Learn to swallow your pride and abide to the team's needs.

EugeneSims··5 votes·1,563 views

Just lost my promos to Bronze I because this Cho'Gath refused to sell his Nashor's Tooth and Wit's end when we clearly needed an extra tank to put more pressure in fights. Told him three or four times, same with our jungler and our ADC and he just said "i'm good" when his score was 8/9 at the time. Why the FUCK does he even have those items? He gets melted by the enemy team and does nothing in fights, of course we can't win when he's getting those items instead of a) more magic resist since they had three AP dealers, b) not enough armor or magic resist to even fight. He ended up selling them when we had no Nexus turrets, as if that's going to do anything when they are already hitting our Nexus to win the game.

Low ELO is absolutely Hell and it's pissing me off because these are games that could have been won if people would have LISTENED to their teams but no --- they refuse to swallow their pride, believe they are hot shit and ruin the game for everyone else. I am sick of tired of Bronze where everyone thinks themselves superior, people constantly feed or go AFK, games being thrown because people are missing some brain cells. This is absolutely ridiculous and it's not even a reportable offense or when something is worthy of being reported, it's unreliable because not everyone reports even if there was a reason to.

Do everyone a favour...If you're going to play Ranked and you're low ELO, your score is crap and the team voices what they need, do what they say. If anything, you're useful just being a meat-shield for everyone else to do something decent. Don't try to be the hero, don't copy every goddamn build you see or use in other games, learn to listen to others. And for fuck's sake --- if you can't do any of these things, don't play ranked. Just don't --- go play whatever you want in other modes but stop screwing everyone over just because you want to carry everyone when you can't even build accordingly to the current game's needs.

Bit of a vent but holy shit...this pisses me off so much. I'm trying so goddamn hard to climb and then this happens and my motivation goes down the drain. I would have given up on this game a long time ago if it wasn't for the fact that I like waiting for new champions, trying out champions and other stuff but Jesus Christ...ranked was the worst decision I've ever made.

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Skilled Theory3 votes

You didn't lost because of Cho'Gath, you lost because of you. What could YOU have done better to help your team more, what mistakes did YOU make that you could have avoided. Think of it this way, if you were Bjerg, would you have lost that game? Once you focus on self-improvement and not blaming your teammates for the elo you're in, you will begin to climb.

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EugeneSims1 votes

No, the Cho'Gath was our mid laner.

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EugeneSims1 votes

I'm sorry, I didn't notice it was a reply to his comment. Still, I don't think it was him --- username doesn't seem familiar.

Linthe1 votes

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You didn't lost because of Cho'Gath, you lost because of you. What could YOU have done better to help your team more, what mistakes did YOU make that you could have avoided. Think of it this way, if you were Bjerg, would you have lost that game? Once you focus on self-improvement and not blaming your teammates for the elo you're in, you will begin to climb.

Bjerg might not have lost THAT game.. but I have seen Bjerg go 14-2 and lose.. So yea.. sometimes even HE cant carry

EugeneSims1 votes

I really hate that mentality that "Oh, if you were good then you would have carried." because it's such a poor arguement when you take into consideration this is a game that focuses on team decisions (to some extent). If other people aren't doing decently enough, it's almost impossible for you to carry even if you are fed. You see this on your side, you see this on the enemy's side. One person isn't going to carry four others, it's just not going to happen...especially when they DON'T listen.

EugeneSims2 votes

That's the easiest thing to say whenever someone loses a game, isn't it? I did more than enough but no, it's not possible to carry a game unless most people are working together and doing decently. I won laning phase, I helped other lanes, I put as much pressure as possible but during team-fights, he would die way too quickly and I would be left alone to tank and it's just impossible to do so because I can't peel and go into the back-line at the same time.

