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Can you report someone for spoiling GoT episodes?

Pácolt Kecske··5 votes·6,294 views

Is it a legit reason to report someone or it's not punishable? (Some guy spoiled S08E04 in all chat)

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Hotarµ6 votes

There have been a lot of mixed answers over the past few months/years and unfortunately I couldn't find Riot's official stance on the matter.

On one hand, it doesn't directly impact your gameplay experience and it isn't exactly personal harassment akin to toxicity. On the other hand, in most cases the person is doing it just to be a jerk and that's not cool.

I fall somewhere in the middle, I'm not entirely sure how I feel on it, but if I had to make a decision I think it probably wouldn't/shouldn't be punishable. When popular media comes out (such as books, TV shows, movies, etc.) you always run the risk of people talking about it, and regardless of their intention it's just something you have to accept when you use social media or popular gaming platforms such as League.

I know some people have been punished for this recently with Endgame but I don't think that's an on-going thing, someone probably just sent in a support ticket and a Rioter chose to place a small ban on the player.


Here's a comment from a user on Reddit that I really jive with, the title of the post was "Is spoiling Avengers in-game a reportable offense?"

Riot can't start banning people over this, because then they have to answer way too many hard questions.

What media should spoilers be bannable for? All films/books/shows? The biggest ones right now? What counts as the "biggest".

How long before talking about possible spoilers stops being bannable for? 3 days? A week? A month? More?

This is why the onus of avoiding spoilers needs to be on the person who's...avoiding them, not on everyone else, nor Riot to enforce it. Not spoiling things is an honour rule, not a real rule.

This one too:

No it's not and it shouldn't be at all.

Ye it sucks to meet unsocial ppl who take fun in spoiling stuff espcially from such hyped movies/series.

But the best thing you can do is either not go online at all or just mute ppl If you afraid of something happening like this.

DJColdCutz1 votes

Are punishments based on rito whims then, if rito can decide to only punish some of the people who spoil certain things? They don't punish all spoilers, and they didn't even punish all end game spoilers.

Hotarµ2 votes

The reason I said it's not a "continuous thing" is because (I assume) the player in that game was doing it with the sole intent to annoy and aggravate people.

A support agent looked at the match and determined they were just trying to dodge a punishment, and in that case I think it's fine as it was only a temp ban, so it was just a slap on the wrist to say "Hey, don't be a jerk."

But no, all punishments aren't based on Rito's whims.

rujitra3 votes

A good analogy I like is this: Do you expect police to come arrest people discussing a movie that you haven’t seen when you’re on the street/on the subway/in a restaurant/whatever? The answer is obviously no - it’s a public place and they have the right to discuss that subject there.

Karunamon3 votes

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A good analogy I like is this: Do you expect police to come arrest people discussing a movie that you haven’t seen when you’re on the street/on the subway/in a restaurant/whatever? The answer is obviously no - it’s a public place and they have the right to discuss that subject there.

No, that is not a good analogy. Riot bans for things that don't rise to the level of criminality.

rujitra2 votes

You completely missed the point of the analogy. The analogy is that you cannot control what happens in a public place, thus nobody should expect Riot to police the subjects talked about.

Policing being a jerk is normal and expected. Policing someone's ability to talk about a subject in a public place? Not so much.

ßåd4 votes

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You completely missed the point of the analogy. The analogy is that you cannot control what happens in a public place, thus nobody should expect Riot to police the subjects talked about.

Policing being a jerk is normal and expected. Policing someone's ability to talk about a subject in a public place? Not so much.

Except they arent discussing shit, they are doing it to be a twat, so again, that analogy is booty cheeks. Spoiling movies/episodes of stuff should result in a mute. its not game discussion. they arent talking about their gameplay, u get banned for everything else u say that isnt gameplay related, why not that too?

PresBushDid7111 votes

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Except they arent discussing shit, they are doing it to be a twat, so again, that analogy is booty cheeks. Spoiling movies/episodes of stuff should result in a mute. its not game discussion. they arent talking about their gameplay, u get banned for everything else u say that isnt gameplay related, why not that too?

Not true, you can talk about whatever you wish as long as you don't spam and aren't toxic.

ßåd2 votes

Not true. i've been muted/banned for simply talking period. on several occasions, no toxicty involved.

Hotarµ4 votes

Exactly.

Don't get me wrong, I think the person spoiling it is still a jerk, but it's just kind of ridiculous to punish someone for something as trivial as spoiling a movie. That's my 2cents, anyway.

Karunamon5 votes

Many of us would think it's just kind of ridiculous to punish someone for something as trivial as quoting the scoreboard, and yet here we are.

Weiss Guertena1 votes

It certainly has a higher impact than your average trashtalking tho. Someone in an online game calling you an idiot and describing sexual acts with your mother? Everyday occurrence, most of us have learned to shrug it off by now. Someone spoiling and therefore sucking the fun out of something you were really looking forward to? Way more likely to get a person tilted.

