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This is going to be a long, long post.

91Harambe19··2 votes·1,243 views

I love it. Marc Merrill caught getting ELO Boosting. Are you gonna permaban him? Also on top of this, on Richard Lewis' video about Monte not even being invited to cast worlds. He notes how you can be permanently just for criticizing people now a days, something I have been saying for years, and also how you can not buy level 30 accounts, which is just absurd, the game has been out for 10 years. Barely any new players are coming in. I leveled a smurf up and ran into a collective total of ZERO new players in all of my games. Things need to be fixed, we can't just keep saying "No they know what they are doing." or "No toxicity is going down they are working on it." No, it isn't. Toxicity is on the rise. Season 5 and 6 (mostly 6) the most toxic I have seen any game ever be. Look at Tyler1. Back in any season before 5 he would have been shamed by the community every one would have hated him. I promise you that. Things need to be changed, we need re vamp of the system, we can't just take peoples accounts for what they say, if them saying something is the problem then stop them from being able to chat. People's accounts should only be taken for things like ELO boosting, Intentionally feeding, Intentionally Trolling or Scripting. Here are the things I am going to list as ideas and changes that must be made it keep this game going.

  1. If someone is truly being toxic (i.e flaming, personal attacks) then they should be chat banned from 10/25/50 games, note not restricted, BANNED. Meaning NO messages get through. At all.
  2. Accounts can NOT be permanently banned for being toxic. Even if they are truly being toxic they shouldn't be prevented from playing the game, they aren't doing things to intentionally ruin games, most of the time people who are toxic, have anger issues, and get mad when they are losing because a lot of toxic players also tend to be playing to win. (Tyler1 still should have his ban because he was inting that is not in dispute.)
  3. Criticizing people is not being toxic. Telling someone what they did wrong is not toxic. People who cry toxic over someone saying "You did that wrong." or "You messed up this or that." are just childish.
  4. Any accounts previously banned for toxic behavior should have their bans taken away, but be put on permanent chat ban. So their accounts are given back, but they can no longer chat. The problem has been solved.

Okay so now lets talk about reform. A way to take toxic people from being well toxic, to being not so toxic or even sweet little angels. I do not have many ideas out side of but my biggest idea is if said toxic person goes a while like a good while, like months in the extent of 3-6, without being reported or banned they should get some form of reward, like a Mystery gift, or an IP boost, or like Flat RP or something along those lines.

These are just my ideas, I am sorry this was a long post but anyone who actually cares about this game and it's community will read it. I probably will get a ton of hate for that, and such I probably won't be replying to anything, but I don't care if this gets hate. I just hope so Red sees and reads this and something gets done. If you read up til this point, thank you. If you agree, thank you, if you don't, thank you. Bye bye. :)

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Karunamon3 votes

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Just reread this post and it sounds a lot more condescending than the tone it's intended in.

But you've suggested literally nothing here that hasn't been proposed and rejected a million times before and that are posted on these boards on the regular.

Barely any new players are coming in.

[[Citation needed]]. Your smurf (by the way, you literally contributed to the problem you just complained about) is one account among literal millions, and your play experience is not representative.

we can't just take peoples accounts for what they say

We can and do take peoples accounts for what they say. For a real life demonstration, mouth off in front of a judge or a cop. One of the rules everyone agrees to here is to behave with civility and honor in the Rift, and if someone can't manage that one thing (it's shockingly easy), they don't need to be here anymore.

Accounts can NOT be permanently banned for being toxic. Even if they are truly being toxic they shouldn't be prevented from playing the game

Why not? What's wrong with the community saying either act like a civil human being or get lost?

It's not like there's a shortage of MOBAs out there. Someone who wants the "banter" and the "trash talking" should have no issues going to play DOTA where calling people сука блять is acceptable.

Nobody has a right to play LoL.

most of the time people who are toxic, have anger issues,

Then those people should check into anger management classes, not MOBAs. Nobody has the right to inflict their crappy mood, potty mouth, and lack of self control on a captive audience of 9 other people.

