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The actual reason why its almost impossible to leave bronze

Broke Homie Quan··4 votes·2,117 views

everytime I get promoted to bronze 4 I end up back in bronze 5 because of people trolling hard and when I say trolling I mean this.

  1. its always at least 1 person who says they aren't gonna play their best just because its bronze
  2. someone who plays a champ they never ever played before in ranked or haven't played in a while and then feeds
  3. someone rage quits 10 minutes in or mid game

I literally deal with these every game and its ridiculous especially # 1 and #2 people always saying "well idc if we lose its just bronze" like what is the whole point in playing ranked if you don't wanna try to help in a bronze elo.

the only reason I'm in bronze is because when I first started ranked I haven't played league in about a year because I just moved to Miami and I was getting situated so I had to get a laptop to play sooo anyways I had a laptop but no mouse and I was on crappy wifi and that ended horribly landing me in bronze from lagging and using the laptop pad for a mouse .... now that I have those fixed I just wish there was a way I could reset my elo and try again this is a really frustrating elo lol and very toxic

58 Comments

KVbqbFsC8e10 votes

The actual reason is that you aren't good enough.

DrCyanide1 votes

How much better than the rank you're trying to hit should you be?

I'm not saying that you shouldn't look to improve, or that there's no room for improvement. I'm just saying that it's unreasonable to expect someone to perform at a level 5 tiers higher than they are to climb 1 tier.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

I honestly think I should be in atleast silver 1-3 nothing major not saying I'm a god or anything its just a majority of games people quit or afk its ridiculous

JeLLö1 votes

This is the problem, in general, with people in bronze. They think they are a lot better than they really are. People in bronze are in bronze because they simply aren't good. Admitting that to yourself will be huge for you going forward. When you climb through the ranks you see a general theme in the various tiers. Bronze = lack of focus on objectives, poor cs, poor game knowledge, generally bad mechanics, bad decision making. Focusing on objectives and good decision making alone will get you to gold. Just a quick glace at your past games shows both lack of game knowledge and really really low cs. I see a 60+ minute game as a top later with just 239 cs!!!! That means you roughly got 6,666 / 23,072 gold available to you by minions that game. Think about that for a moment... Focus on just cs, even if you have to go to bot games, and work on improving that.

This is not meant as a bashing attempt, but if you look at your mmr (rough estimate) you would see that you are actually well below even bronze 5 mmr. That means if there was a wood tier, you would be in it. This is a big problem because even if you get on a hot streak you won't climb at a good pace until your mmr catches up.

Kirius Dark1 votes

Your builds, summoners, CS, ability skill up choices, masteries and runes are all atrocious. AKA doing it all wrong and well deserving bronze

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

The OPs case is different. He is Bronze 5. Thats the lowest you can get. If someone is there after nearly 400 games and a 42% winrate, the reality is they are nowhere close to Silver.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

your're not taking the reason a lot of games are being lost in consideration I feel like you just want to argue lol I have no way of preventing rage quitters or afks but its whatever I can wait till the season is over

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Ragequitters/feeders/afkers aren't exclusive to Bronze as you seem to think for some reason. In fact, they are most common in Platinum.

If you think that hitting Silver suddenly means nobody is going to ragequit afk or feed, then you are sadly mistaken. Not to mention that if you suddenly did start at Silver for whatever reason, you'd drop right back down to Bronze anyway.

Kurai Mahou no1 votes

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your're not taking the reason a lot of games are being lost in consideration I feel like you just want to argue lol I have no way of preventing rage quitters or afks but its whatever I can wait till the season is over

You don't seem to understand how your rank is determined. You are Bronze V this season next season your current MMR is averaged with the MMR of mid Silver. Even if you somehow win all 10 placement games in season 8 you are still going to be bronze.

TrulyBland1 votes

Depends on how fast you want to climb. You don't need to be better than the rank you're trying to hit to get there eventually. You do need to be better if you want to get there more quickly.

