Why does Riot repeatedly place players I've reported in the next few games?

Hazoozu·Apr 5, 2016·14 votes·1,106 views

This happens often. When you report someone for being toxic, why are they in the next game, and the next one? Even multiple reportings of said "person" won't stop the injustice. I've had players troll and fed on purpose because they were in the next game and recognized me. Where's my 1 free dodge so I can get out without it costing me?

Why can't this be fixed? It's extremely toxic to see the same troll over and over and over again.

17 Comments

EvilDustManApr 5, 20163 votes

Don't queue back immediately.

RandomoniumApr 5, 20162 votes

The system is designed to match you up with people of similar MMRs and to minimize wait time. The troll has a similar MMR to you because he's already gotten matched up with you and since you both queued up at the same time (since your game ended at the same time), there is a much higher chance that the system will match you with him. THIS IS HOW MATCHMAKING WORKS IN EVERY SINGLE COMPETITIVE VIDEO GAME, NOT JUST LEAGUE.

I have never had this problem. You know why? Because win or lose I take a 3-5 minute break between games and THINK about how that game went, what I did well, and what I need to focus on next game to improve. Just doing that will pretty much guarantee that you will never get matched up with the same troll every again.

HazoozuApr 6, 20162 votes

I know why we were paired in the first place. My question is why pair me with someone I already reported, multiple times even? It's not like there's a shortage of players in this game and in my elo. Funny thing is that I did wait 5 minutes or so after the second match because I was adjusting ruins, and I ended in a 3rd game with him again. Also, I forgot to mention this in the original post but he tried to friend me over and over again after the matches, presumably to talk shit. It's just a cancerous, and should be avoidable while playing. There should be some sort of measure in place to prevent certain players being paired, particularly in the case of multiple reports of an individual.

RandomoniumApr 6, 20161 votes

Riot will never implement a system where you won't get paired with people you report because then people would false report "bad" players to avoid playing with them again. At lower rankings this isn't that abusable but at higher rankings where the player pool is much smaller it could be easily abused.

If you waited 5 minutes and then queued up and got the same guy then you won the freaking shit lottery. Like you said, there's tons of people playing so the chances of you getting matched up with the same person if you don't queue at the same time is near zero.

I didn't see any recent games with repeat summoners in you match history. Was this ranked or normals? How long ago did it happen? How many times has it happened in the past month?

GaleWinUnleashedApr 6, 20161 votes

Because while there may be many available players at your ELO, that's not the case in extremely high-level play. For this reason matchmaking is not adjusted in the slightest by your previous interactions with a particular player. If it was, some players would take advantage of it by reporting players they didn't want to play with/against again, and NOT just for toxicity reasons.

You can either deal with it (obviously you'd prefer not to), wait for a while after games (longer than you've already tried?), or switch queues for a little while (ARAM is nice for casual games to wind down and de-stress).

66191767DEL1Apr 6, 20161 votes

This is an esport. Why are they using matchmaking systems a normal multiplayer video game uses?

RandomoniumApr 6, 20161 votes

Yes, every esport uses the same matchmaking. I was a diamond level Starcraft 2 player and the matchmaking systems are pretty much identical.

All this stuff came from Starcraft. It was the original esport and really set the standard for all other games.

RIP AS 20072016Apr 5, 20161 votes

Because this would create a nightmare in high elo.

66191767DEL1Apr 6, 20161 votes

20 min q times? That's whats happening right now. Right now, the reporting system and terrible match making is the only thing keeping many potential high elo players stuck in the climb. They get placed with people that aren't going to help them climb which should be the ideal match making to provide the best games and best players for each elo.

dagurrApr 5, 20161 votes

dude that gives you more times to report be happy

Immortal FenixApr 5, 20162 votes

The same person reporting doesn't affect the system, I think, because Riot wanted to keep people from targeting individuals over and over in situations like this when they -aren't- doing anything wrong.

I could be wrong, but this is how I remember it working.

GaleWinUnleashedApr 6, 20161 votes

I know there's no difference between 1 report and 9 for a single game, but I'm not sure how repeat reports from the same player are treated, if they're tracked at all.

66191767DEL1Apr 6, 20161 votes

The title should be "Why does riot support toxicity?".

They should be putting people with reports in games with other people who have reports. If you're not the troll, you shouldn't be cursed with the troll.

GamblerOfLivesApr 6, 20161 votes

maybe, stop feeding and giving them reasons to shit talk you:)..how about that?

JakubrusApr 6, 20161 votes

Whenever I find myself with a particularly bad teammate, win or loss, I usually take a break for a few minutes after. Grab a snack, stretch, pet your dog/cat. I also do this when someone in champ select starts talking trash or threatening to troll, and someone else dodges. Cancel the queue, and sigh in relief because you dodged a bullet. I'm willing to give up a few minutes of game time to avoid 30+ min of frustration.

I have a story. I queued up for Mid/Bot and I got ADC. Two of my teammates are duo'd (jungle and support) and they start harassing me to switch with the jungler so he can "carry". I tell them jungle is my worst role and I'm fine playing ADC, thank you very much. So we get in game and the support says "good luck nerd" and leaves me to 1v2 bot lane and just roams around. I mute him and his duo partner and just play my best, and amazingly we win that game anyway.

I queue up again, and get ADC again with a whole new team. And who do I see on the enemy team on the loading screen? The same two guys! They now have their ADC/Sup duo dream. Good for them. Long story short, our team stomps them, their adc ragequits, and we push for the nexus. I was quiet all game, but before the end, I couldn't resist typing to their support in all chat: "Hey [summoner], remember me? :)))".

Feels good, man.

entitledplayerApr 6, 20161 votes

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This happens often. When you report someone for being toxic, why are they in the next game, and the next one? Even multiple reportings of said "person" won't stop the injustice. I've had players troll and fed on purpose because they were in the next game and recognized me. Where's my 1 free dodge so I can get out without it costing me?

Why can't this be fixed? It's extremely toxic to see the same troll over and over and over again.

Just because you report them for toxicity doesn't equal them being established with guilt and blame by you, thus meaning you get to exclude them from MM with you.

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A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

Also, if the player in question actually is guilty of flaming, trolling, and you're simply reporting them jumping to the name match, large chance you're in the same pool of players being paired for a match as them.

Take that as an opportunity to keep your mouth shut and watch how they behave based on prior actions;

They flame, you F12 and you report them without saying a word.
They don't, play the match normally, as you always should.

This is a two way street issue, because it takes two to tango -- More than likely if they chose to flame you, it's because you drew attention to yourself by arguing or engaging them in the bull they were doling.

Bottom line: sit yourself down and figure out why or how you're seeing this every game, and logically think about how to prevent it.

Because what are you really trying to accomplish: Justifying and proving that your opinion is above Riot's systems, or that you can't learn to get over your own problems, attitude, and salt, and learn to cooperate with something you don't agree with?

Because I'm skeptical that this went down how you claim.

Logs or Lolno.