It's always easy to copy/paste this mentality around the boards, isn't it? But the truth is, this is a team game and others are to blame (at times). When someone is doing bad, it's frustrating for others. Jungler, support and ADC were doing fine but even when I tried to peel for them, it wasn't enough because we NEEDED another tank and Cho'Gath WASN'T listening to our neeeds.

Hišoka1 votes

if youre gonna use brejgsen as an example then look at worlds when he was winning his lane and doing extremely well in the one matchup i cant remember which one but the announcers were even joking around saying the rest of tsm need to step their game up as of right now its just bjersen and 4 other dudes not tsm

KakitaMike2 votes

I haven't touched ranked, but every streamer I watch says you ignore your team and only focus on yourself to climb out of bronze/silver/gold. Pick a freelo champion and get out of gold, then focus on teamwork and playing your favorite champion.

I'm not saying that's good advice, but judging from those streaming numbers, I'm also not the only person that might be listening to that advice.

EugeneSims3 votes

You should listen to your team, though.

You shouldn't pick a champion just because they are strong and has a high win-rate if you don't know what you're doing with them. Even if you do, the chances of you carrying are minimal if other lanes are doing poorly because you can't 1v5, win and just push by yourself, tha doesn't happen. People see that you are strong and they will focus you, it's how the game works. You can do your best and it's still not enough because others didn't do their best or they didn't do enough to win. Especially with Dynamic Queue were you end up with or against premades and you can't possibly know what they are thinking, how they play like, if they are communicating outside the game, etc.

You should play what you're good at but you should also play the champions that fit best with the team you have so you can win teamfights, take some pressure off of their shoulders and work together.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Its mostly correct, although you should pay attention to your good teammates, because two people who don't suck can carry the game way harder than a rambo.

Pretty much have to ignore teammate's calls, unless you would make them yourself in low elo. Although a jungler calling for dragon when people are dead might be a good idea. You should also kind of ignore their build unless they ask and just be glad that there's a sure way to tell they are bad at the game in a very clear manner. No one in bronze is going to take your advice in a simple call for building MR vs AP or armor vs AD laner.

This is especially true for jungling as the top laner calling for ganks might suck ass or is just calling ganks for kills. Not paying attention to another lane with an early gank could cost the game more than if you just ignored the prick for a few minutes. Likewise ignoring the obvious early kills. This is especially true when people are copying the farm jungler meta so the laners assume no ganks until the jungler is 6 and push hard.

It would be optimal to play something that's strong and you like over something just freelo because you remove the expectations of a free win and eventually you will become stronk at that champion. Although simple champion counters to things that tilt you would also be a good idea to pick up.

Drehirth2 votes

I'd honestly be more concerned with the master yi.... who did the least amount of damage in a 47 fucking min game...like WOW

EugeneSims1 votes

He tried to split-push, at least. Did tell him to get tanky and he was building towards it but it was kind of late for that.

ilt2 votes

i hate it when people tell me what to do. If my teammates scream at me to build AD for example, I go AP. Fk em.

EugeneSims1 votes

That says a lot about your character and your ability to work with a team, lol.

magic pole1 votes

there is no i in TEAM.

THEREFORE i will KEEP my pride.

too bad for your needs

EugeneSims1 votes

Seems about right. Amazing mentality in this elo, let me tell you.

alasarcher1 votes

Well dunno what u talking about Cho had

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EugeneSims1 votes

Had you read my post then you would have seen that I clearly said:

"He ended up selling them when we had no Nexus turrets, as if that's going to do anything when they are already hitting our Nexus to win the game."

You know...? The part where I said he only built the correct items right at the end of the game when it was irrelevant to even have them because we were already going to lose in two minutes? Yeah.

swordartonlineyi1 votes

Bronze/silver logic: but then how I am supposed to play yasuo jungle?? You all noobs I play yasuo jungle!!!

EugeneSims1 votes

I've seen Yasuo jungle and I don't know who comes up with those ideas, lmao.

swordartonlineyi1 votes

People that natural selection should be getting around to sooner or later.

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