But that's not a problem with the system, it's the inherent nature of the thing. The closer you get to the rank you deserve, the closer your winrate gets to 50%, the slower your climb. That's not unreasonable, it's simply how maths work.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

I know it's frustrating, but, if you DON'T do those things, there are only 4 spots for trolls on your team and 5 spots for trolls on the enemy team. The odds are in your favor, although I know it doesn't often feel that way -- confirmation bias is a real thing, and it can be super irritating when it feels like you always have trolls and the enemy never does.

she plays ahri2 votes

Are you seriously implying the way to climb out of Bronze is to get more trolls on the enemy team than your own? That's literally flipping a coin- I might as well be doing that, because it's clear my individual contribution to the team doesn't matter beyond "not trolling." This is exactly the criticism dunkey had when he quit League.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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Are you seriously implying the way to climb out of Bronze is to get more trolls on the enemy team than your own? That's literally flipping a coin- I might as well be doing that, because it's clear my individual contribution to the team doesn't matter beyond "not trolling." This is exactly the criticism dunkey had when he quit League.

Nope. I'm actually just saying that the effect that trolls have on your team is, mathematically, likely less than the effect they have on the enemy team, so the "I'm in Bronze because of trolls" argument doesn't hold much water.

Skill is still the best way to climb, as has been proven by quite a few talents players climbing out of Bronze reliably and quickly.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

I usually top sometimes ill carry sometimes ill do just fine till laning phase is over but most of the times someone will feed early game and that fed champ just wrecks everyone and peple start rage quitting there is nothing I can do about that except accept the lost

Firethorn1 votes

Try to win you lane and then roam to mid lane and help them out. Not a top laner but I think this should help a bit

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

I do that all the time lol especially as sol mid or gangplank I'm just gonna keep trying lol

SecondAirbane2 votes

i can give you another tip bring flash on any1 except shaco or stuff like that

best summoner in game

Harlus1 votes

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I usually top sometimes ill carry sometimes ill do just fine till laning phase is over but most of the times someone will feed early game and that fed champ just wrecks everyone and peple start rage quitting there is nothing I can do about that except accept the lost

To climb a tier you actually have to play BETTER than the tier you are in. So if you're in bronze and you want to go to silver for example, you have to carry all if not most of your games.

Automated Riven2 votes

I have never had any problem leaving bronze. I get placed bronze 3 or 4 every season and leave it in like 50-60 games every year.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

when do seasons start over?

Firethorn1 votes

This season should end in a little less than 3 months

Automated Riven1 votes

Usually ranked starts in January? I am not sure exactly. But the worst time to play ranked is the first few weeks to be honest. Everything is a clusterfuck

Magical Zoe2 votes

Play any meta champ if you want to get out of bronze. Or 1 trick a champion that wins you games.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

someone told me that before lol that's why I see so many Yi's and jax's I just feel like its so cheap lmao I never played as neither of them because I can tell how easy they are

Mig891 votes

Any champ can get you to gold if you master them. Some easier than others but finding something you enjoy and have a good winrate on is important until you learn how to play the game properly and are playing with people who play correctly. No offense, it's just that people aren't playing the game until you're play or above. Below that it's more about the micro than macro and the macro play really is the beauty of the game

Killer30001891 votes

I know you don't have to or anything but taking flash really helps, it looks like you only take flash on ornn. Can i know why you dont use flash on anyone beside orrn?

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

I use flash on a lot of champs but I usually only use it on people with low mobility

for instance graves his E can dash through walls just like flash I'm like why would I need flash when my E is basically that with a lower cooldown idk tho its just me and how I think I never really had a problem with the summoner skills tbh

Killer30001891 votes

Hmm ok thanks

AlienPrimate1 votes

The problem with that is most champions have a mobility spells and people who play them also take flash. They have 2 dashes and you have 1. There aren't really that many champions who can get away with not having flash in higher levels of play. Here is a list of those I know who can. Anyone else should probably have flash.

Kassadin MasterYi Olaf Shaco Singed Talon

These are the only ones that could commonly take something other than flash. Some others can use ghost over it like Nasus Udyr WarwickTryndamere . Any other champ is gimped by not having flash. It allows you to do so much more than just go over a wall when chasing or running away. You can trick people by flashing into bushes, dodge important skill shots like Ashe's ult, position yourself to make a play with an ability of your own when the enemy doesn't expect it, flash out of tower range after a tower dive to survive with less than 100 hp, and so much more. Basically anyone who isn't Singed, Shaco, Talon, Kassadin, or a bum rush auto attacking champion who can use ghost needs to have flash.

TrulyBland1 votes

I literally deal with these every game

How often do you think that happens to the enemy? These strong impacting random events can slow you down to some extent, but they can and will not actually keep you below your deserved rank.

