Dear Riot Games Please fix your punishment and ranking system.

GeneralBrad··1 votes·768 views

Dear riot,

I am writing this as a player of over 3 years. You need to fix your player punishment and ranking systems.

I will address Punishment first. I just dodged a ranked game in lobby, I did so because the "support" pre-picked Ezreal support, as the adc I was concerned and said "pls don't pick Ez support" to which he responded "get off my dick" I immediately dodged. I was only willing to dodge because the previous game a player singled me out in lobby, confusing me for someone he had played with earlier in the day, and called me a "feeder" and proceeded to be toxic toward me all game and in post game chat as well, after that experience I did not have the patience to deal with a toxic Ezreal "support". I have been very patient with this kind of player for a very long time, believing inside that they will get the punishment they deserve if I report them, but therein lies the problem. You see, I run into a player like that in almost every game, often two per game, if that kind of behavior was being punished as it should than there would be far fewer players who behaved that way.

It is time for Moderators among the player base with the power to enforce immediate bans.

These moderators could be given the power to enforce immediate bans ranging from 20min-until case review. I would suggest perhaps players with positive player banners as starting point for who these mods would be, at least until more fleshed out criteria could be fleshed out. The Mods need to make up about 5% of the player base to get adequate game coverage and improve player behavior/weed out players who don't deserve to have an account.

The second thing that needs addressed is the ranking system.

While I understand the idea that winning games means you deserve to rank up, having that as the criteria for gaining/losing LP is out dated as the game has developed into a team game that is harder/not able to be solo carried. What I would propose is that a system much like the point system in Fantasy LCS be used to award LP on a personal performance basis.

With this system as I would propose, a player would not be able to lose LP in a win or gain LP in a loss. What would be possible, however, is that a player on a losing team who goes 12/1/10 and takes 3 towers in a loss would not lose as many or any LP, and the player who goes 0/16/2 on a winning team would not gain any LP. This would allow players to rank up based on their skill, instead of based on the luck of matchmaking.

Riot, please, for the sake of your loyal players, rework these systems so that player experience can be positive and we can continue to enjoy the game in time to come.

Sincerely,

A frustrated player.

15 Comments

FrankerX3 votes
  1. saying that "if trolling in champ select would ban ppl then there wouldnt be so many champ select trolls" you see ppl get permabanned daily now for calling out reports. guess what i still see a player in like every 2nd ranked game who goes "report xy pls" and if you tell them its against the rules they say they dont care

  2. we dont have "mods" in our player base, we have board mods thats about it.

  3. your idea about ranked systems is just total shit sorry but its just bad. everyone would killsteal (because for the score) there would be no tanks who engage (because they die and dont deal dmg so no kills again) there would be no supports because they dont deal dmg and dont go tanky. everyone would rush teleport and just tp to a lane to finish of a tower because if you lose who cares? you took 6 towers by teleporting and going quinn with item 1326 noone is faster than you in lane to "steal the tower"

and last but not least: your idea about the ranked system got suggested so many times im on the boards since season 3 (at least on euw boards) and you can trust me you see this same idea at least 1 time a month. also going pack to my first point. as i said this idea got suggested a lot and rejected all the time, ppl still post it! same goes for trolling. even if trolls get banned other ppl will still troll. ppl know there is the danger but they dont care. or they dont know it because they are stupid lol (happens enough on this board "wow didnt know telling someone he is a retard is against the rules thanks for no warning rito")

GeneralBrad1 votes
  1. your idea about ranked systems is just total shit sorry but its just bad. everyone would killsteal (because for the score) there would be no tanks who engage (because they die and dont deal dmg so no kills again) there would be no supports because they dont deal dmg and dont go tanky. everyone would rush teleport and just tp to a lane to finish of a tower because if you lose who cares? you took 6 towers by teleporting and going quinn with item 1326 noone is faster than you in lane to "steal the tower"

This is pretty much how people play already, at least if you got credit for playing better by quantifiable guidelines it would make more sense. the toxic play patterns would be largely limited by not being able to gain points in losses. Also, if everyone is trying to Kill steal each other then at least they are grouped. or if they are trying to get the turret kill then they are pushing objectives.

FrankerX1 votes

there is a reason we have bronze silver gold plat dia master and challenger. ppl who dont group and dont push objectives together either dont want to, or dont know about that. i played in bronze for a few months and ppl just recall when they ace'd the enemy instead of pushing. you want these players in diamond? if they dont learn well too bad but i dont think we need a system that forces you to learn the game. i know ppl who enjoy bronze. they know they are bad but they still have fun in the game. if the system forces you to read guides and watch videos to improve i bet a ton of players would lose the fun part.

GeneralBrad1 votes

If they can't gain points in a loss or lose points in a victory, how would bad players end up in hi elo? you would still have to know how to win in order to clime.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

People fake their picks all the time. More likely than not that person wasn't going to pick Ezreal. Even if they do get into game with it, off-meta picks are not a punishable offense. What is punishable is if they are intentionally throwing or not making an effort, but you can't punish them before then; it would be unethical to do so. If someone is actually trolling like this in Ranked, the penalties are severe, so just continue to report them.

As for giving players the ability to decide a punishment, I have some insight on that; Riot is not going to do it. The new Tribunal will be used to make the system more accurate, but Riot and their automated systems will always be the one deciding what kind of punishment to give.

And on giving LP bonuses for in-game performance, it's a really bad idea imo. If you get more LP for a better score you are going to be focused on upping that score instead of actually winning the game; High score =/= useful. Good scores may indicate your real impact on the match in the ultimate goal to kill the Nexus, but it's only an indicator and nothing more. You can feed 0/10/2 and still be the guy that distracted the enemy and caused them to lose, or backdoored for the win. Only the Nexus kill matters.

FrankerX1 votes

deep terror nami does "not making an effort" also mean when the whole team has around 30k dmg (besides support) but the mid lane xerath has only 8k dmg done against champs? because he never helped or when we grouped he didnt use his skills? OR BECAUSE HE WENT ATTACKSPEED??? i know off meta build is not against the rules but you can still use your qwer to poke?

GeneralBrad1 votes

The pick isn't what I am suggesting punishing, it's that I asked him to "pls don't Ez support." and he was immediately toxic in response.

they should put Mods in place, most other games with a player base as large as league have Mods.

kda obviously couldn't be the only score taken into account, and if people were focusing on trying to get in on taking as many objectives as possible. there are enough stats to make a reliable system of determining how positive/negative of an impact players have on the outcome of the game.

pirozhok431 votes

AP Ezreal support was played on a popular streamers stream about 2 days ago....

and it worked in challenger, so "it works everywhere else"

theres a reason you dont get to pick your teammates picks.

GeneralBrad1 votes

right, but you're not reading what I'm saying, I politly asked him not to do it and got cussed out as a reply, that's the behavior that needs punished.

FrankerX1 votes

you can only report after the game. so play the game report him and he gets punished

GeneralBrad1 votes

I know, but the number of people who are like that means there is not appropriate action being taken.

FrankerX1 votes

well there is if you watch here on the boards enough ppl are permabanned. but there are way too many ppl playing so this will happen all the time. also it takes a few "strikes" to get a bann :/

GeneralBrad1 votes

Which is Why moderators who could insta ban for short periods and rush case reviews would be good.

FrankerX3 votes

you could hire all the refugees that came to germany and still wouldnt have enough mods to check every game where a report happens during champ select.

alasarcher1 votes

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Which is Why moderators who could insta ban for short periods and rush case reviews would be good.

They wont insta ban someone for saying "get off my dick"... Guy basically told u "dont tell me what to pick/not to pick" in a bit rude way

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