Reasonable Dodges....

BlaK Pl4guE·Mar 23, 2016·1 votes·505 views

Alright, i'm sure as well all know ranked que's can be at times considerably annoying. I say this after having just now que'd up twice in a row in ranked only to receive some random support that decides to make a troll pick. Now i think their needs to be some kind of system implemented where if i dodge because my team mate picks Zed support in a ranked que, than i'm not penalized and they are as Zed is clearly a troll pick as support. Ultimately i dodge and lose LP for doing so only so that this Zed can continue to troll the next team and the next, without ever having to fear of any kind of consequence whatsoever. Anything from anyone would be great honestly. Even if i could take a screenshot and show clearly look this is why i dodged a ranked que because of a team mate refusing to pick a champion that in anyway co-exists with their role.

11 Comments

ElphrihaimMar 23, 20163 votes

playing an off-meta champ

playing a "Troll pick"

is not inherently actually bad

therefore no

No flash no lifeMar 23, 20163 votes

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playing an off-meta champ

playing a "Troll pick"

is not inherently actually bad

and even if it's bad players are still free to play however they want unless they're trying to make the team lose on purpose. If not doing what is best for the team or bringing out utmost potential of the team is considered trolling, then I guess grabbing ap on malphite automatically labels the player as a troll.

BlaK Pl4guEMar 23, 20161 votes

You're not seeing the point, that's like taking Soraka into the Jungle, sure it can be done but i'm not saying it can't i'm saying that Zed provides absolutely nothing that a support should provide therefore making it a troll pick.

62227164DEL1Mar 23, 20161 votes

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LauchmelderMar 23, 20161 votes

I think you forgot a Kappa there

ElphrihaimMar 23, 20161 votes

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it's time for an "off-meta" ban option

it NEVER is time for such a thing.

ElphrihaimMar 23, 20163 votes

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You're kidding right? Zed support not inherently bad?

Yeah?

I mean, sure. Zed has no particular synergy as a support.

But Zed is safe with good poke. This means that he can help zone off the enemy ADC from CS.

Zed also has high damage and death is the strongest CC in the game.

Additionally, he's melee, so he can grab Relic Shield if you desperately want heals but why would you want heals when you can get more damage instead?

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You're not seeing the point, that's like taking Soraka into the Jungle, sure it can be done but i'm not saying it can't i'm saying that Zed provides absolutely nothing that a support should provide therefore making it a troll pick.

You say:

It can be done, not saying that it can't be.

Then you say:

Zed provides absolutely nothing that a support should, therefore making it a troll pick.

And look at what I said in my first post--

Specifically

"[it] is not inherently actually bad [to play a troll pick]".

I mean... I SAID EXPLICITLY

YES. ZED SUPPORT IS A TROLL PICK. NOBODY'S SAYING IT ISN'T, BECAUSE IT IS.

NO, ZED SUPPORT IS NOT "a team mate refusing to pick a champion that in anyway co-exists with their role."

I MEAN FIRST OF ALL THAT SENTENCE IS BAD.

Second, and my actual point:

Zed support CAN WORK. It is perfectly service-able because death is the strongest CC and strong poke is a desirable trait for supports. These are things that Zed is good at.

Finally:

Just because it is a troll pick does not mean your teammate intends to troll YOU.

Frequently, troll picks mess up the ENEMY team a lot too-- and often times in my experience moreso than the team with the troll pick.

If they play ANYBODY as support and troll--even somebody who is a champion that "co-exists with their role [assigned by matchmaking]"-- they're a troll.

But a troll pick does not mean that somebody is going to ruin your game intentionally. They just want to play that character in that role.

.>.

BlaK Pl4guEMar 23, 20162 votes

You're kidding right? Zed support not inherently bad?

BlaK Pl4guEMar 23, 20161 votes

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No flash no lifeMar 23, 20163 votes

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You're not seeing the point, that's like taking Soraka into the Jungle, sure it can be done but i'm not saying it can't i'm saying that Zed provides absolutely nothing that a support should provide therefore making it a troll pick.

Yes, zed picks up support role, yet he has nothing to provide nor does he have any intention to act as a support. As bad as it may get, the player reserves the freedom to play that way and there's no rule saying he absolutely has to play in a certain way according to the role the player is assigned as. Even if they're obligned to follow the role they picked, there's still no rule saying they have to perform that role well enough to a certain degree. Do you know how many supports out there don't know what ward is? And how many supports value playmaking over peeling and protecting adc? They're bad team players, and perhaps bad players at it, but being poorly skilled isn't against anything or else everyone below platinum tier ought to be banned, because in the eyes of challenger players they all look equally bad.