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

how if I'm dealing with a 3v5 those losses will not make my rank any higher haha but there has been times when it was on the other side but from MY experience ive been having the quitters on my end

TrulyBland1 votes

Okay, but now think about this realistically for a second: Why would that be the case? Why would there be more quitters on your side than the enemy side? Do you believe the system not only knows in advance who will quit, but also then decides to put them specifically on your team?

Honestly, ones own memory is a terrible source of information... even ones own perception in the present is not exactly reliable. I recommend that you stop focussing too much on the things you cannot control and ask yourself how you could have done better, even when the game couldn't have been won either way.

Basically, whenever you consider the game lost, consider it a training session. Focus on things you typically lose out of sight, take the opportunity and learn how to minimize deaths when playing at a disadvantage, etc. etc.

Kurai Mahou no1 votes

Main Jax, Yi, Yorick, or Kayle for Top Lane. Understand their kit and items.

Take the F----ing Flash with Teleport or Ignite (one or the other) and NOT both. Even Ghost is better than what you are currently using.

So what if Yi and Jax are braindead easy, or so you say. You want to climb? Abuse the broken, OP, braindead champs. You don't even play these champs and you say they "look easy so I won't play them"? You are not Silver or Gold, so play something more to your level. A bronzie shouldn't be playing half the champ roster in ranked when they don't even know how to build or have the mechanics for them.

Get your priorities straight, get out of the elo hell then worry about playing a "fun" champ.

I was in Bronze myself second year into playing League (Season 6). I mained Sona in mid and support to high bronze, then shifted to Udyr and Amumu Jungle into Silver. Picked up Kayle as my main in Top Lane in mid-season 6 and got to Gold. You need a change in attitude and perspective if you want to get out of bronze.

Cocho1 votes

Git gud? Alot of players get our of bronze. I got out of bronze last season and got stuck in silver 3 lol. And I continued to improve and left that elo.

If you're carrying. people aren't going to afk. People on their 1st time champ isnt that different than them playing their mains. Its bronze lol.

Subdue1 votes

The first step in moving up in the ratings is realizing that your team is not the problem, you are. In a setting where everyone is awful and you're great, you win most of your games, regardless of what your team is doing. It's like a high school kid competing in a basketball game with a bunch of 5th graders. Every game is a stomp.

I glanced through your match history, and here's what I found:

  1. You are a feeder every other game. When I say feeder, I mean you've got high deaths, but low kill participation.
  2. Despite often playing top lane, with teleport, and your games going over 30 minutes, you don't manage 150 CS in most of your games. In fact, in only a handful did you manage break 100. That's extremely low.
  3. Instead of running Flash, which is all but essential, you're running stuff like Teleport/Ignite. Flash not only acts as an escape, but also is more effective in securing kills than Ignite is, in most situations.
  4. You're using Windspeaker's Blessing on Vlad and Mundo. Windspeaker's Blessing's second half only applies to other champions, not to yourself. You're better off with just about any other mastery. Probably Stormraider for Vlad, and Grasp of the Undying for Mundo would be best, though I don't specialize in those champs so I'm not sure.

I'd actually have to see you play to comment further, but the short of it is, you have a lot to improve on. Right now you think and play like a Bronze player, which is why you're stuck in Bronze.

hi ìm groot1 votes

Reading posts with "the only reason i'm bronze" written anywhere in them is cringe. Placed silver late S4 and got placed bronze 5 S5 with only a few months of experience with this game and maybe a couple hundred games played. Ended up gold 3. The trick is that yes, you will lose alot of games because people down there arent the brightest, but that doesnt give you the excuse not to learn from what YOU did wrong. Own your mistakes, if you're losing more than you're winning in bronze, there will be alot of them.

StormBringer7101 votes

You should take flash on nearly every champion even Graves because if you're Graves jungle you can just E over summoner 11 and summoner 4 out. ALSO if you're still wondering new season starts November 9th i think.

-- I know this is old but thought i might jump in anyway. --

  • One of my accounts is Silver 3 (Won 5 Lost 5 placement: Silver 4) -
  • The other is Bronze 4 (Won 7 Lost 3 placement: Bronze 5) -

It can be hard as a low Silver/Bronze player to get out of Bronze but sometimes it just takes time.

Some games are unwinnable meaning even if you're doing well they cannot be won. But Bronzes think most games are, when really you need to focus on CS, Objectives, and Dying less often.

You must also accept you're perhaps not as good as you think. I did this and it got me to Silver 3 so far.