We are already punishing people for being jerks in chat to each other. And this is one kind of being a jerk that actually has impact outside of the game, so going by current rules about what gets punished and what doesn't, it should get punished.

Paintchíp1 votes

That is a horrid analogy. If someone said things that they say in game to me and I told them to STFU, I wouldn't get arrested, yet RIOT perma bans me for getting annoyed with 15-20 games streaks of assholes.

Ph03n1xb1rd4 votes

Perfect analogy, just when the police comes to arrest me, when i yell "KYS" on the streets.

Oh w8, they are not.... Maybe not soo good analogy O.o

Voldymort1 votes

see my above reply

Voldymort1 votes

my philosophy when i don't know something is to wait for livechat to go up and ask there

i did this a week ago when there were one too many posts about avengers spoilers and the rioter said that doing that in the game generates a 3 day ban that is on a separate system than the ifs but he wouldn't go into detail on what happens if you keep doing it even after the ban.

the exchange

i suggest asking rioters that actually know how their system works instead of googling random articles that may or may not be accurate or arguing semantics and personal definitions of right and wrong, like you and rujitra seem to be doing in this comment section

https://i.imgur.com/9XHl18c.gif

Hotarµ2 votes

my philosophy when i don't know something is to wait for livechat to go up and ask there

The reason I didn't supply an answer from support is because it's hard to determine if that's actually Riot's official stance on the matter or not. Riot support is (ironically) not entirely composed of Rioters, sometimes the agents who answer you are going off of their best judgment.

I've been told many different things by RS, some true and some very false. That's my personal gripe with RS, which is why I don't like to rely on their answers all the time, although I probably could do it more.

I'm not "arguing personal definitions of right and wrong", I inferred what might be the case, that the IFS does not punish consistently for spoilers and (it's safe to assume) it requires a manual review and/or filing a support ticket. Sounds kind of similar to what you just told me, doesn't it?

the rioter said that doing that in the game generates a 3 day ban that is on a separate system than the ifs

It's not "arguing semantics" to want an official statement on a matter, and I also didn't "Google random articles" as I checked through Riot's Twitter, Riot's support FAQ, a few of Riot's employees' Twitter accounts, some Boards posts, and some popular Reddit posts looking for a Red's response.

woodvsmurph3 votes
  1. Books have been out for some time now... try reading?
  2. Can't you mute chat? (I actually don't know if you can mute non-allies)
insomniacjezz5 votes

The show has passed the story told In the books for the last few seasons now. Try watching the show?

Kazekiba1 votes

I mean yeah. SoIaF and the Infinity War comics are decades old ... The storylines are already written so its more of a spoiler to say Snape is responsible for the death of Dumbledore in Deathly Hallows.

But no one cares about that its common knowledge.

World peace plz3 votes

And how do you know what that person says is true ? For what we all know he could be lying to piss people off. So again how do you know for sure that what that person said were actually spoilers ? And no as far as ik you cant report sombody for spoiling something although its a dick move to do so.

Pácolt Kecske1 votes

I've seen the new episode and it was a real spoiler, but some people from the enemy haven't seen it yet.

Ph03n1xb1rd2 votes

So what, if they didn't see the episode, they do not know if it is real or not.....

PresBushDid7112 votes

I wish I knew or cared anything about GoT, I would start each game with the spoilers.

Silent Gravity2 votes

Riot gave 3 day bans for people who spoiled the Avengers movie, so report them if you feel like it. They could earn a punishment.

World peace plz1 votes

And who told the enemy that it was a real spoiler ? Cause like i said for all they know that person could be lying and the only reason the enemy could know its a spoiler is when sombody who saw the episode confirms it cause up till that point the enemy or sombody dint saw it could not know its a real spoiler. And i mean if the episode is out for like lets say a week by than almost everybody should have see it at least who follow the show.

GatekeeperTDS1 votes

Riot is not going to start banning players (customers) for discussing pop culture. I recommend staying off the Internet if this is a serious issue for you.

P.S. It wasn't Dumbledore, it was the one-armed man.

PresBushDid7111 votes

Spoiler: Maverick killed Goose.

DefiniteLesbian1 votes

someones league name ruined endgame for me fbm

The Highest Noon1 votes

no

goodiesohhi1 votes

Wait they don't take the time to ban people who literally int, how are they gonna take the time to do this? There's no spoiler-detection bot.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

There are spoilers everywhere. If people care about their shows THAT much, they need to just not get on the internet...

Inkling Commando1 votes

if spoiling Endgame is not reportable then i really doubt spoiling GoT is reportable.

ocha boi1 votes

this might not be what you wanna hear but I avoid any and all forms of social media/communication until i'm caught up on something i really don't want spoiled for me to avoid this type of situation.

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