior ranging from championship Go to street fights.

There is no trash talking in Go.

If you take the time and breath to trash talk during a real fight, the likelihood of personal injury rises significantly. After about 4 fights, everyone figures that out.

MadViking1 votes

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I've seen competitive behavior ranging from championship Go to street fights.

There is no trash talking in Go.

If you take the time and breath to trash talk during a real fight, the likelihood of personal injury rises significantly. After about 4 fights, everyone figures that out.

This is a video game... People in major sports all the time trash talk and it doesn't go anywhere outside the game.

It can be done.

This is not a "real fight" it's a video game.

Silent Gravity1 votes

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I feel like I'm walking on egg shells on this game -- when I see a player make a mistake telling them what they did wrong and what they should do next time can even be "toxic" even when done properly.

It can feel very frustrating. One way to not be perceived as toxic is to give advice after you're asked for it, and not just dumping it out.

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