As a Bronze myself i always see others AND MYSELF not placing enough wards, not applying enough pressure around the map, not taking towers when the enemies are down but instead wasting it on running around (essentially doing nothing). OR deciding to take Elder Drake when your team has no previous Drakes, or even better still, they start baron to have it stolen by the enemy Jungler who just re-spawned and ran straight there because they had a ward and your support doesn't even have a Sweeping Lens / Oracle Alteration.

Mid - Late game you need to focus on towers NOT KILLS (a champion doesn't stay dead TOWERS DO).

Don't know if this helps but thought I might drop by if you're still looking to get out of Bronze / Silver

(P.S. If the toxicity is getting to you /mute all don't be afraid to do it you wont regret it i got 14 day suspension on both accounts for flaming so please do it if you still care about the game and don't want to end up getting banned :))

Siyther1 votes

bronze is hell i easily climb to b2 then the shit feast starts the rest of team loses lane hard a shell giving over lots of kills then it loss after losss til im back in b4 lol. its funny (not really) Thing is i watch all the video's that say cs better yada yada yada and none of it works consistantly. Mt farm on adc and mid is damn good for bronze i die way less than others and try to go ffor obj over kills. None of this matters, sure it works some games but not nearly consistanly enough when the rest of your team is outclassed. Shit games where someone is 20 and 2 by 15 min happen in a lot of games. I almost have stopped playing adc because i cant effect the early to mid game enough. So i swapped to mid for a bit but run into same problems at same elo of b2. Someone tell me wtf am i doing wrong? Sure im not consistant as i like to be but im never that guy that is feeding or a liability to the team . Some games i do really good and some bad games im still not ding alot then there are games where they have something that fucks me up like late game yi or that stupid ass volibear. LOl im about ready to just give up on this crap. IT feel like when i hit that b2 game my team is b5 and the enemy is in silver and no matter what i do we get stomped . Frustrating

DD Sync1 votes

Do you need help? Sounds like you want to know how to improve your skills to reliably win a game in bronze elo. Record one of your games on op. gg and msg me. I can look into them and talk about how you can climb.

Siyther1 votes

how do u record a game on op.gg yes i would love some help

DD Sync1 votes

Just go into "live game" while in a game, and hit the record button. You can record it in another way and upload it too, as long as I can see the replay for your game.

Siyther1 votes

k

DD Sync1 votes

sent you a friend request.

Siyther1 votes

ok its gonna be a couple days b4 i can get back on my charger for my laptop died waiting on it to come via snail mail

Siyther1 votes

okk i record like 3 from tonight one loss one win and one where i didnt do much

DD Sync2 votes

I'll look at it tomorrow, I have work today. After that we can talk about your game and what you could have done better. Keep in mind, some games are unwinnable, but as long as you maintain around a 50% winrate you can continue to climb.

Siyther1 votes

ok ty

Broke Homie Quan1 votes

don't bother telling people not in bronze this they don't understand that even if you carry hard you will still lose due to feeders/afkers and etc literally every other game or in promos lol then they will look at your losses in the history and say " well you've lost x amount of ranked games so it must be you" without looking at the game stats and realizing one or 2 of the champs were like 1-14 but its whatever Ive just been playing draft pick

Dreamspitter1 votes

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everytime I get promoted to bronze 4 I end up back in bronze 5 because of people trolling hard and when I say trolling I mean this.

  1. its always at least 1 person who says they aren't gonna play their best just because its bronze
  2. someone who plays a champ they never ever played before in ranked or haven't played in a while and then feeds
  3. someone rage quits 10 minutes in or mid game

I literally deal with these every game and its ridiculous especially # 1 and #2 people always saying "well idc if we lose its just bronze" like what is the whole point in playing ranked if you don't wanna try to help in a bronze elo.

the only reason I'm in bronze is because when I first started ranked I haven't played league in about a year because I just moved to Miami and I was getting situated so I had to get a laptop to play sooo anyways I had a laptop but no mouse and I was on crappy wifi and that ended horribly landing me in bronze from lagging and using the laptop pad for a mouse .... now that I have those fixed I just wish there was a way I could reset my elo and try again this is a really frustrating elo lol and very toxic

So in other words......

You're in Bronze for the same reasons as the people you complain about.

[zombie-brand-clap]

Just give it time. You'll become just like them.

Harlus1 votes

It's not "almost impossible to leave bronze" I can do it, and a lot of other people can do it quite easily.

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