91Harambe191 votes

Your post IS extremely condescending, intended or not. Your words are what make it so condescending, your idea of "mouthing off in front of a cop" is stupid quite frankly. You can't be arrested for saying something to a cop. Unless that cop is corrupt they won't do anything about it, because they can't. No one should be punished so extremely for what they say, that would be like me mouthing off to a cop and them giving me a life sentence, also, these ideas have been rejected, but never, EVER tried. They haven't tried to take chat away, on restrict it, it's quite frankly the most frustrating thing to see people being banned and their accounts taken away because they say something "toxic" but I get ints or trolls in half of my ranked games, I report them and nothing happens, why is what people say on more of a focus instead of what people do. You sent a post at me that was extremely condescending, that offered no ideas to help fix the problem and was literally just being completely negative. I don't get how you can just sit here and say the system isn't broken and wrong. It's unbelievable honestly.

Karunamon1 votes

You sent a post at me that was extremely condescending, that offered no ideas to help fix the problem

If I had a penny for every person who floated the "CIVILITY IS DUMB" argument or a variation thereof (prison island/permamute), something that Riot has flat out said that they were never going to do and detailed why, I'd have enough RP to unlock every skin for every champion.

Your ideas aren't about "fixing the problem", they are about allowing people to do things that are currently banworthy. That doesn't "fix" anything, it just makes obnoxious behavior legal.

Again, I highly recommend that if the idea of disallowing shit talking bothers you so badly, to go play one of the other infinite variety of games where it's allowed.

I don't get how you can just sit here and say the system isn't broken and wrong.

I don't think I ever said that. The system isn't perfect - it takes far too many instances of bad behavior before the summoner 11 falls now. I'd like to see that happen much sooner.

91Harambe191 votes

If you think it needs to happen sooner you are quite retarded. Their whole idea of this system is to reform, and you want to ban them sooner, how the fuck are they going to reform? God you are so stupid. If you honestly think it's okay to ban someones account permanently for what they say in game, then you are just not thinking for yourself or you are some stupid ass SJW.

Karunamon1 votes

I didn't say ban, I said summoner 11 - Riot doesn't start laying down any punishments, or even a tap on the shoulder "hey, cut it out" until you've established a "pattern", which takes an indeterminate amount of time and games.

3 games? That's 2 too many. People need to be told more quickly when they're behaving unacceptably or else they'll just keep doing it.

then you are just not thinking for yourself or you are some stupid ass SJW.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

And you kiss your mother with that mouth?

91Harambe191 votes

So one mistake one slip up and they should be restricted or banned? How is anyone going to reform that way? I don't think you really understand anything about a ban system or a reform system.

vampirekid131 votes

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Your post IS extremely condescending, intended or not. Your words are what make it so condescending, your idea of "mouthing off in front of a cop" is stupid quite frankly. You can't be arrested for saying something to a cop. Unless that cop is corrupt they won't do anything about it, because they can't. No one should be punished so extremely for what they say, that would be like me mouthing off to a cop and them giving me a life sentence, also, these ideas have been rejected, but never, EVER tried. They haven't tried to take chat away, on restrict it, it's quite frankly the most frustrating thing to see people being banned and their accounts taken away because they say something "toxic" but I get ints or trolls in half of my ranked games, I report them and nothing happens, why is what people say on more of a focus instead of what people do. You sent a post at me that was extremely condescending, that offered no ideas to help fix the problem and was literally just being completely negative. I don't get how you can just sit here and say the system isn't broken and wrong. It's unbelievable honestly.

Actually you can be arrested for disrespecting a police officer or civil servants. That's an actual law.

91Harambe191 votes

Not in America. I have never seen that once.

Slythion1 votes

...link to Marc Merrill being boosted?

Itankyou1 votes

tldr

91Harambe191 votes

This was a stupid comment, the title literally said long post.

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